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try them that way for a week, or, so, then try them as small and crossed at 80, or 60...see which way YOU like best... remember to set LFE+Main for the way you have them set now...

So I am looking to put together a small "micro" system (onkyo cr type) to leave on in the day time while I am gone to help keep my dog company. Don't like leaving all of the big equipment running while away. In my quest I ran across this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-McIntosh-Clock-SEAL-IN-THE-BOX-MCLK12-/310855286889?pt=US_Stereo_Component_Combos&hash=item48606b4069 Pretty cool, very pricy... just thought I'd share FYI - if anyone has a micro system they would like to sell please inbox me ♪ ♫ ♪

Sancho said exactly what I was going to recommend. It's all preference. Some like the sound of large because they sound more full, while others like the sound of small because they say it adds clarity. Try both and let your ears be the judge

maybe who does NOT listen in 2 channel? would be a good topic???

Orchids are in full bloom... even here in the desert

I really gotta watch it right now. Everybody with like 7 jubilees and 7 klipschorns are effecting me. I think i have like 1000sq ft right now my house is radio city as all our ours of course i have medical stuff i need to keep in mind right now. Maybe they will sit and i can get them for less than my other belles

Think of all the years you waited to be in this trench, enjoy every day of it.

The one thing im pretty happy with since retirement is the fact that I can rest up prior to day(s) of partying and then plenty of time to recover.

Thanks for the compliments, I really enjoy what I do. Tom

Same here, the "Retirement Trenches" im on day two of doing absolutely nothing, get up make the coffee and see the wife off to work, back to movies and naps, feels good for a change. Just waiting fro my 401 rollover any day now, then it's everything from a Reno/shooting/drinkin/Volti audio, pass out binger.....yes, and im looking forward to it.

They're that Black you love, why wait?

Take one RF, hook it up the left channel. Take one La Scala, hook it up to the right channel. Play a 30 Hz test tone through the amp loud enough that you can clearly hear the tone (if not feel it). Then pan the balance from left to right. You'll hear that the La Scala is just about as sensitive as the RF down there. Whereas the RF is padded relatively flat, the La Scala runs un-corked for all intents. IOW, you can de-rate a La Scala down to RF performance levels by EQ'ing the bottom end to match the top end. You'll end up with a La Scala that can dig just as deep as the RF by ear....if that's going to be the sole basis for comparison. The true power of the La Scala is unleashed when you high pass it near the bass bin's cutoff frequency and use a horn subwoofer as part of a 4-way. Doing that will net extremely "realistic" levels of output. ..and by "realistic", I mean "Shuttle launch pad" realistic.

I gotta pass. I have 1 pair nearly identical..I dont have the time and room. I could pull the money its just not very wise for me right now. Maybe he will drop in price. Man there prolly in rough working shape. The belles i have now are 9/10 and working. Still likely will call him, who knows. They look like they have sat for some time...a bit scary with my limited room right now lol. I'll try to post a pic. Actually looks cool but my cat buddy just climbs on speakers. He loves it lol

hmmm...nice find...I have 1 pair nearly identical. 1 more pair would make for a nice quad...struggle with money hurts..hmmm

keep us abreast of the situation. Did I ever tell you how much I like chicken? I went to bed last night with a breast in one hand and a thigh in the other........

4 different 2 channel set ups . 1 with khorn's , 1 with cornwall's , 1 with Forte's, 1 with Chorus II .

Everybody talks about the rabbit! If you continue to buy Klipsch, you will fall down the rabbit hole for sure, but it is a great experience. I love Heritage, but I wouldn't say they are "more laid back and smoother." They may well measure less smooth, although they may sound better. Smoothness (flat response) is not anywhere near everything. In rank ordering qualities that matter, Paul Klipsch put low distortion near the top, and frequency response near the bottom (perhaps someone has a copy of what he said about the matter). The Heritage line speakers are very dynamic and the ones with horn-loaded bass (Klipschorn, Belle, La Scala, La Scala II) have very clear (as opposed to muddy) low distortion bass. The Cornwall II/III has nice punchy bass, but, some find, not as tight and effortless. Those who own or have heard it say that the Jubilee is a great speaker, better than Klipschorns. The first design was meant to be the successor to the Klipschorn. There are several combinations of horns/drivers now available to assemble a Jubilee -- search the forum for more info. They are in Klipsch's Cinema/pro line now, but the photographs on the website may not cover all of the possibilities. I believe they must be purchased from Klipsch through Roy Delgado, the co-designer, but others can clarify that. I am very happy with my Klipschorn / Belle / Heresy II surround Home Theater, but if I were to start over, I would investigate the Jubilee!

Yes best to compare them yourself and see what you think

Crap you are a lucky man.

Yes, that is a little bit drastic in size but...

Bedroom setup for right now with RB-62 II for rears. It might be a little much

Likes the Heresy III for rock. Sez he's working on a review of it... Thanks for the link.

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Just walked out the back and found we have some new additions, not a great pic, they were watching me and I didn't want to disturb them since the baby's probably can't fly. Every evening there is at least 2-10 flying around between the three or four ponds in the neighborhood, they are really loud with there honking as they fly buy. One even crashed into the side of the house once almost gave me a heart attack it was so loud, I went to look and it flew off.

Great work Tom! Still enjoying the JM Blueberry I got from you

To me that is a little more than just not being politically correct which I can't stand. Politically correct (imo) is using a word to replace another which "may" offend, f.aggot is intently used to offend, I would think. Edit......I just had to I am not gay, but if I were, I would chose lesbian Stay thirsty my friend

Yes indeed.... I'm heading into downtown Dallas today to pickup a pair of 402 horns for my jubilee's. This should be a fun project....

Dire Straits was in the same boat back in the 80's with Money for Nothing. See the little f.aggot with the earring and the makeup Yeah buddy that's his own hair That little f.aggot got his own jet airplane That little f.aggot he's a millionaire Apparently, the lyrics didn't bother Elton John, so it was ok....

I was looking for a Belle to try it out as a centre channel...my La scala seems to be working just fine though. im thinking a DIY centre channel now.

Cant go wrong with a nice set of Belle's.

Why not just leave the TV on, with the exception of plasma models they use very little electricity.

That is neat indeed

I have narrowed it down to one of the sub amp. Tomorrow I will that amp on another power source.

Get in touch with claudej1 possibly. he frequents your area as well. and woodworks

It would be cheaper to buy one directly from a McIntosh dealer...

xept for the table tuba i have heard them all my friend bar none EDIT: oh yeah and the latest release from klipsch of course...name it iv heard it

Yes! Because horn-loaded Heritage (Khorn/Belle/La Scala) and Jubilee (also horn-loaded) will have tighter bass than almost any conventional sub, you would want a horn-loaded sub. Search the forum and find at least two discussed (the Tuba and another), and Google "Horn-loaded subwoofer."

I surely agree with all said. Some for large areas more than small. Even with large areas a full heresy 3 7.0 system with .2 18's is very, very good. If you want to go on budget any variation of the heresy at 7.0 with .2 18's is also very good. I have used both these systems and compared to larger klipsch heritage sure there are some large dynamics that are not hardly comparable although i find it very tough comparing it to any reference setup in surround sound. The best strength in reference was the use of the rc64ii. Just stating my opinion and experience. Even to go H3x7=$5500 or there about. Results are supreme and a great beginning. I use the latest pro heresys and heresy variations plus 2 direct radiating 18''s throughout my current surround sound and i would not change 1 thing no matter what... If you do so chose khorn, belle or lascala or other like heritage style speakers in surround sound it would be strongly urged to pair that or them with a horn subwoofer setup as well..

I don't really agree that they sound way different. I ran them side by side for hours and think they sound more alike than different. The cornwalls have a little bigger bass and a bigger voice than the rf7ii. The rf7ii has better top end sparkle that sounds a little better. Both speakers play with an effortless sound. And they both have that same klipsch sound. But thats compared with the top of the reference line per say. vs the lower levels the heritage would walk all over them imo. So in general with all speakers in the reference line included i would say the heritage line are just a better speaker with better everything. This is my opinion of course and i only own the cornwalls and heresys.

Welcome David, lots of info around here. The newest guy buys the beer!

I run a reference set up close to yours in a dedicated ht room, and a heritage ht in the family room. I don't think your missing to much with what you have. If you were just starting out i think the heritage would be the way to go. They are really awesome speakers for the money on the used market. As far as bass the Cornwall have more bass than any speakers i have spent any time with . I think depending what you get it wouldn't be a huge upgrade but if you go really big like 3 402 horns with horn bass below that would be an upgrade worth doing imo of course.

It really was all over, but that's ok, 26 pages cost the same as one page. My opinions are always just that, and I make them all up as I go.

Depends, how are you doing with habits that are hard to quit, have many ? If not give it a taste and see what you think, since your new at this keep the habit simple, if nothing else just to make it easier in the long run.

I’m far from an audiophile though esp when it comes to music listening and or say a quality 2 channel setup with some heritage speakers and nice tube setup would be something id love to get into in the future. Im more of a casual listener when it comes to music. When I watch film I find myself to be much more critical over what is being represented and how it is appropriately playing the way a director intended it to be enjoyed. More often than not if a film was done in mono or has mono tracks, or stereo tracks etc I prefer to watch it that way but I certainly enjoy popping in a modern mixed blu-ray. I have a lot to learn in 2 channel listening and read the posts in 2 channel all the time

While having my second cup and listening to the words to Tommy by The Who on CNBC I wondered if the words would have to be altered to reflect the zeitgeist or politically correct environment of today? The line "that deaf, dumb, and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball"......would that now read "that hearing impaired, vocally challenged, visually impaired adolescent sure plays an aggressive pinball and always shares with his team mates". Doesn't really roll off the tongue now does it? X 2

actually very nice...klipsch indeed.

Old guy..... Centers and Subs are cool. But just saying that I have been working 30+ years to get the first two channels "right". When I get there I will think about multiple channels. tc

The "L"....yeah I know I need to clean out those gutters!

and now he is down the rabbit hole.........

It may be spring if.........