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Thnx a lot guys I raised my center channel and WOW! I got that feeling like I just got a new speaker and in a sense I did. Although it took me hanging my TV on the wall and buying a componet rack just to have my center channel at ear level. Some may say that's too much work for placement of 1 speaker... I say do what makes you happy! And yes I'm happy I absolutely love my KG 4.2's - KG 3.5's - KG 2.2v

I have experimented quite a bit with matching subs to my LaScalas, and have personally found that the horn loaded subs sound best by a wide margin. I was never sure exactly why, but I was just reading through a very long thread where Lynn Olson mentioned something that gave me an epiphany. Here is the snippit: Lynn Olson - diyaudio thread top of page 3 pgph 7 I've been thinking quite a lot about dispersion characteristics - most horn-fans don't know it, but unless they've got an all-horn system, the dispersion is not in fact constant with frequency. The direct-radiation bass unit radiates over 360 degrees (omnidirectional), then gradually narrows down to 180 to 90 degrees (depending on crossover point), then hands off to a horn with the specified radiation pattern (typically 120 to 90 degrees), which then narrows further as the frequency increases (unless it's a constant-directivity horn, which have their own problems). The narrow sidelobes that appear in the polar-pattern curves also appear as ripples in the time-domain, frequency-domain, and impedance curves - this is a consequence of antenna theory, where errors in one domain must appear in the other domains as well. Lynn is one of those people who can explain things well. I am not going to try to expand on this, but I will say that it makes PERFECT sense. To my ears, a radiator sub is a mismatch. My brain is recognizing the errors in the time-domain and frequency domain, and even though I don't really get why, it just doesn't sound right. Thank you Lynn. I guess there is a lot our brains and ears do that we are really not cognitive of.

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Paul Klipsch himself told me that he considered the Heresy and the Cornwall to be of too high distortion as a center in a 2PH3 system. Even if the "mono in the middle" was operated a -6 db from the flanks, he felt that the distortion was high enough to muddle the low distortion of the Khorns. So after creating the LaScala, he created the Belles (named after his first wife, who died of lung cancer) as the matching center (aesthetically and distortion-wise). He also told me that after creating the K-500 horn for the Belle, the the K-400 was probably a little longer than it needed to be. So, your initial comment about him "getting it" is incorrect with respect to IM distortion. He also told me that he left the Heresy box empty because he wanted a pure capacitance on the woofer. What he did finally "get," is that the Heresy saved the company from financial ruins because Khorns were too big and too expensive. Heresy accounted for over 50% of the company gross sales. By 1985, even he was suprised that his company had grown so large to over $20 million in sales, later to be grown to 7.5X that figure by Fred Klipsch and Co.

Makes sense. Sounds like I'll be better off just holding onto it for my own pleasure.

Finally another one gets it.

Send me a PM. I am in your area and have K-horns and La Scalas.

Great. Remember that it was not too much work because you would have had to do this with any center. Enjoy what you have, no reason to move from the KG's. They are very good speakers.

Look into Paradigm and JL subs as well. A little pricey, but they make some serious subs.

Good, very good!

I agree. The lack of respect by that poster is getting out if hand.

Awsome! Congrats

I never forgot this one, this is the long version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHfB63ln1Ig

So true. The first 95% is pretty easy to do for the experienced audiophile, that last 5%, man, it's a heart breaker.

If you are up for DIY, there are also horn subs like the tuba subs, and the F-20. Truly wonderful subs for music and HT.

Hear, hear! Shakey

Don, while I respect your desire to hear what the recording engineer hears, I can't say that I agree with you. So many modern recordings sound like crap because the engineers have put in 10 db of boost at 10 kHz (as one example) that I personally find the sound awful (that thought is shared by many of the guys around here for whom I've had to provide filters to attenuate the highs so they can enjoy the music without the "ear bleed" effect that I've mentioned in other posts.) I don't know anyone who owns equipment with tone controls who doesn't crank the treble way down to make those recordings tolerable. How do you deal with such recordings? I recall a forum member stating a while back that he only buys good quality recordings. That approach is fine, but what about all of the great music out there which is recorded poorly? Anyway, sorry to digress from the original question posted. Maynard

Tube amps are not made 5,000 at a time on an assembly line. That pushes the cost up.