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Post something in the Garage Sale section saying you're looking for La Scalas. It may cause a hesitant seller to part with theirs. And yeah, this is the best forum.

You know that there is a mod for the RF7s that take away some of the brightness, right? Dean G does the mod.

Hi Matt, With my gear and rooms here, I found the KLF-30 to be more in-your-face and bright compared to the Forte II and Chorus II. If you think the Forte II blows away the RF-7, you should find a pair of Chorus IIs. For me those are the best for two channel....really bring me into the music. Should say I haven't owned La Scalas.

The KLF 30 is a great speaker, but it will have more of the RF series sound than the Heritage sound. INMHO nothing beats a 3 way Heritage. I have never heard a 2 way speaker that I thought enough about to want to own. However that is just my subjective opinion of course.

The 30's are great... really they are. Wonderful for rock etc. But they are not the heritage sound. If you are comparing the two, I would say they are closer to the 7's than the fortes...except three way, which helps. Fyi... I think 900 is asking a bit much imho.

KLF30's sound great. I'd take them over cornwalls and many others but that is me.

You like the Heritage sound, so.... Buy Cornwalls, or Chorus if you can't find the La Scalas. Or just hold out for the La Scalas. I'd take the RF7's over the KLF 30's any day of the week.

They aren't overpriced, I'm just underpaid...

“What is Active Bi-Amping/Tri-Amping?” Active bi-amping uses one amplifier for low frequencies and another for mid-to-high frequencies—per audio channel. Tri-amping adds one more amplifier for a 3-way system tweeter. This is done via the use of an active crossover unit which is inserted between the preamplifier and power amplifiers. “What are the advantages of active bi-amping/tri-amping?” It provides much greater driver control than a passive crossover/full-range-loaded amplifier configurations. It provides a better load for your amplifiers to drive, and an effective gain in each amplifier’s effective output. It will provide lower amplifier-originated intermodulation distortion (IMD). It provides much greater protection of your tweeter/midrange drivers under clipping/overload conditions. It provides the ability to use less expensive amplifier designs for each driver. It provides for time alignment of drivers within a single speaker (a “must have” capability) It provides for better crossover performance in both amplitude AND phase in the crossover region for smoother crossover performance, including more stable soundstage imaging vs. frequency. It provides stability of crossover performance relative to passive crossover drift during and immediately after under high-load speaker output conditions, i.e., it maintains electrical output linearity under heavy load conditions. It requires lower-quality wire/connectors than a similarly configured passive crossover/full-range amplifier configuration. It allows on-the-fly changes in crossover frequency, EQ and channel gain settings to support changes in your setup configuration, i.e., facilitating the fine-tuning use of tools like Room EQ Wizard [REW], replacing individual drivers, speaker position changes, and adding channels for playback (2.0, 5.1, 7.1, etc.). “What are the disadvantages of active bi-amping/tri-amping?” It requires two/three power amplifier channels per speaker (with associated wires/connectors). It requires an active crossover unit. “What is an ‘active crossover’?” An active crossover provides separation of frequencies of the incoming pre-amplifier output signals, breaking each upstream channel into two (bi-amping) or three (tri-amping) downstream channels: a woofer channel and mid-range/tweeter channel). It provides higher-quality equalization (“EQ”) capability for each channel. Digital crossovers typically provide for delay to allow for time alignment of the drivers within a single speaker. (This is a similar function to an AV Processor that time aligns speaker-to-speaker in a 5.1/7.1 array.) See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_crossover#Active “Do I need to disconnect my speakers’ passive crossovers from my drivers?" Yes. At least the woofer (or low frequency driver) must be disconnected from the passive crossover to permit bi-amping. If your speakers are 3-way (i.e., woofer, midrange, tweeter in each cabinet), then you may retain the passive crossover between the midrange and the tweeter if using bi-amping (…but for tri-amping, all drivers must be disconnected from the passive crossover networks) Can I use ‘passive bi-amping’?” Passive bi-amping does not bring the benefits of active bi-amping, only the disadvantages of extra cables and connectors. Generally, it is not worth the expense of the extra amplifier. In particular, passive bi-amping does not provide for delay adjustment or filter/EQ parameter flexibility. What active crossover brands/units should I use? Many manufacturers make DSP crossovers, including ElectroVoice (Dx38, DC-One), dBX (except the lowest priced DriveRack...which I don't recommend), Yamaha (SP2060), Ashly Protea, Behringer DCX2496 (...avoid this one, too...), Xilica (XP and XD series models), Lake, DEQX, etc. Prices go from $230(US) to many thousands of dollars. There are also lower-cost alternatives, such as miniDSP 2x4 HD and 4x10 HD (avoid the miniDSP "2x4" without the "HD" designation.) Price is generally commensurate with sonic performance. More recently, there are automotive DSP crossovers of lower overall quality and correspondingly low price. In general, I don't recommend these for horn-loaded loudspeakers. There are bundled units with power amplifiers, such as the FusionAmp from Hypex (class D amplifier), and various PA amplifiers from Crown and other companies. These tend to be hit-or-miss propositions. In general, these DSP amplifiers are noisy and/or lack sufficient amplifier fidelity that most home hi-fi enthusiasts tend to want/use. I would ask questions from users on this forum, and the exact type of loudspeakers they used them with (i.e., lower sensitivity vs. higher sensitivity) and the application domain (home hi-fi or commercial PA duty) before investing in these. Analog active crossovers are also available, but lack useful delay, EQ and effective limiting. I don't recommend them for horn-loaded loudspeakers since DSP crossovers of quality can be had for about the same price. Have I seen active crossovers used in configurations other than an active crossover box? Probably--the "powered subwoofer" channel found on most AV Receivers/Processors is a limited example of a for-purpose active crossover channel (i.e., mono bass channel). Usual features include gain control (at the integrated subwoofer/power amplifier unit), user selectable crossover frequencies, and sometimes GEQ/PEQ (graphical and parametric equalizer) filters built into the AVR/AVP. Delay adjustment for each speaker channel is usually included in the AVR processor functionality to correct for speaker distance room placement variances. Additionally, an "Audyssey"-like feature on some AVRs/AVPs features a built-in real-time analyzer (RTA) to help the user set up their speakers in a room environment. (16 Nov. 2010 edit) Can I use a 2-in, 4-out processor (like the EV Dx38) to Tri-amp my three-way speakers? Yes: if you disconnect two of the three speaker drivers from their passive crossovers, then connect the tweeter and (usually) midrange driver to the 2-in, 4-out processor, leaving the last (usually woofer) channel connected to one amplifier, and the other two outputs from the active crossover connect to the inputs of two other amplifier channels, then you can tri-amp your speakers. Note that this will take three amplifier channels per speaker. If you are like many here, finding extra amplifiers to drive your speakers in tri-amp mode is usually not a big issue. Note that you will not have the flexibility to change the crossover frequency of the woofer to the midrange, nor be able to EQ the woofer channel with the active crossover, but you will still be able to use the active crossover to EQ the most important portions of the spectrum and digitally delay the other two drivers in order to time-align your speakers. Some Klipsch models (e.g., Heresy, Cornwall) have a long midrange horn and a direct radiator woofer. This means the the driver with longest delay -- the midrange driver -- will stay connected to the original passive crossovers, and the other two driver channels (tweeter and woofer) can be digitally delayed by the active crossover to time-align to the midrange. EDIT: 14 Nov 2016-- New users of active crossovers looking for more detail on how to install them into the setups can refer to this thread on using Xilica active crossovers: _______________________________________________________________________ EDIT: 14 Nov 2016-- Users of active crossovers seeking to set their parametric equalization filters (PEQs) easily and rapidly will be interested in using Room EQ Wizard (REW) to generate and optimize those semi-automatically. A link to a tutorial thread on that subject can be found here: Chris

An idea stolen from another thread: I thought it could be cool to have a thread to tell about something we’ve scored. Regardless (some say irregardless) of where it’s found - Craigslist, ebay, neighbor’s garage sale, curb finds, dumpster diving expedition, stolen from your church, other forum, etc…, or what you got – speakers, amp, mail order bride, table saw – it’s just an opportunity to share your story. Was it worth the drive, what it cost, was there an eviction notice on your door when you got home? Share to price if you want, say something nice, or talk smack about the deal. And yes, maybe this should be in the lounge section. I’ll go first. Hi, my name is James and I’m an addict. My first pair of Klipsch came from a Craigslist find. They were Birch Heresy and in the same town, so I didn’t have to drive too far. When I got home, I didn’t try to dispute other’s opinion that they were big speakers, nor did I know the potency and the stepping stone effect with which I was dealing.

Ok guys I have some stuff for sale. If interested pm me. If using paypal you need to add 3% fee Nautilus 804 black ash (2000$)and matching center htm1 black ash(1400$). Speakers sound great cabinets and grills do show wear. B&k avr 507 - monster receiver in great shape no remote 250$ Marantz cc4000 5 CD player with remote 60$ I will ship at your expense or local pickup in homestead fl (33030) is welcomed . These things are for sale elsewhere (flea bay etc.. And Craigslist) you can see pics of all except the center on flea bay cuz I have not posted it yet, I can send pics of it to serious buyers . Iam offering these things here at better price than fleabay because there is no fees here so don't buy them there just pm me.

gorgeous La Scala... So Cal He wants a pretty penny for them, but they are beautiful... upgraded cross overs to from the looks of it.

I noticed on the crites website today that Bob has a new addition to his family, a baby girl. Thought folks here might want to say congrats and send their love and best wishes.

Hello Forum, it has been a while I need your HELP. Thinking of pulling the trigger on a pair KLF-30's. Currently running a pair of RF-7's as well as Forte II. Ever since I picked up the Forte and replacing the woofers with Crites upgrades I have fell in love with these and the 7's are collecting dust. I am selling both the 7's and the Forte with the original intention of picking up a pair of La Scala. That has not come to pass however. So in my quest I came across a pair of KLF-30's in very good condition. The seller is asking $900 O.B.O. so there may be some negotiation room. A minor 2 1/2 hour drive one way as well. I have always loved the KLF-30 just for its sheer presence. Klipsch 12" x2 plus a horn, YAY!!! I love the sound of the Forte II, in my opinion they blow the 7's away. I have never heard the KLF-30 however and am seeking YOUR knowledge and experience. I am strictly 2.1 channel rock/funk/pop music. Can you all please weigh in? Will the KLF last? Do they have the warm Forte like sound? Would you want a pair in your cave? (side note, will be saving a ton of $$$ if I go with KLF) Thank you for your time Matt

Thought it would be interesting to post not that it is really relevant or anything but One of the only really close family members I have outside my immediate family is my cousin Andrew Leone. Why is this something id post on our beloved forum? Because he is a top team fighter, and his brother as well and who are they sponsored by? Our even more beloved Klipsch. I’ll post a link to a video of him advertising with our cherished company this weekend.

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Im posting two revolving door setups. I wish i had photos all along of some of the older setups including the RF 25s, Quintets, then RF-83s in my old home but i only have a few of the RF-83s in my first setup. My rf 25s, RWS10d my dad uses in his setup now. First photo is of the Pioneer Elite 60" pro 151 Plasma and then the second setup is with the Elite 70" led with RF7iis 2 channel setup.

Hi my name is toolz, the story behind the name is a different story for a different time, I have a problem, I am a addict. My first pair of Klipsch were purchased at a local community yard sale a few years back. I was not looking for speakers just an inexpensive receiver for the garage. I found a old Sansui receiver for ten dollars and the couple said why don't you take the speakers with the receiver. They were a pair of 1979 Heresys. I was hooked. My wife says I am a crazy man and rolls her eyes when I say lets take a ride. "Where are they this time" she says and off we go. I have accumulated 7 pairs of various Klipsch speakers in 3 years. I also have acquired numerous parts and pieces. I have a problem. Recently there were two great deals on the forum one for a pair of Jubs and a pair of Palladium P-39F. I started to hyperventilate over the thought of the possibility of owning either of these Klipsch speaker systems. Now both sets were at least a 14 hour ride one way for me. I sat a the keyboard palms sweating, heart racing, ready to type a reply and out of nowhere the wife with the female 6th sense put a stop to my next fix. All is lost... . Maybe next time. I know many of you out there have a similar problem, so lets all join in and have some fun.

bump the deal day

I think you are making a good decision.

Hi, my name is Billy, some say silly, or belly. It is all good. I found a pair of RF-3 for $100 in St. Augustine, Fl. I spent an extra hour in Jacksonville with my fiance trying to come back home to Tallahassee area. Roadtrip with her was nice and she likes the speakers. Unreal but alright!

Looking for Scala's in Mid Missouri NOT GONNA SETTLE, YAY! good bye RF-7, good bye 350 wpc Carver... Hello pretty, oiled girls in a cumbersome square box. Yup! holding out )) Thanks everyone!

Thank you all for chiming in and helping with my dilemma. So I believe the best for me will be to hang on to the Forte II's (paid for). Sell the 7's and the mongo amp I power them with. Take that money and create a La Scala fund. The right pair WILL come along. The warm sound from the Heritage series has grown on me and I think there may be some disappointment in the KLF (you helped same me money). Thanks again, this Forum ROCKS

Dude thats awesome, so I am clear your cousin lives in or is from southeast Asia. Really glad to Klipsch to so some different advertisement.

Probably did this before, but here goes nothing. Usually that black bench seat along the left wall has clothes waiting to be folded and put away OR it's used as sound absorbers to adjust the sound of the room...............yea that's the story I'm sticking with !

Keep in mind I have 2 MULTI Channel Systems, going on 4; using La Scalas for 2 channel in a MULTI Chanel system. You should hold out for the La Scalas; have seen a mint pair go for $600 around here in the last year & a pair of rough finished ones go for $400. Keep looking & use the Forte or RF7 until.

Here is my text of a 'Thumbs Up' because our beloved forum it seems, well I just copy/paste it: "You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" Well excuse the chit out of me!

Good deal, ya for some reason all or most of my photos were over 2 mb. I usually try and re size them. Or I have liked using picasa, or something of the sort.

The deal that he speaks of would be the one that he and I did. I have nothing but positive comments about our transaction and would HIGHLY recommend doing business with Joe. He is a standup guy and I would not hesitate to send $$. I took a bit of a gamble by driving 4 1/2 hours to his house to buy a pair of RF-83s and an RC-64. The speakers were absolutely mint and I found Joe to be a really nice guy. If you are interested in the items that he is selling, I would jump on them. Ron

All you gotta do now is teach her how to crimp and solder, eh? Congrats.

My system did not know how to handle "Brokeback Mountain." It was all too confusing.....

Stacking work great. I have two SS 18.1's stacked.

Sounds like either your pictures file size was very large, or you posted a butt load of pics in 1 post.

http://www.reverbnation.com/playlist/view_playlist/-4?page_object=artist_2865276 Check out here. She did these 4 covers last year at Ocean Industries over on James Island. The guitar is her coach Aaron Levy, who is a bit younger than you but you may know as he went to St Andrews. The drummer is Daniel Crider from the Dead 27's and he's Elise Testone's drummer. Stairway is pretty darn good and I will tell you they really didn't changer her voice at all. She pretty much sounds like that live.

Well I managed to get the other one unboxed anyway. My daughter had a play last night and after dinner and all that I didn't get home until 12:00. Then today she's on stage playing music and tomorrow has another play. In-laws are here and now I have to go out AGAIN and feed them. It ain't easy man....

I don't see Billy lugging the 39's around but if he still has the KLF 30's he could bring those and we could do a shootout with my Chorus II's and you're RF7 II's . That would be interesting . Can't fit the chorus II's in my sedan so I might need a little assistance in that regard .

Maybe not flatter, but more engaging.

Su seguro servidor... Dave

The video post will be of interest.

Good point. Most, if not all, powered subs have their amps attached to the back wall of the sub's cabinet.Yes, but the point that the poster was making speficially mentions "Tubes" and the theory is.. if I walk up and flick one with nothing playing, I would hear it's "microphonic" distorion. I say, "There are better things in life to worry about." They only thing better than what I have would be a set of Jubilees with a furniture grade finish. Only quoting to say that that is one KILLER set up!!

Cool. Looking forward to the video

Cognitive dissonance occurs when one believes A but repeatedly practices NOT A. It is a clash between beliefs and actions that involve opposing beliefs. Can we agree on that? As an audiophile I possess this belief: Not all sonic attributes properly correlate to explicit measurement. The way I act on the belief is to use my listening evaluations to select equipments based on the fully subjective analysis. Ergo, I am acting in accordance with my belief, not against it. So, I don't think most audiophiles suffer cognitive dissonance in this business of selecting wires. Boo ping chau, moocha kowa gee. Ling dau goonka gui. Ron

The army is being assembled

Thanks guys. I did make a "New Granddaughter" announcement in this section of the forum back on Dec 29. Hannah is doing fine. She will be a week old on Sunday.

Follow this link and scroll down until you get to the NBS Pre-amp..... http://www.nosvalves.com/index4.htm I bought one.

I've always used Milwaukee tools and put them through their paces. I have their M18 cordless kit and love it. I've also got a corded circular saw and drill and love those too. I plan on using them for many years to come.

Great Post! I remember reading through a lot of different threads to understand the basics and then trying to google additional information, but now it's right here for everyone.