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  1. Thinking of adding some square footage to LF's music room. The music room at my house is about right for me but I'm rarely there. LF's room is about 13'x14' and I'm thinking about making it 13'x24'. Thinking no more than $30,000. Would be moving one of the two systems at my place to LF's place when complete. Worth while? Considerations?
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  2. RIP Mr. Baker. I’ll have some Cream with my coffee this morning.
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  3. Here is a photo of one of my Australian Native stingless bees I have a couple of hives in my back garden
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  4. This album came out in 1983 - one year after I was married 💎 An addictive album with a signature sound Artist - Huey Lewis And The News Title - Sports
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  5. Along with the chicken's neck (which my Dad and I fought over) we also chewed and sucked on the feet. That was a very long time ago. Sound's yucky now but food was short and it tasted good. Nine in the family-nothing was wasted.
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  6. Update Refinished wood and new cane style grills..Added ct120 tweeters 55G mids and A crossovers I may upgrade the crossovers down the line just didnt have anymore big bucks to spend on it at the moment. Driving them with A Scott 340A sounded very nice I feel like I gave them new life they were pretty ratty when I got them.
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  7. RIP! Time to listen to wheels of fire!
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  8. Along the forest road there's hundreds of cars, luxury cars Each has got its load of convertible bars, cutlery cars, super scars For today is the day when they sort it out, sort it out 'Cause they disagree on a gangland boundary They disagree on a gangland boundary There's Willy Wright and his boys, one helluva noise That's @Billybob's boys with fully-fashioned mugs That's little John's thugs, the Barking slugs, super smugs For today is the day when they sort it out, sort it out Yes, these Christian soldiers fight to protect the poor East end heroes got to score in the battle of Epping forest Yes, it's the battle of Epping forest right outside your door And you ain't seen nothing like it No, you ain't seen nothing like it Not since the civil war Comin' over the hill are the boys of Bill And @John j's lads stand very still With the thumpires shout, they all start to clout There's no guns in this gentleman's bout And Georgie moves in on the outside left With a chain flying round his head And Harold Demure, from art literature Nips up the nearest tree, here come the cavalry Amidst the battle roar, accountants keep the score, 10-4 They've never been alone, after getting a radiophone The bluebells are ringing for sweet meal Sam, real ham Handin' out bread and jam just like any picnic, picnic, picnic, picnic It's 5 to 4 on William Wright, he made his pile on derby night When @Billybobs was a kid walking the streets, the other kids hid, so they did And now after workin' hard in security trade, he's got it made The shops that need aid are those that haven't paid "I do my double-show quick" Said Mick the prick, fresh out the Nick "I sold cheap holiday, the minute they leave Then a visit I pay an' does it pay" His friend, @fullrange by name, of wine, women and Wandsworth fame Said, "I'm breaking the legs of the bastard that got me framed" I'm breaking the legs of the bastard that got me framed, got me framed They called me the reverend when I entered the church unstained My employers have changed but the name has remained All began when I went on a tour, hoping to find some furniture I followed a sign, it said, 'Beautiful Chest" It led to a lady who showed me her best She was taken by surprise when I quickly closed my eyes So she rang the bell, and quick as hell @billyBob the nob, came out on his job to see what the trouble was "Louise, is the reverend hard to please? " "You're telling me!" "Perhaps, sir, if its not too late We could interest you in our old-fashioned Staffirdshire? " "Oh no, not me, I'm a man of repute" But the @dirtmudd caught hold of my soul and a voice called out "Shoot!" To save my steeple, I visited people For this I'd gone when I met little Johnj His name came, I understood When the judge said, "You're a robbing hood" He told me of his strange foundation Conceived on sight of the Woodstock nation He'd had to hide his reputation When poor, 'twas salvation from door to door But now, with a pin-up guru every week It was love, peace and truth incorporated for all who seek He employed me as a karma-ma-mechanic, with overall charms His hands were then fit to receive, receive alms That's why we're in the battle of Epping forest Yes, it's the battle of Epping forest Right outside your door We guard your souls for peanuts And we guard your shops and houses For just a little more, just a little more In with a left hook is the bethnal green butcher But hes countered on the right by @oldtimer chain-gang fight And Liquid Len, with his smashed bottle men Is lobbing @billyBob the nob across the gob With his kisser in a mess, Bob seems under stress But Jones the jug hits Len right in the mug And Harold Demure, who's still not quite sure Fires acorns from out of his sling, here come the cavalry Up, up above the crowd Inside their silver cloud, done proud The bold and brazen brass, seen darkly through the glass The butlers got jam on his rolls, Roy Doles out the lot With tea from a silver pot just like any picnic, picnic, picnic, picnic Along the forest road, its the end of the day And the clouds roll away Each has got its load, they'll come out for the count At the breakin' of day When the limos return for their final review, it's all through All they can see is the morning goo "There's no one left alive, must be a draw" So the black cap barons toss a coin to settle the score
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  9. Make sure you turn it up !
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  10. Whether in heaven or hell this guy is gonna be hard to manage................
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  11. Seems like we both need adult supervision when handling said volume knob, or the + button on my Yamaha remote, in my case! LOL.
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  13. I've been enjoying his solo work after coming across it via RTM just a couple years ago. Only learned just now that he was the drummer from Cream.
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  15. It will be interesting to see how Wisconsin does against OSU in a few weeks. I expect MSU to fare no better against the Badgers next week than they did against the Buckeyes yesterday. Seems to me the top 3 B1G teams, in order, are: 1. OSU; 2. Wisconsin; and 3. PSU. Unfortunately, as @Pete H says, the B1G teams will beat up on each other, while Notre Dame beats up on Bowling Green and and other teams that are not likely to win their respective conferences. Beating Va. Tech, Michigan, USC, BC, Navy, and Stanford is not the same as winning a Power 5 conference championship. Not to mention Brian Kelly is extremely annoying. I will root against each team playing ND, even the Wolverines, so that one of the four playoff spots is not again wasted on ND.
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  16. that's how my "sauce" is. 2 cans of diced tomato, 1 can sauce. Diced onion... peppers, mushrooms, whatever strikes my fancy point is, there are recognizable chunks of "stuff". mom used whole stewed tomatoes and crushed them. These diced work fine for me. If I was working with "real" tomato, things would be done differently
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  17. that pitch looks like something I wouldn't try.... I'm not a thrill seeker.... got over that before I broke myself. I used to climb windmills at my buddy's ranch. Get all slimy in gearbox lube and climb back down the metal rungs. I didn't "ride" herd.I don't trust horses. Big and squirrelly. They can be your best friend, or kill you as fast
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  18. Real Genuine crazy Jack Russell she was actually looking out the window for something to bark at...lol
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  19. Morgan and I rewatched TNG last year from start to finish over the course of a couple months. We've also been watching the new seasons of Discovery, and absolutely looking forward to Picard. We keep trying to get the motivation for DS9 and the other series'. Then we've also watched the 2005+ Doctor Who, modern Battlestar Galactica, The Expanse, and so on. She's not even a sci-fi nerd, but she ends up watching these with me and really enjoying them.
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  20. Yeah ... remember travelling to Taiwan in the early 70's and eating chicken wings. Was a delicacy there ... took at least another 10 years to become mainstream in the US
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  21. What part of leverage to the outside versus force to the center is confusing? Look at it the opposite way. If it were set up opposite the pull would be to the center of the lp. That is the reverse of what is attempted to be accomplished.
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  22. A better picture of Big Jake on the day of his rescue.
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  23. Speakers have been sold. The proud new owner now has a quad of matching 1984 HBR's in a Tung Oil finish. Who woulda thunk, and he was local...
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  24. I don't have a reliable SPL meter however my neighbours 11 yo grandson tells me he can hear it in every room in their house that sits 75 yards away.
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  25. When you are pushing the limits of the room with gear on tap, I certainly explore the system for a track or two here and there. If you give me a Ferrari, I am NOT going to drive the speed limit. Sorry, can't help it.
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  26. Sucks to read this! TOTALLY! So many great people are gone. Nice drum solo on side 2 of Blind Faith so yes it WILL be cranked! See you in the other side killer! Rest then we'll ALL go again! 🖖
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  27. Well a DB meter and a great set of 34db ear muffs will allow for safe testing. Works for Tanerite too at the front yard gun range. You do have one don't you?
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  28. Not necessarily a note....subs such as what Chris A sports will move some SERIOUS air.
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  29. I am a SS person, no special reason, convenience maby, but I have to say I tried an old Yamaha avr, a Rx V730. When I switched to a different avr it was a huge difference I did not expect. I liked the Yamaha and it did fine for HT but for 2 ch it was not great, I didn't know until I tried a different avr. ' I would bet your going to like the change, what your going to use is way better than the old yamaha, unless it's one of the better ones or I never had a good version ? I can say something in between the two your going to try and it would sound amazing, a old HK 2 ch receiver, anything in the twin powered type, Hk 930, 730 or 430. I have a 930 and It has sounded great on any speaker it's been tried on here. .
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  30. Well I am going for something capable of much more output and bass than that with great fidelity as well. Time will tell if the experiment will do it but I am pretty sure it will. Oh and by the way it is 25mm Baltic Birch through and though as this is a glued sawdust free shop. In Nashville there are tons of custom speakers being built I guess and 5' x 5' x 25mm runs $48 per sheet with tax. Three sheets will be used for this pair.
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  31. an older friend of mine was an actor and he did a short stint on the original star trek series. he later became a lawyer and i knew him during that phase of his life. Really cool guy.
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  32. For those of you living under a rock.. this just dropped today.
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  33. Basic looks awesome with La Scalas IMO - accents an already very sculptural speaker! So. No, not sold. I traded them for a like new pair of Chorus IIs. From a historical and I suppose somewhat emotional standpoint, the La Scalas win. I will say that the Chorus IIs are among the very best speakers I have ever heard, however. I really, really like them, and the pair I picked up in Phoenix (maybe you saw them on CL?) is in perfect condition.
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  34. Ya, you definitely don't want a class A amp. I really don't know what to recommend but what I can say is that the forte don't use power. My amp has a meter in the middle and I believe when it goes past the middle is when it goes into AB (at 10 watts). I have never seen the needle move past the 1/2 mark, or actually even come close to it. I cranked the fortes tonight until the meter started moving and it was loud and punchy and the woofers barely moved. I think will give out long before this speaker does. Personally I would not be afraid to try something lower powered. Have you tried the PS audio Sprout https://www.psaudio.com/products/sprout100-integrated-amplifier/ its a tiny integrated but should work well with the forte iii
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  35. How about the three feet? That bugged me more on mine. After I aligned the tonearm height & level, set weight, made sure it dropped in the right place I noticed it was dropping onto the LP at an angle so I moved it and it drops straight down. I moved it and it seemed better. Then double checked everything. Liked the way my old Yamaha tt had the dial on it better. That concerned me for a while but it sounds so good I let it go.
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  36. Steaming, blanching, whatever it takes.
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  37. Hello Vivek, Most SACD discs are “hybrid SACD”, meaning that they contain 2 layers: a Redbook CD layer, and an SACD layer. (A very few older SACDs have only an SACD layer.) The SACD layer has copy protection features. As a result, you cannot play the SACD layer on a PC, or copy the SACD layer. (You can play the CD layer of a hybrid SACD on a PC, and you can copy the CD layer.) Almost all disc players have copy protection features that affect playing SACDs via outboard DACs. Moreover, there are sometimes bandwidth limitations associated with a disc player connecting an outboard DAC. For example, following is an excerpt from the User Manual of my Oppo UDP-205 universal player: Due to bandwidth limitations, high resolution audio formats such as Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD High Resolution and DTS-HD Master Audio cannot be sent through the coaxial or optical digital audio output. A reduced resolution version of the same audio track will be output instead. To listen to high resolution audio formats in their best quality, please use the HDMI connection if you have a receiver that handles HDMI audio (see page 12) or use the multi-channel analog outputs if you do not (see page 15). Due to copyright restrictions, SACD audio cannot be sent through the coaxial or optical digital audio output. To listen to SACDs, please use the HDMI or analog audio connections. Due to copyright restrictions and bandwidth limitations, full resolution audio from DVD-Audio discs cannot be sent through the coaxial or optical digital audio output. To listen to DVDAudio in full resolution, please use the HDMI or analog audio connections. The important takeaway is the difference in the capabilities of an HDMI interface vs. TOSLINK and coax. My understanding (bearing in mind that I’m not an expert) is that if you want a universal disc player, and an outboard stand-alone DAC, and you want to play SACD and Blu-ray, you’ll need a DAC with an HDMI interface. (McIntosh has a proprietary solution for their products.) Examples of HDMI DACs that I’m aware of include the Essence Evolve II-4K, which is a HDMI v2.0a Multi-Channel Audio DAC. And, the Bryston BDA-3 External DAC, which includes an HDMI input – but only supports stereo. (I have no experience with these DACs, and I’m not certain of the formats they support. And I have no experience with their sound quality. There are undoubtedly other choices.) (There are a few stereo HDMI “network receivers“ (aka “stereo AVR”) – but they are probably not what you’re looking for, considering that you didn’t like the AVR you had: Onkyo TX-8270, Pioneer SX-S30, Denon DRA-800H, Marantz NR1200. FWIW, Marantz solid-state amps sometimes have a reputation for a more musical sound compared with Onkyo – but I have no personal experience.) OTOH, over the last few years I’ve chosen universal players with built-on “audiophile-grade” DACs (for reasons I’ll discuss below) because I enjoy modern hi-res classical recordings. The relevance of hi-res audio formats (e.g., SACD, Pure Audio Blu-ray, DVD-Audio, 24bit/192kHz download), and audio/video formats (e.g., Blu-ray, Ultra HD Blu-ray) depends on the genre of music. That’s why I suggested that “Step 1” should be to shop for recordings. For the classical music that I love, all of the state-of-the-art hi-res audio, and audio/video formats are relevant, because there are modern performances of most classical compositions. And modern performances (i.e., in the last 15 years or so) were almost always captured and mastered in hi-res (i.e., 24bit/192kHz PCM, or DSD). Moreover, most modern classical recordings are made available to the consumer in a hi-res format. Many of my favorite classical recordings feature audio/video and surround-sound, and are only available on a disc (i.e., not available via streaming or download). IME/IMO the experience provided by Blu-ray is vastly superior to the experience of listening to a CD. Blu-ray audio/video is indispensable for visual art forms such as opera and ballet, and IMO very enjoyable for orchestral music - i.e., watching the conductor and musicians, and seeing the symphony hall. Blu-ray excels at conveying the beauty of this concert hall: https://www.musikverein.at/en/der-grosse-musikvereinssaal (And believe it or not, there are classical musicians who are enjoyable to watch. I suggest watching a YouTube video of Khatia Buniatishvili playing piano., and Elīna Garanča and Anna Netrebko sing. Now imagine that in Blu-ray quality.) There have been a lot of advances since the CD became available 37 years ago. Each audiophile must decide whether these advances are relevant to the music they love. For me the decision is clear: I want Blu-ray or Ultra HD Blu-ray recordings of the music I love. My second choices are Pure Audio Blu-ray and SACD that feature surround-sound. My third choice is hi-res (e.g., 24bit/192kHz) stereo download. IMO a classical music lover would be foolish to buy a player that only plays the 30+ year-old Redbook CD format, given the wealth of modern hi-res recordings available (including audio/video and multi-channel recordings). I listen to an entire symphony or opera at a time, so “convenient access” and “random shuffle” aren’t important features for me. (I don’t listen to the first movement of Beethoven Symphony 2, followed by the fourth movement of Mahler Symphony 9, followed by …) Loading a disc into the tray once every hour or so is not an inconvenience for me. The process of dropping a disc into the tray is simple, and reliable, and hassle-free (e.g., no apps freezing). Therefore, I require a “universal player” that will play ALL audio and audio/video formats: Ultra HD Blu-ray, Blu-ray, Pure Audio Blu-ray, SACD, 24bit/192kHz download, DVD, and CD. The Oppo UDP-205 has top-of-the-line DACs built-in, and I’m happy with its performance. IME/IMO, top-quality modern hi-res classical recordings played via my Oppo UDP-205 (and BDP-105 and BDP-95) sound fabulous when played via my tube amps and Klipsch speakers. Because the Oppo UDP-205 is connected to an HDTV, during playback useful information is displayed on the screen, such as volume level, track #, etc. (And when playing an opera on Blu-ray, the libretto can be displayed on the screen, which is extremely useful.) The HDTV screen can easily be “blanked” (i.e., black) via the “Pure Audio” button on the Oppo’s remote control. (I think of this feature like a “video mute” button.) And the UDP-205 has a parameter for volume setting upon power-on (i.e., either a user specified fixed value, or the last value). This feature eliminates the possibility of accidentally having the volume set extremely loud when the unit is turned on. (This is important if you alternate between classical and pop recordings, because pop recordings are typically mastered MUCH louder than the average volume level in classical recordings.) And there is a parameter setting for the maximum volume level. The UDP-205’s implementation of volume control is more convenient IMO than trying to guess from the listening chair where the volume control is set on a pre-amp. And IMO being able to see information about the recording (e.g., track #) on the HDTV screen is easier than trying to see the small display on a CD player. Because I enjoy classical orchestral music, opera, and ballet Blu-ray audio/video recordings, I see no distinction between a “hi-fi system” and a “home theater system”. The Oppo units provide capabilities that are essential to me: analog audio connections (stereo, 2.1, 5.1, 7.1) for my vintage tube amps and subwoofers, and the Oppo units provide variable audio output. And ultra HD video. Maybe someday all classical recordings will be available via streaming and download, including hi-res video and surround-sound audio. And maybe someday streaming and download services will provide the best available quality. Today, Blu-ray discs, and the Oppo UDP-205, suit my needs best. However, I recognize that my tastes in music, and my audio/video requirements are unique. Some people listen exclusively to vintage audio-only recordings. For music that was recorded decades ago, the audio quality is limited by decades-old recording technology. In some cases, a high-quality analog master tape from decades ago has been digitized at hi-res with good results, and made available as an SACD, or hi-res download. Similarly, some older movies were recorded on large-format film, and can be digitized and delivered on Blu-ray with good results. OTOH, early digital recordings (audio and video) might not benefit as much from re-mastering – but that’s a generalization – and I’m not an expert on mastering recordings. My experience is that modern recordings (audio and video) generally have the best audio and video quality. If all of the music you like is available as a download in the best available audio quality (whether that’s 16bit/44.1kHz or 24bit/192kHz or DSD), then you may not need a disc player. I suggest that you search HDTracks. com for downloads. Some HDTracks downloads are “CD quality” (16bit/44.1kHz), and some are higher resolution (e.g., 24bit/96kHz or 24bit/192kHz). Provenance of the recording is important – garbage-in/garbage-out - you can’t make a silk purse from a sow’s ear – in other words a poor-quality recording can’t be magically transformed just by delivering it in a hi-res container. (If you pour a gallon of milk into a 55-gallon drum, it’s still only a gallon of milk.) Some people employ “hacking” to get around the copy protections on SACDs. You can google this topic for details. (As far as I’m concerned, this is a somewhat complex process that appeals to PC hobbyists.) Reportedly the process to copy Blu-ray discs is not as complex. Copying all disc types (CD, SACD, Blu-ray) requires an investment of time and money by the audiophile. Some think the effort is worth it, some don’t. (Some people like to choose individual songs, and build playlists, and don’t want to load a different disc for each 3-minute song, and value having all music on NAS.) My understanding – but I have no experience - is that once hi-res files are loaded on NAS (via download or copying discs), then an appropriate DAC can play any hi-res format. That DAC can be stand-alone, or built into another appliance, such as a disc player, pre-amp, or integrated amp. (Some like a stand-alone DAC for upgrade flexibility, some like all-in-one approach with a DAC built into an integrated amp or receiver, thereby minimizing the number of components, and interconnect cables, and associated integration efforts.) I recognize that people enjoy the hobby of hi-fi differently. I respect the fact that some people enjoy the process of “hacking” software, and copying discs, and building a system based on NAS storage. However, this is not how I choose to spend my time. To each their own. As I said earlier, I suggest these steps: Shop for recordings, and determine which formats for consumer deliverables are relevant to the music that you like. (The audio quality of your hi-fi system will be limited by the quality of the recordings, so I suggest that you focus a lot of your effort on seeking the best quality recordings for the music you like.) Once you know which recording formats must be supported, then you can decide on a compatible player(s). (For example, you might want a turntable for LPs, a universal disc player, and a way to play internet radio and Spotify Premium.) Once you’ve selected a player(s), then you can decide on an amp that is a good match for the player(s). Because your Klipsch Forte III are relatively sensitive (99dB), you won’t need a lot of power. Different audiophiles will reach different conclusions based on the music they like, their budget, and their preferences: The Oppo UDP-205 universal player is the best solution for me. I also own BDP-105 and BDP-95, which are good products that play all disc types except Ultra HD Blu-ray. (Unfortunately, Oppo no longer manufactures products. If you can buy a used UDP-205, BDP-105 or BDP-95 for a reasonable price, that’s something you might consider.) Another audiophile who wants a universal disc player, and needs analog audio connections for stereo (i.e., 2 channel) only, might choose a Sony ES UBP-X1100ES player (or older and cheaper UBP-X1000ES). (I have no experience with this player, but have read positive comments on another forum about its audio quality. Given that you aren’t interested in multi-channel, the Sony ES UBP-X1100ES may be a good choice, if you want the most flexibility in choosing disc formats. You’d need a pre-amp (or integrated amp) for a volume control, subwoofer connection, and tone controls.) Another audiophile might build a solution around the Essence Evolve II-4K, which is a HDMI v2.0a Multi-Channel Audio DAC. Or, the Bryston BDA-3 External DAC, which includes an HDMI input, but is stereo only. I don't know if there are other stand-alone DACs that support HDMI. (I have no experience with these DACs, and I’m not certain of the formats they support. And I have no experience with their sound quality.) Another audiophile who only wants to play CDs (no SACD or Blu-ray), plus stream hi-res files from NAS, and support services like Spotify Premium, might choose something like the Marantz ND8006 CD player / music streamer, and employ its variable analog audio output to directly drive a power amp. This player also has (2) optical inputs, plus coaxial and USB type B digital inputs. (I have no experience with this player.) Another audiophile who only wants to stream from NAS and services like Spotify Premium, might choose something like Bluesound Node 2i, or Bluesound Vault 2i which provides a CD ripper and 2TB of storage. These units have a mono RCA subwoofer output. (I have no experience with this player.) John Q. Public (and some audiophiles) will choose an AVR, whether stereo or multi-channel, that has HDMI inputs, and can support all formats. I’m certain there are many other types of solutions. The options can be bewildering. Regarding amps, if you get a Luxman CL-38uC pre-amp, or LX-380 integrated amp, I’ll be jealous. I’ve never owned any of the Luxman tube gear. (I collect US tube amps.) IMO these Luxman units are very handsome, and have a good reputation. FWIW, I also think the McIntosh C22 and C70 are very handsome pre-amps that could be paired with an MC275. Is McIntosh gear available in India? Any of these products would be an investment that is “heirloom quality”, and be a great complement to your Klipsch Forte III. (Both manufacturers also offer solid-state amps.) FWIW, following are links to a few of my other posts that might be relevant for someone who is new to this discussion: I’ll stop rambling for now. Tonight, I’m attending the first performance of my local symphony’s 2019/2020 season, and I need to prepare to attend dinner with family and friends, and then the concert. I’m looking forward to it. I hope this helps, rather than confuses. Hopefully others will join the conversation, and share their experience. Some people are far more knowledgeable than me about stand-alone DACs, and NAS-based solutions.
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  38. This album is timeless for its beauty Recorded when this artist was 20 years old, and first released in 1961 Artist - Joan Baez Title - Volume 2 ( Self Titled ) This album is a remastered reissue On Vanguard VSD-2097 US release 1987
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  39. OK; did a "preliminary" test at 95dB's ... Kooper, Stills, Bloomfield's "Super Session" ... can't wait till tomorrow ... margaritas and 120++ dB's
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  40. Yes, and a level of 85 dB for a "loud" passage (even though some, like Keele, Jr., consider 85 dB "medium level," rather than "loud")* allows for instantaneous peaks 20 dB higher, @105 dB, just as THX and Dolby specified. Theater tests of The Empire Strikes Back at standard level (for THX), from wherever their standard mic positions were, produced brief peaks of 108 db, and 110 dB in the deep bass. How long would the leading edges of these peaks last? At from 2 ms to about 500 ms, it would take quite a large number of peaks quite a while, with all those peaks crammed together cheek by jowl, to add up to a figure of 15 minutes (or so) for 115 dB; if the new standard is consistently 5 dB lower (I haven't found it online), I assume that would be 110 dB for 15 minutes (??). OSHA is looking at Industrial Noise, not music, and looks at "continuous" in the sense the sound from a machine might be continuous (not continuous the way a steady tone would be), i.e., time weighted averages, putting the limit at 110 dB for, say, 15 minutes. Orchestral music is not continuous in the steady tone sense, but may resemble, during loud passages, a time weighted average of machine noise. Rock or electronic music, with sustained electrical guitar tones may require lower levels to be safe. The absolute limit for impulsive or impact noise is 140 dB. This surprises me; I would expect a pulse at this level would cause temporary (or permanent) hearing loss, or ringing in the ears. How loud is a gunshot when it occurs at arms length? I know of a case in which a guy drove through the hills, firing his gun out of the car while drunk. His aim was unreliable, so he shot the mast on the side of the front window. He got his hearing back after several hours. Another thought: A highly distorted signal might reach the "I can't stand it any louder" level at a lower true SPL than an only moderately distorted signal, which might get to that hard to take loudness at a lower SPL than would a signal with hardly any distortion. Loudness, after all, is a perceptual/psychological phenomenon, while SPL is a physical characteristic. *Dope from Hope Vol. 16, No. 1, January 1977
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  41. So you didn't hear that gunshot....
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  42. OK, but you asked for a demo, so you guys all got several. You were all smiling, as I recall. I hope it's "low distortion ringing." LOL.
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  43. I agree with this. OSHA standards have been lowered from a 90 db max. down to 85 foro 8 hour exposure. When the amplitude goes up by 3 db, you have to cut the time in half. Otherwise, there WILL BE HEARING DAMAGE. Much like PWK, who lived to be almost 100, I want to keep my hearing as long as I can. I only crank it up for short demos, because I can. Besides. keeping things at about 83 db, the modern standard, will give you plenty of enjoyment, lower distortion, and no fatigue.
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  44. What I made today will be hanging lights, 7 and they will hang close to the ceiling above a counter area just to add more light, it will be 60w equivalent but LED's on a dimmer so it can be turned down. This little bulb socket goes in the PVC and will be wired in line with all the rest, one line one dimmer.
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  45. A deal is out there if you are patient. The Phoenix/Tucson area does not seem to have a large amount of Klipsch Heritage speakers available, unlike say, Chicago. I spent eight months looking for a set of ForteII when I found a set of '78 la Scala. They came with Crites updates (crossovers and tweeters). The cabinets had some previous damage, but were well refinished. At $1200 they were not a "bargain" but were a fair price. In the past few years I have seen some minty sets in the $1800-$2400 range, and some distressed sets for under a grand. Depending on your price range, patience, and refinishing skills, you should find success. I am very pleased with the sound of my set.
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  46. I, too, have an awesome wife, who is my best friend, who loves the looks and sound of our Klipschorns. We built our Music Room and Home Theater together, and she built us a bunch of diffusors. We had our 44th wedding anniversary 3 days ago. What kind of music do the spiders like?
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  47. No problem I paid 900.00 found them on ebay they were 1300.00 buy it now or make offer I offered 900 they were 15 mins from my house so it was an easy decision. Welcome to the Klipsch Forums. Wow, you did good, twice! Khorns in Good condition average $2177. In Average/poor condition it's $1433. +++ I track Heritage prices and I'd like to add your purchase to the spreadsheet. May I ask where you got these?
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