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  1. 3 points
    This is my first time in this particular thread, just now today. I have had the luxury for over 20 years of being invited to multi million dollar homes, complete home audio installations galore, start to finish on many occasions. Homes built with audio behind it 100%. From one of a kind pieces of equipment built for extremely wealthy people some were audiophiles as well as the rare and limited produced actual gold internals to the outside casing. This has led me obviously into a modest outlook and drive with my setups my entire life. Sure i havnt heard everything although i have heard nearly all variations of klipsch(dont get me wrong, there are antique klipsch i have only seen as well as some updated, custom modifications, that i also appreciate very dearly although many i have not heard) in my time even at moments steering towards sleek and simple also spending modest as well as large amonts of money only to find limitations in the gear instantly after opening the box to the point of returning to the audio only store, over and over and over again so many multiple times then settling for what i actually thought just looked good for over $10k mostly because i was tired of the stress driving back in forth. That simple. Yes iv listened to prototype and demo $200,000 amps. Speakers costing well over $100,000, some in homes. The countless times iv heard and everybody has heard wait til you hear this. To hear non affectionate noise to my ear let alone my other ear. Anyhow in the past few weeks im finding myself looking for another or the next step. And normally the size of the globe would not detour me from getting what i want, maybe patience although things as im learning are a bit simpler than i once thought. So anyhow i have read Claudes posts for years, some time before i ever thought I would meet the guy. He has a vast knowledge of graphs and charts(more or near as much as a few of my heroes in audio) let alone the generosity i have today read in this thread. If i were any corporate speaker builder in the world i would copy this thread let alone get in touch with Claude and use this quarter pie horn and patent it. I am in serious delegation as i find myself learning with(I just wish lol) and from Claude although so many others have his info right before our faces(or at least a bit to say the least now knowing Claude). The Claude Quarter Pie up close and personal. Well i have slept in front of so many audio reproduction setups including klipschorns, slept in front of my own belles more than a few times and spent hours in front of a few pair of lascalas and truly enjoyed them all. Some were more fun than others of course im sure many around here have done the same, please dont read my terms to loosely lol. When i first heard jubilees i was not ever going to put them in the back of my brand new truck even though i will say, at that time i could buy anything i wanted which is likely why i was led buy a freind of mine who owned the custom audio store i frequented at the time. Anyhow my auditions with the jubilees with the 502 about 10 years ago on a farely modest tube amp, some around here find mcintosh to be the king and i dont mean to bother anybody but there are far greater amplifiers on this earth and a large amount of them as well. Many not costing anywhere near what macs do although that is everybodys choice/preference, fare enough. I have too owned a few Mc units and they are a great investment. In my view if bought new or used regardless i will be selling to get my money back by choice. Claude and i had very little discussion of amps and nothing leading to what i stated above. Primary discussion was about choice material and most of all what the horn does all agreeable and understandable facts for perfection in noise re/&production. Actually in my opinion it is/may be possible to convert live or studio noise in to material to listen to that sounds better at that point, in such a setup as Caude does have. I can go on and on and i am being quite honest and dont throw rotten stuff at me i am stating fact weather you want to read it... your choice. While contemplating my current audio views with quarter pie thankfully gracious as to take my wife and i in to his home for an audition of the 402 most of all and my curiosity about the Danley dts10 of course and i just so stumbled on what i found to be farely simple as is the 402, the quarter pie horn. I am going to leave it like this. And by the way i may have heard a pair of p39's and never knew it at on point in time and im in no way deminishing the fact that klipsch is the #1 greatest speaker builder in the world by all standards you can view klipsch. Although to this point in time A side by side comparison of both the jubilee and the quarter pie may be 50/50 to my preference. Like i said i didnt even know what it was when i heard the jubilee for the first and only time i actually recall hearing(through the last 4 years i have actually heard other, some variations and some with the brand klipsch on them) hey check this out..... and there they were and was an amp with them bulbs on it.....is what i seen it then(it was tough but locals to me kicked my head, it only took a few times to get tubes out of my skull lol). Anyhow with the quarter pie and truly laying on the floor crawling up into each corner in claudes system and room, nook and crannys checking for room dispersion out of the size and style of horn as it is/was...as well of center of gravity, the sweet spot standing on the chair you name it. This is a fact....my current wife/fiance and i have demoed systems all over the midwest. Including some of of absolute most up to date demo theater rooms in more friends homes than i can count. Not 1..... one time has she ever sat at center of gravity like she did at Claudes. That is as well as the rest of my comment here 100% fact. Using a simple watt. wether it be from tube and solid state it is not the amp you are listening too, which i completely knew before knowing claude although a horn, to disperse sound with that single watt, $5million dollar watt or a 2 dollar watt it really dont matter what watt you get....just use it wisely. The glorious 402 is absolutely complemented greater than i have ever once heard with the quarter pie. More than anything i have ever once heard in my entire life. Simply put. To date i appreciate all systems. I am beyond content now. I walked in to Claudes to check out the 402 and the Danley dts10. I walked out a truly different person. I would compare it to what dmt does to some people in opening up there mind. It may also be very cautious because like an alcoholic you absolutely need more. Maybe its like heroin and once you have it once you want it all the time. Open to many interpretation. I do have a few adjustment in my room that are simple and are 99%done now. I am fully content with what i have right now. If i had a saw and Claudes blessing your darn right id have quarter pies. We did discuss figure for me to buy it, mostly one sided because it is not for sale although there was a moment i really thought it was going to happen, that was the moment my Claude made me aware my wife was in the yes mode. No Kidding. No i cannot even come close to the system Claude has. Not even a thought. I have my preferred klipsch gear right now and simply very content. If i decide to make a change in my radio the first and only person i will discuss if its only to get his blessing with....will be claude. Those danleys also. They are so heavenly. Putting the 3 in particular together. I am a 3 way guy no doubt and claudes high frequency channel is another time. So with the klipsch 402, A Claude quarter Pie low frequency section and 2 dts10's you do not only have a home run, not just the grand slam to include...Its simply Babe Ruth completing the cycle in the audio world series right now 2014 produced prototype of the CLAUDE QUARTER PIE HORN. Blessings to all and thank YOU Claude once again very much. Never in my life have i imagined the contentment with just the fact i have heard true pure audio excellence bar none. Sincerely Mark Beeker
  2. 3 points
    We had some Landsharks about a week ago, I have been collecting beer caps for the bar, but no plain caps anything different and we have to drink them, so my wife buys 6 of something different on occasion. Don't know what I'm going to do with them yet, but it was a good idea even if I don't use them. I do the same thing with coffee, sometimes just drink it room temp, kind of a different taste compared to hot, not bad at all.
  3. 3 points
    I was sitting on the front porch today drinking a cold beer watching my wife cut the grass. I was thinking about how hot it must be for my wife pushing the mower when an old woman from next door walked up on the porch and sternly said "here you are sitting in the shade on the front porch drinking a cold beer watching your wife out there in this heat pushing that mower. You should be hung". I said "I am, that's why she's out there pushing the mower". Keith
  4. 2 points
    we need all of them lol i like my pc bouncing and crying laughing
  5. 2 points
    from tears of joy to tears of sad
  6. 2 points
    That is funny. I like../d putin or did. The guys falling off every scale of being liked seems to be. What a shame once to be pretty cool and in the pic above let alone his actions his true colors shine through
  7. 2 points
    Thank you Carl. Iv turned down several in the past 2 year at $2k a pop and so many simply failing. Looking like my new insurance will cover me good now. With meds many only hear of on the news or surgery im actually able to move around now keeping in mind not to go too far with my body, just a bit of activity at a time to notice effects. None the less in the past week i have been able to complete and actually get ahead of my wants and needs in preparation if i lose more mobility to walk. After going to Indy yesterday then a moment at the horse track it was rough getting up getting ready for the day...just take a little magic pill that tells my brain no your fine lol medicine does work. its amazing. Cheers
  8. 2 points
    I had a thread i was about to post as well about the laughs it exposed. At least once a day klipsch forum makes me laugh into tears lol Boxx you kill it every time lol. Many cheers to you my friend! Many cheers to many others as well. I laughed for 30 minutes straight Boxx. lol your great. That thread is hilarious. It should have the bad material deleted and left with the funny parts. Well over an hour now im not in tears but my pc is still bouncing off my gut lol i love this place. i'll still be laughing tomorrow. just hope i stop by 9a.m. monday morning i have my 14th and 15th, another double ephidural procedure scheduled lol yes i have to hold very still no laughing...thanks a lot lol this place is the best
  9. 2 points
    And I would rather be in bed with the neighbors daughter ........long sigh! Time for the second cup..... Cheers Gents At least you have something to look at now and then, all iv got in the Burb's is Tweekers, sometimes you spot a good lookin honey, stop and take a real good look and there it is "Tweeker" body around 110 Lbs and a 120 year old face.......Dam just thinkin about it make me reach for the Scotch
  10. 2 points
  11. 2 points
    I'd rather be sick in bed, than have a cold.
  12. 2 points
    Good idea & hope it soothes your throat & you feel better soon.
  13. 2 points
    Hey now i have been proud of my lawn mower since I was in my early 20s, my wife has all ways done a wonderful job. Now the question remains, are you proud of the clothes washer?
  14. 2 points
  15. 2 points
    LOL, No mirrors here and don't want one around me. I might fall in love...again.
  16. 2 points
    Very interesting. Man im glad those didnt happen although sure they were ok. Look to be a kevlar cones w metal dust cover like paradigm monitors made today. Iv had some of them. They seen the light of day and were jammed back in the box and taken back. I actually do still have some speakers that do look very similar tho not paradigm
  17. 1 point
    I need advice on picking the appropriate speaker for my room. Room is 12' x 16' with 8 foot ceiling. I'll be using a Primaluna Dialogue Integrated amp. I mainly listen to jazz. My first choice is cornwall iii or heresy with a possible subwoofer. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
  18. 1 point
    He is all show.......you could take him Zako!
  19. 1 point
    Wow that would be interesting. To see what klipsch has had that didnt make it to production. In the past we have seen many variations that didnt cut it for long. The klipsch speakers from the past are such an interesting platform that has grown so many different directions. Lots of interesting thoughts. One day the current models that didnt make it would make great visuals and provide interesting specs...Many, many years from now. That such as early heritage have been shown and none exist xept 1 pair in the entire world that many years ago were meant to be used in mono rather than stereo. Last sentence i wrote is an actual true statement or actually happened with early klipsch heritage from what i gather. A pair of shorthorns if i recall correctly
  20. 1 point
    Well Tarheal the good news is tanning season is right around the corner.
  21. 1 point
    also... take a look at ALK/fastanes offerings for direct fit replacement.
  22. 1 point
    No relations: http://orlando.craigslist.org/ele/4411237454.html
  23. 1 point
    Bet it will be even more interesting if he doesn't!
  24. 1 point
  25. 1 point
    i'm sure Bob would be glad to ship you a pair. brand new one owner
  26. 1 point
    Happy Friday Inmates Its 5 o'clock somewhere
  27. 1 point
    And I would rather be in bed with the neighbors daughter ........long sigh! Time for the second cup..... Cheers Gents
  28. 1 point
    See someone got the punch line I posted above...
  29. 1 point
    Stereo Review did a really favorable article in June '91; I have a copy, somewhere, but, have not been able to find the article on-line. Did find several copies of the mag for sale.
  30. 1 point
    I'm back at it. I Removed and tested the 2sk170 and 2sj74, both good. Started checking resistor values, none are burnt, but R11 measures 1.3M ohms, That might be an issue for a .47R. Replaced the resistor and re-biased the amp. All is working properly, sounds great except for a low level hum that only occurs with my preamps connected - some sort of ground loop I suspect. During biasing, I had an oscilloscope on the output, and was clear the trace was cleaner biased at 1.2mv. however my instructions mention biasing close to 0mv. In the end, I stopped tweaking at 0.4mv. Checked temp at both heat sinks, approximately 125 deg F. Listening test, this amp has only been running 8 hours and sounds great. I have been running this amp on my personal speaker design ( The Yields). These speakers utilize an Audio Nirvana Super 10 full range driver from 200+. Immediately I verified Mr. Pass's depiction of this amps characteristics, Bass is spot on, detail is amazing, and this amp is unforgiving of response spikes typically found in full range drivers. Nelson Pass quote. "F5: Dynamic, accurate, a little unforgiving. On speakers with peaks in the top end, it will reveal as too bright and annoying. On speakers with a slightly diminished top end, it adds a little sparkle, this in spite of being flat out at high as 500 KHz. Good control - if your speaker is a little boomy, it will tend to tighten it up. Overall, probably the most neutral of the FW amps. It will drive 4 ohm loads without particular issues. Oh, and it does sound very good." I could not agree more. Dave
  31. 1 point
    Even more, now... It has gone way beyond whether to mow in a box pattern or to mow row over row.... What does a Boxx pattern look like?
  32. 1 point
    Or unusual things.... A snowstorm in Ovilla, Texas......
  33. 1 point
    Any top line ht from klipsch is going to get you to great places. I have a flagship reference ht and a heritage ht in another room. Heritage will be a much better value if you find good deals imo. But you probably wont have a matching system in the room. You will probably end up with different color speakers all over your room unless you are willing to wait a long time to match everything. Plus you will have to work on the older speakers also. My advise is to get heritage but you should keep those things in mind if you do.
  34. 1 point
    Good luck with snagging them. Let us know if you get them. Mine are 1977 model (bought in the Chicago area). They are in good shape, but the crossovers did need upgrading. Luckily, I had a pair of sonicap AA crossovers (bought off the forum) to swap in. They filled in the wall nicely:
  35. 1 point
    LOL, Sounds good to me, Sumatra coffee. Thanks
  36. 1 point
    Funny. I look at the pretty girls and think about how babies are made...
  37. 1 point
    Mark- Your price is not out of line considering the ALK crossovers and the effort you have put into the paint job. I for one appreciate the 'spatter' paint job that gives the LS's a gig ready vibe. Further I dig your crusty sense of humor to ward off time wasting tire kickers. I hope you get all fourteen hundred of those dollars for those righteous speakers. Don't let a little hazing from forum vets bother you they are like big brothers - they will grow to love you. As for newbs that thread crap - I'm speachless.
  38. 1 point
    that's a great idea!!! Volti even sells braces & grills...
  39. 1 point
    I kind of just went through the same thing so I can tell you what helped me alot. I was using marine spar varnish on a bar which was many square feet, and it dries even faster than Poly so this should help. I used marine spar varnish because the bar is outdoors and poly can not take sunlight and big temp changes, but poly will give the same gloss. I put the varnish on quickly with the brush in sections and used one of those cheap 3'' foam brushes and just slowly passed it over where the varnish was just applied, just lightly dragging with the brush. What this does is smooth out the varnish and remove all the bubbles. It worked great , the brush size you use may be different considering the size of the piece and they are dirt cheap. It's the cheap foam brushes that have a point on the end, hold at an angle and just drag without pressure and it removes all the bubbles, it really works, varnished a bar top with 6-8 coats (lost track) that is over 40 sq feet counting the back part of the bar and no bubbles.
  40. 1 point
    He was doing nearfield listening and missed it all together.
  41. 1 point
    Pinging the Chinese and Aussies say. Yet to confirm?
  42. 1 point
    Then it's more than likely not a ground loop issue.
  43. 1 point
    An A network would be a good start. The EVM 15L is an 8 ohm woofer, so, theoretically would need 3.18 mH to roll off at 400 Hz. BUT, between the horn and mass rolloff of the driver at that frequency, there is a natural acoustic rolloff according to the curves. If you also include the 0.5 mH inductance of the driver voice coil, add it to the Klipsch 2.5 mH choke in the A and AA networks, you get 3 mH, which is within about 6% of textbook value, so it should work.
  44. 1 point
    See post#3 of this thread for Sketchup downloads of the most current drawings of the Qpie.
  45. 1 point
    NO. I wanted space efficiency as well as the closest thing to a straight axis horn as possible. LaScala, Peavey FH-1 and MWM are symmetrical bifurcated bi-folds, where the sound does a total 0f 180 degree turns. Khorn and Jubilee are bi-furcated tri-fold and they do 360 degree turns. Mine being assymettrical, only does 90-135 degree turn, worst case. If I ever get a room big enough, I would redesign this as a straight axis horn (my favorite), but it would stick out of the corner about 7 ft. Within a db or so, this horn/driver combo is as efficient or slightly more than all of the Klipsch built horns. The mods that JC proposed would improve the high end, but not the bass. This horn has one of the flattest and smoothest responses I've ever measured, so why mess with it. Next week. I will incorporate it into my setup and let y'all know how it sounds, which according to the curves, should be very good indeed.
  46. 1 point
    When you say the measurments are "huge" do you mean the frequency response curves? I only wanted 60 to 300 Hz.to hand off the K-402/K-1133. The EVM woofer is much flatter than a K-33 or 43 because according to Bruce Edgar, it's mass rolloff doesn't happen until almost 400 Hz. That woofer resonates at 45-50 Hz. With the back chamber volume (done on purpose) being smaller than an MWM, I get much better excursion limit, which hits a 0.6mm peak at 1 Watt input @ 45 Hz.(this is an 8 ohm woofer with a ref. efficiency of about 6%). By using a 4th order high pass filter at 60 Hz. it will bring the excurion way down (and thus the IM distortion) as my system hands off the heavy bass lifting to my twin DTS-10's, which each have the equivalent of horn loaded 18's in them (two 12's=one 18 in terms of cone area). When PWK had the plexiglas Khorn built ( a thing of beauty), he did it to be able to measure cone excursion with a laser. Supposedly, a K-33 moves only about 1.5 mm with the bass at full output, which is amazing. I'm trying to keep it below that figure and reduce IM distortion further. So the upper end of this bass horn and the lower end of the K402 are sharing "midbass duties" that were formerly handled by the amazing Peavey MB-1 horn, which was really huge. Also, a Peavey FH-1 is 25x24x30" but it's rectangular shape wastes all the air space on either side and in the corner behind it. So it's about 10 cubic feet plus about 6 more of wasted air space. My horn fits neatly in the corner, drops the hgith down by 8 inches and takes up only 15 cubic feet while wasting Zero air space, so it actually saves a cubic foot while extending the bass from 105 Hz. down to 60 Hz. with the same driver.
  47. 1 point
    I'm about to put the lid on the second one. Stayed Are you kiddin? I welcome your input. The only guy I know who has designed and built more horns than you is Roy. The speakers were in different corners in two different basements. In either case, the measurememt Mic. is resting on the ground right in the center of the horn mouth. I'm going with the assumption that two pairs of re-coned EVM15L's with non-oem parts, two years apart, from 2 different professional re-coners will have actual T/S parameters that are "close enough." Not sure about the efficiency difference, since they were measured months apart and the voltage drive never recorded or matched, obviously. I did a curve offset in REW with full octave smoothing to line things up as best as possible. Then I removed the smoothing to get an idea of where the peaks and troughs were. The red is the new horn. The green is the FH-1. no EQ on either, but I did have a Klipsch 2.5 mH choke on the FH-1 at the time I measured it. It's effect occurd above 400 Hz. so I thinks it's still a valid relative Peak and Trough comparison. Obviously, the new horn not only extends the low end, but is way smoother in the entire band. I have had to use a 10 db boost at 60 Hz. the make the FH-1 go low enough to mate with my DTS-10's at 60 Hz. and below. So my main goal was to lower the mid and tweeter horns by about 8" AND to acoustically extend the bass response by 45 Hz. going from a 2.8 ft. to a 5 ft. horn, approximated, since Hornresp assumes the horn will be axis symmetric, which my horn clearly is NOT. But when you look at how much corner air space is totally wasted with an FH-1 in a corner, it only makes sense to modify "the lumber" with the same driver to get better results, eh? Also, according to Hornresp, the excusion of that woofer goes way up at about 60 Hz., which is where I will do a 4th order high pass to keep the distortion way low. I'm pretty sure the efficiency numbers are about 104 db/watt, but I don't care since I'm bi-amping and can set the woofer voltage drives wherever they need to be.
  48. 1 point
    I will take you up on that, amigo. I have been building the second unit and will provide you with the parts dimensions. Very easy to build.
  49. 1 point
    Since LaScalas are so close to FH1's the answer is yes..............but, you can PEQ them too to reach down to the Super Spuds. Right now, I have the GREATEST bass definition on 2.1 music I have ever had. Every bass note, even from 5, 6, and 7 String Basses, that easily get down to 31 Hz. (or lower if detuned or MIDI synthed), so having "bottomless" horn bass capability is very cool. The response below is with my FH-1's PEQd, which I won't need to do once the new Quarter Pie horns are in service. Can't wait. What is PEQ?
  50. 1 point
    Yes, the driver enters the hole sideways/diagonally, then sits in an 8" deep chamber. The cover goes over the hole and sticks out 3/4". They were built from leftover lumber. The top and bottom pieces were radiused from 45x45 pieces from a LabHorn I decided not to build. These could be made from 4x8 sheets cut exactly in half to simplify things a bit and make s slightly longer horn from 48x48 pieces......not critical. I will know for sure when I publish plans and cut layouts, but I'm pretty sure a pair of these can be made from 3-4 sheets of 3/4 plywood or MDF. The drivers go for about $125 each on the used market so they can be built for about $400/pair or less if you can find drivers cheaper. Here's the Hornresp model for this horn vs. the FH-1. Overall, the measured values were pretty close to this. You can see from the model and the plots that this represents a huge amount of bass extension in a low profile horn that's easy to build.
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