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A, W, Tozer: Perhaps it take pure faith to prasie God for unrealizes blessings than for those we once enjoyed or those we now enjoy. Have a great weekend and a safe one Ladies and Gentelmen.

Whew, for a minute I was afraid I'd get my first "warning point(s)"... But then again, someone has to try and give thebes some competition, don't they?? Happy Thanksgiving...

Haha, no worries Rick. I was kind of kidding. Well, ok, they were offensive, but I wasn't upset. Boys will be boys.

Ben, the tubes and amps arrived, expertly packed and looking mighty fine! As always, it's a pleasure dealing with you.

I don't understand the topic subject, but happy Thanksgiving nonetheless, all! Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk

Nice gear there Chuck--bet it sounds real sweet in your pad tonight. Have a great Thanksgiving, and play it LOUD.

Happy Thanksgiving to all

While we're giving him a list of tools, lets add clamps (the more the merrier) they will also keep the boards from moving when installing pocket screws and a compressor with a crown stapler/finish nailer is something you'll never regret having and while you're making a list a small impact driver will cause you to forget you have a drill for driving screws. Heck, if you're going to make a list, might as well make it a long one; table saw, palm, orbital and belt sander, hvlp turbine sprayer, drill press, dolly's, HD ball bearing lazy susan support, respirator, a big work shop......................................................... it's a really deep rabbit hole my friend so either jump in or just go around it. If you have any money left, then you might want to start buying Klipsch speakers, so you can have hi-fidelity in every room in the house and garage. I have a lot of those tools. Lots of clamps, couple of compressors, finish stapler, lots of nail and brad guns, Several impact drivers from small to large, table saw. I think I have a palm sander, I have several belt sanders, a random orbital sander, drill press, router, hand dolly's, I have the stuff to build a couple lazy susans and furniture dolly's, respirator. Electric and hand planers, drills with adjustable clutches 24 x 48' shop upstairs and down. Kinda short on money though. Maybe I should sell some of my receivers, that would sure make my wife happy. Taz Sounds like you're in business! You can build a sub easily with the tools you have. No need to sell anything. Kreg's and Jaspers are great, but not necessary. A brad gun glue and clamps can make joints quickly. A pencil and a string can mark a hole a jigsaw can cut for the driver, etc.

Happy Thanksgiving - here is a Macy's Thanksgiving day parade 'blast from the past'

Of course, Marily Monroe had made a few vintage Thanksgiving appearances.....

Happy Thanksgiving to all! Just think, we just got done with seeing slutty Halloween costumes in every bar at the end of October and now it won't be long before December and Christmas is upon us and we start to see the 'naughty elf' costumes and we witness the many 'poor choices' that will be made with co-workers during the various office holiday parties..... Given that many of us own 'vintage' speakers and 'vintage' audio gear, here is a little 'vintage sexy' look at the Thanksgiving holiday.

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Just me and momma wishing you guys a great day tomorrow.

Happy Thanksgiving to the group.....

I like a post filled with qualifiers. People who are still into jamming out need at least 100 wpc I had a great phone call with Bob the other day. We can usually make it a good a half hour before something like this happens (I will be paraphrasing). Bob: "You think we don't listen, but we do. We just do it right. The only way to know if there is any real difference between two things is to compare them against each other instantaneously." Dean: "That's the worst way to do it. The ear/brain mechanism needs time to process the information." Bob: "You can listen as long as you want before the switch is flipped." Dean: '"So, I have to "remember" what I just heard. Ever read Deneen's comments about that, it's on my website."' Bob: "I made it through a couple sentences. It was about all I could take." Dean: "Mark makes good points, they just can't be dismissed. People aren't imagining all of these differences. Placebo effect is powerful but it's not all powerful." Bob: "Any differences that are different enough to matter would be noticed right away. Really, any difference at all would be noticed." Dean: "Not with that method they won't. Subtle differences won't be detected, and those subtleties and nuances in the sound are important. They add up, and there is an accumulative effect that critical listeners can detect in music they've heard a thousand times. What may seem like small, insignificant things to you, are a pretty big deal to people that listen like I do." Bob: "You mean sitting in a chair, in the middle of the room - with your head in a vise? If I have to listen like that I don't think I'd be listening to music anymore." Dean: "I'm listening to the song, and everything in the song that makes it a song. That's my point, people listen differently, I don't listen like you do, and your little switch just detracts and distracts from my ability to notice things. Sometimes those differences are pretty obvious - but you say you can't hear any difference at all. Why is that? Bob: "I believe you believe you're hearing them, but they aren't there. My spectrum analyzer says they aren't there, and my ears say the same thing. Dean: "I don't think a handful of measurements can account for everything a person is capable of hearing - we're just not there yet." Bob: "Maybe, not sure." Dean: "I hear this stuff pretty easy in my room, but I'm pretty sure I'd flunk a DBT or ABX test." I always like to bring up the thread where Bob did the upgrade kit from Klipsch that turns a Heresy II into a Heresy III. After Bob normalized the levels, he told me on the phone that he didn't know what to say in the thread because he couldn't hear much of a difference. Daddy Dee and Tony Reed were invited over, and Daddy Dee said "there was no appreciable difference" between the two. Now, let's contrast that with my experience when I heard the comparison at Klipsch Headquarters. The two loudspeakers were set up in the front of the room. They were hooked up to some very nice top end Aragon equipment. Chairs were set up for the listeners - I think their might have been 30 or so. They let us listen to most of a song through the Heresy II, and then they switched over to the Heresy III. There were some low level gasps, and people were looking around the room, gauging reactions. At the end of the demo, most of the room broke out into applause. Why? Because there was "no appreciable difference"? On the contrary, the difference was pretty dramatic - at least to the 30 or so in that room. So, let's list the differences between the two set ups. 1) Room (noise floor and room acoustics). 2) Set up (stereo pair vs. mono) 3) Gear (high end SS vs. midlevel SS and laptop) 4) Listeners (music lovers vs. music lovers) Everyone is hearing fine, but something is responsible for people hearing so differently. Why am I convinced that if Bob, Tony, and Dee had been at that demo in Indy, they would have heard what everyone else heard. I'm sure Bob would object to me referring to his listening gear as "mid-level", but the Aragon stack was probably approaching $10K. At any rate, I don't think the gear explains the phenomena. I think it's a combination of #1 and #4. The environment we listen in influences the way we listen, and the way we listen influences what we hear or notice in the music. People aren't imaging these differences, they exist. But I don't think you're going to notice or care about those differences unless you have an environment tailored for critical listening. This also entails a type of listening that for the most part is dying, along with everything else related to the 2-channel listening experience.

Amy would be in trouble if I was 50 years younger but yes.......the girlfriend is a sweetheart to put up with me. Good point Rich_Guy

Amy gave me my first one. Think she is kinda sweet on me

^good call above. There are a couple different horns in the pro tweeters and several motor assemblies. The horn is differentiated between those with a single curve K76 and K79, and the later design with Tractrix horns the K762 and K792 (you can see the conical, exponential, and hyperbolic sections of the horn fairly clearly - the curve changes). As far as power handing, the motor assemblies (magnet structure) is larger in the K79 types, which is used in the KP362 and KI362 speaker. They ALL use the exact same diaphragm, which is phenolic, but some replacements are available in titanium. I like the originals, some prefer the titanium. For higher power handling, there is a black goo called ferrofluid, which lowers the very hf output but transfers heat from the voice coil to the magnet assembly. When disassembling pro speakers, try to keep that goo in the voice coil gap if you can, or if voice coil is disintegrated and you need to completely clean the gap prior to reassembly, you can either leave it out or obtain a small quantity to add back. Not necessary except in very high power handling situations though. Hope this makes sense.

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