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Cosmic_surfer, Hi! Welcome to the forums!! Come in and stay a while.... I bought my mother and father a RF-7 home theatre setup and I use to have Klipschorns and La Scalas. I now have 7 Klipsch TSCMs which is the Klipsh Pro Version of Klipschorns. To me, the RF-7s provide a very nice home theatre and an obvious wife or mother acceptance factor, but the Referance is not nearly as good for music to my ears, and as such, the Heritage also makes a more articulate center channel. Anything the Heritage may lack in Bass can be handled by a Killer sub or two, or four subs!! The main recquisition for Heritage like Klipschorns and La Scalas is space. You need a room big enough to not only look appropriate, but to let them breathe. Many here will argue that Klipschorns sound good in a small room, and they do, but you really haven't heard them if you haven't heard them with 20 feet between the right and left channels. How big is the room you are thinking of doing in Heritage anyhow??? Look forward to your response. Roger

Had a great week-end out at a bird reserve.

how do you eat an elephant? One bi......... I know, that was bad

Found some excellent condition Belle's (4) on CL locally. Original owner purchased new in 82-83, all original. My first listening experience with these in his garage. He powered them for me with a vintage Pioneer receiver and they sound fantastic. Looking forward to bringing these back so spec for an even greater experience......sorry for the crappy iPhone pics Running these now in 2 channel from the Oppo and wow, incredible sound.

Neither you nor I would hold those opinions had you or I not listened to them both. SSH

This just in from Roy. He cc'd Hunter with his response. "The short answer from my perspective is yes."

If he named them, he is the DADDY. Now, as the whether they are Heritage, or not is neither here, nor there; they are ALL Klipsch.

I mentioned that i recently jumped into home theatre and purchased a fleet of reference class speakers. I have started getting interested in the heritage series speakers (Khorns, la scala, belle, etc.) and was curious how these compared to the reference speakers i purchased (rf-7, rc-7, rs-7, rsw-1)? I have seen from the specs that the heritage class speakers dont really have the punch that my reference speakers have, but do they excel in areas that my reference speakers do not? Is it feasible to assemble a second set of theatre speakers consisting entirely of heritage speakers? I definitely am appealed to their furniture like appeal.

I have for sale a pair of forte' stock phenolic tweeter diaphragms that were removed from my long gone oak oil fortes that now reside in the Ukraine. The price of $35.00 $30.00 includes (2) diaphragms in Crites cases and double boxed for safe delivery. I pay for shipping and PayPal fee. I am not certain but I think they fit the Chorus also. Thanks for any interest. Bill

What is the material that is inside the cabinets that looks and feels like a layered paper, secured with string? What's the term used for it? Can it be purchased anywhere? Or should it be replaced? Mine is very, very fragile, and in one of the cabinets has been ravaged by mice....

Oh god. I have infected the Forum!

I don't really agree that they sound way different. I ran them side by side for hours and think they sound more alike than different. The cornwalls have a little bigger bass and a bigger voice than the rf7ii. The rf7ii has better top end sparkle that sounds a little better. Both speakers play with an effortless sound. And they both have that same klipsch sound. But thats compared with the top of the reference line per say. vs the lower levels the heritage would walk all over them imo. So in general with all speakers in the reference line included i would say the heritage line are just a better speaker with better everything. This is my opinion of course and i only own the cornwalls and heresys.

Medicare is the most cost effective medical insurance program in the United States. By "cost effective" I mean it has high customer satisfaction and the LOWEST administrative costs of any medical plan. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/about/Crossroads/06_13_03.html Yes, and one of the better proposals before the ACA was voted in was to simply expand Medicare to cover everyone.

I honestly feel that anything would be better than what I have experienced. For the past 6 years i have only had the stock soundbar on my 52" sharp aquos. Before that, my dad had a sony 5.1 system out of the box. It was decent at the time and really changed the home theatre experience at the time. I am not really asking which speakers are better, I was just asking what areas the heritage speakers excelled at better than the reference line. It sounds like they would be more laid back and smoother. I really don't feel that one is better than the others, but the longer i own klipsch, the more I want to follow the rabbit into wonderland. If I have it my way I will have 2-3 home theatre audio setups, just to switch it up once in a while.

When I was very young, my father had a friend who was a custodian at a local hospital in Syracuse, NY. He was a kind, gentle, hard working man. His employer did not provide him with health care coverage. Imagine, a hospital not providing their unskilled workforce with insurance. I will never forget the day (I was probably 10 years old) when I saw him tear up after the death of his wife from cancer. He was telling my father that he found out that his wife, prior to her death, had been cutting her pain pills in thirds because they had no insurance and the pain pills were expensive. She did not want her husband to know that she was stretching out the medication because, even though she was dying, she did not want HIM to feel bad that he could not afford her medication. I am sorry, but in the richest nation in the history of time, how can ANYONE deny health care coverage to another? Are we savages?

Medicare is the most cost effective medical insurance program in the United States. By "cost effective" I mean it has high customer satisfaction and the LOWEST administrative costs of any medical plan. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/about/Crossroads/06_13_03.html

"even the Quartet" . . . very interesting and clarifying. So then, everything before the KG2 and KG4 are Heritage, and of course II and III versions of all pre-KGs are Heritage too. As a relative novice, I always wondered what the "truth" was . . . thanks all for bouncing the subject around getting the info and posting it, especially for us new to The Heritage line.

Well the basement that will be our theatre is fairly large. The only issue comes with a support beam in about the center of the whole room. If I had to guess I would say it is probably a 15x20 foot space. As of right now the television will go in a corner, my wife wanted a sectional for the basement (I wanted theatre seating, but we have to make sacrifices where necessary). It will be a little tight in the comer with the tv and the 2 rf-7s being jammed into it. The back of the couch is against that support beam, so we only have maybe a 5 foot distance to the tv. Not the ideal setup, but it is our first house... Im only 30, but I would like to acquire the tech as soon as I am able because the room can be created in a house that has a more ideal area for home theatre.

Much comes down to personal taste and what sounds best to you. I love the in-your-face drama and dynamics of our all-KLF series HT system (which might be comparable to some newer Reference lines) but I also like what I perceive to be the somewhat more refined sound of our Heritage (Cornwall) 2 ch. system. Another listener may have a very different take, and neither of us would be "wrong." Heritage would be great for HT if that's what your ears tell you.

I would go with one or the other for the HT. I own a RF system and I don't think it is lacking in any area for HT. A subwoofer/s will be the dominate player on the low end for HT. I also don't see much advantage to not running the satellites as small and handing over the bass and LFE to a sub/s. Music taste is a whole different ballgame. A kick azz system for HT can be done with THX, Reference, Heritage, Icon or Syneregy.

What would you say each speakers benefits would be? Would 4 Khorns in the corner be good, or would it be better to use Khorns as the front left and right and use belles or la-scalas for the rear corners? Which role would each speaker class play in an idea setup?

welcome to the forum David. first thing is DO NOT try and remove the grills until you find out what year they are. the grills are not removable on them until 1975 ( the letter N = 1975 ) and all letters in the serial number from A thru M serial numbers are stamped into the wood on the top back edge up to 1983 ( Y )

A circus train as there are clearly elephants on the loose. Sorry had to say it

Yeah Dtel, it's like a bad train wreck...it's all over the place haha.

I think I liked the first half of this thread better than the second half, I could clearly tell a difference.

Sometimes concert DVD's have really good sound, select 2 ch stereo in the menu.

While having my second cup and listening to the words to Tommy by The Who on CNBC I wondered if the words would have to be altered to reflect the zeitgeist or politically correct environment of today? The line "that deaf, dumb, and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball"......would that now read "that hearing impaired, vocally challenged, visually impaired adolescent sure plays an aggressive pinball and always shares with his team mates". Doesn't really roll off the tongue now does it? X 2

More this morning "My long answer for forte chorus and quartet being a part of heritage is that those speakers were offshoots of the kg line. Kg stands for klipsch gillum. Paul helped me with the horns in the forte chorus and quartet." -- Roy Delgado "I would agree with Roy. The first products not designed by PWK were the Kg2 and Kg4. These were clearly entry level products “below” the Heresy. The Forte, Chorus, and even Quartet were designed as “part of the family” with PWK’s current five designs (Heresy, Cornwall, LaScala, Belle, and K-horn). PWK was still actively involved in design engineering, and lent his advice and approval to these new models. -- Jim Hunter

the Pops & Tics are what makes me a hater of records...they make good clay pidgeons...got a shotgun? but, I do miss my Living and Dying in 3/4 Time LP; never have bought the CD... also miss the ALBUM sized ART & Liner Notes...

I have a pair of the Jabo horns available on Ebay. They are made of fiberglass I believe and have a gelcoat finish. You might consider that method of construction. They seem to be tough too as I dropped one and no damage occurred.

Niles equipment is great. It seems like they make everything nobody else fools with. Since you are using a 12V trigger device, you can get a Niles AC-3 to turn on the device when you switch to that device. That's what I do, and it works great.

Pretty sweet amp. http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/4430952431.html

I got the point... but holding onto Belles for a long time isn't a bad thing!

Interesting.... I wonder how this could be? Room arrangement, furniture, etc.... I find this interesting also since I've heard them on a couple of occasions and thought they were very well balanced, I noticed an MC275 was listed with them and wondered if you have tried them with the different speaker taps of the unit? miketn I was just kidding. I was trying to lighten the mood. They are very nice sounding speakers.

Excellent review.... Thanks for posting...

Palladium is state of the art, there is nothing to "upgrade". I could possibly reduce some of the attenuation, but it depends on how they implemented it. How about some Teflon capacitors - I could probably do the networks for less than $2K. : )

I've never been accused of being bright.

I know how to shovel a driveway.

Nice gift, indeed. Might make me want a turntable again, I say again, might.

2 channel near-field driven by tubes (but, I'm an old guy)! Maynard

This little guy having a nice lunch today!

I like Transformers Dark of the Moon & the 2014 dts Demo Blu ray.

Great pics, everyone! From last night...

I guess zig zags wouldn't roll meatloaf very well (one of the few things i never tried).

Now that is some good looking chow. BBQ season is upon most of us-those who spend at least part of the year on the tundra anyway. Gets the imagination flowing. Thanks to all for sharing.

TV dinner part 2 21oz choice NY Strip for the Game of Thrones premier last Sunday . Strip was coated in chilled bacon fat then rubbed with salt , black pepper and brown sugar . Grilled over store bought Kingsford charcoal . Cut that sucker in half and broiled it with a healthy amount of jalapeno pimento cheese . Plated with spicy black beans and tomato turmeric rice . Side ceaser slad with tomatos and spicy ranch ." I lika the spice " For desert double coconut and almond ice cream with a bunch of frozen Heath Bar miniatures .

Type C: Type D: Type E:

This is a confusing thread.