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While not a huge PF fan I've got 4-5 LPs. This was so over played growing up I never went looking for a good copy these last 15+ years. Picked this up to round out free shipping. It sounds wonderful. Very quiet so far into side 1. Excellent imaging. If you are looking for a good copy without scouring the four corners of the earth for the perfect copy this is a good place to start. Mother is hauntingly good.

Via The Onion, one of the best news sources......Congress allocates $500 million for funkier bass lines..... https://www.theonion.com/congress-allocates-500-million-for-development-of-funk-1819579171?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1BbvpBQ_uExv2m8_TltHmXPMSTLnTGEFnPYAQHnCA-cUHs1AFx-eXnNMo

I - O! NEVER A DOUBT! Mumbled a bit but that's normal. Second half? Ha Ha Ha! Hatin yet haters? ALL joking aside, OSU is gonna have to get healthy in 3 weeks and they're gonna have to take and PLAY their A game! Put those B1G pants on. Tonight was just a rematch w/a team we played a few weeks ago. We roll into that Natty we better be ready for both Clemson AND LSU. Their big, tenacious, and just plain nasty. They're also fast, fast, fast! LSU didn't play well the first half and Clemson is just Clemson. Joe Burrow is an incredible athlete, he can run well and he's smart. They're the total package. He's the Heisman winner imo. That team is LOADED as is Clemson. Clemson has prolly been the most physical team in the NCAA for the last 3 years. Dawgs on that D line, 6'6" QB who can sling it and a great back. Ya can't HATE anyone cause you're always gonna be behind your school. It's just a competitive spirit. Simple! Next year I might make a cake instead of cupcakes! 😂

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Probably less than the cats clawing through the cones. LOL

I finally decided to put some grills on the Chorus II passives to prevent damage to them from the cat. Ended up going with some Generic eBay 15" grills and earth magnets. Worked very well. Very clean look as well.

ahh... the name.is boots , baby

tarkus ELP

Would love to see an LSU vs. Ohio championship game. And would also love to see Joe Burrow kick their azz.

Translate that into English please?

From what I have read - this album would not have been released as new material was in the pipeline but egos and disagreements got in the way Even though this album release has old material it’s still timeless nonetheless Cover art was by Joni Mitchell Artist - Crosby Stills Nash & Young Title - So Far

vote wisely.

Eh, I've fired enough Military weapons in my life so keeping my old Match grade Colt 45 and an old military M 17 38. I've graduated I think so moving on. Old guys are verrrrrry sneaky yanno.

I’m sticking with some 70s English Rock & Roll Only have this album from this band but followed them via the radio Artist - Status Quo Title - Rocking All Over The World

Bengals: Again vying for the first or second pick..... meanwhile, some of the top choices are suddenly taking up sky diving, boat racing, knife throwing (where they are the target)... or various other dangerous hobbies in order to enjoy some of their life prior to getting lost in the abyss of Cincinnati.....

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The Buckeyes gave the Wolverines a bloody lip in their own house, the rest is just gravy to me. Go Bucks !!

Looks like your coach is emulating Dean Smith from the 80s. He would sand-bag until late in the game then beat the suckers that thought they might win!

A grille will change the sound characteristics on that passive near 0 %, as long as the cone does not hit it looks like a winner. Post a link to the purchase ?

I-O !!!

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Thanks so much for the info. Yeah, I’m a little leary if shipping big/heavy speakers not knowing how they’ll arrive. I also checked craigslist and couldn’t find any that are still available at the time. Thank you both though for replying!!

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I'm right with ya brother.

^^^ Nothing that cool! But I picked up some sweet little speakers. Grabbed these Mirage speakers at a local 2nd hand shop and matching stands for $60. I will likely paint the stands this summer as they aren’t in great shape but I am very happy with the purchase. I don’t have room for the Ultra2 650’s or 525’s that aren’t in use at the moment, due to the depth of both models. These Mirage speakers with the stands only stick out about 8” from the wall which works great for me and my room. I thought I was going to have to go Bose for a while.. I have owned some pretty cool surround speakers over the years but these might be my favorite. The sound is very spread out and what I would describe as accurate. Best $60 I have spent in quite some time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I love Genesis Mike And have all the listed albums - some X 2 copies

Bootsy Collins for president.

Baylor #7? They squeaked by WVU, and it took 3 overtimes plus some nice officiating to beat TCU, and that makes them a top ten powerhouse?

https://www.loudersound.com/features/buyer-s-guide-genesis Genesis: A guide to their best albums By Gary MacKenzie (Classic Rock) August 15, 2018 Classic Rock Overblown art-rock, mediocre AOR, or artistically redundant pop? We don our capes and peer through the dry ice to guide you through the best Genesis albums (Image credit: Getty Images) Advertisement ‘Gabriel – good, Collins – bad’ (or indeed vice versa) is a common sub-text in discussions between Genesis fans. That split view of Genesis’s music over the years is based mostly on the assumption that during each of those two frontmen’s respective eras with the band, Genesis’s music was rigidly delineated musically, and/or that the frontmen were always the chief architects of the band’s music at the time. But it’s a flawed premise that such an argument is based on. At all stages of the band’s career, all the members of Genesis contributed to the songwriting and arrangements, and the shift from Gabriel-led epics to Collins-fronted pop was neither instant nor as obvious as is often made out. Although Genesis came to epitomise the sound and character of British progressive rock – far more so than the deliberately abstruse eclecticism of King Crimson or the pastorally inclined, cod-mysticism of Yes – it’s worth recalling that that perception actually outlived for some considerable time Gabriel’s departure in 1975, and that their first real singles chart success was not some Collins-fronted 80s blockbuster but the typically quirky Gabriel-esque I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)... in ’74. Here, we present a brief history of Genesis, as told by their best albums. A Trick Of The Tail (Charisma, 1976) A masterful riposte to the nay-sayers in the immediate aftermath of Gabriel’s departure. From the muscular, deceptively complex opener Dance On A Volcano to the closing fusion-esque instrumental Los Endos, this album affirmed that Genesis were far from washed up artistically. Melodic ballads contrast with more rocky, character-based narratives, and while prog-heavy the record sounds more mainstream than its predecessors. A massively important record for the band, who with it effectively came out from the shadow cast by their ex-frontman Gabriel. Sadly, they never bettered it.VIEW DEAL Selling England By The Pound (Charisma, 1973) Gabriel is superlative, and the musicians apply themselves with controlled passion to an album which successfully celebrates, caricatures and comments on the nature of Britain and Britishness. Creating backdrops to diverse themes – gang violence (The Battle Of Epping Forest); ruminations on gender (Cinema Show); a supermarket price-list (Aisle Of Plenty) – extraordinary and gorgeous performances proliferate. The strength, consistency and exquisiteness of the material is enhanced by a crisp, rich production. A milestone of near-flawless prog rock, the album doesn’t have a single ugly sound. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (Charisma, 1974) A surreal adventure of a New York street kid, Rael, and a cast of decidedly strange characters, The Lamb… is the essential prog concept album. A structured, cleverly scripted set of connected songs performed by a band at the top of its game. A more contemporary lyrical feel contrasts with the bizarre storyline, and musically the shifting moods are captured perfectly. After punk, such records were savaged for their pomposity and portentousness. Yet art so well-crafted, entertaining and thoughtful needn’t apologise for itself. “If you think that it’s pretentious, you’ve been taken for a ride”… indeed.VIEW DEAL Foxtrot (Charisma, 1972) Supper’s Ready, the archetypal prog epic – 23 minutes of unabashed musical/lyrical acrobatics and allusions to the Book of Revelations and classical mythology (not to mention the flowers, geese, and “Winston Churchill dressed in drag”) – isn’t the only reason to buy Foxtrot. The album also includes two other Gabriel-era favourites: Watcher Of The Skies, with its dystopian future earth, and Get ‘Em Out By Friday, a sardonic commentary on corporate greed. Individual contributions are central to this album’s impact, Tony Banks’ Watcher…, his wonderful keyboard solo on Apocalypse In 9⁄8, and Steve Hackett’s solo guitar composition Horizons being evocative illustrations.VIEW DEAL Seconds Out (Charisma, 1977) With a polished, powerful and very accessible live celebration of both past glories and then-current material, Genesis demonstrate exactly why fans were flocking to see the band on stage. Collins’ voice smooths some of the quirky edges off older material, and Hackett, Banks and Rutherford turn in consummate and studied performances of everything from Supper’s Ready to Afterglow, ably assisted by drummer-for-hire Chester Thompson. Indeed, this is very much a drummer’s album, not least for the sole track from the ’76 tour (Cinema Show), on which Bill Bruford is joined by Collins in a jaw-dropping percussive backing to Banks’ showcase keyboard onslaught.VIEW DEAL Duke (Charisma, 1980) Genesis created something of a hybrid with Duke. As well as having moments of terrific energy and musical drama, the record was also the tipping point for the band’s enviable pop fortunes over the next decade. Alongside Turn It On Again and Misunderstanding (massive in America) are simplified beats and memorable hooks (and the vaguest whiff of mawkishness). Ignoring Genesis’s impact on 80s popular music would be churlish – the fact is that, whatever the zeitgeist may have been, they sliced through it with surgical precision. Those still hankering after a bygone age got a generally satisfying product, but the die had definitely been cast.VIEW DEAL Nursery Cryme (Charisma, 1971) This first album from the ‘classic’ Rutherford/Banks/Gabriel/Hackett/Collins line-up may sound dated now, but a growing level of unique invention was evident in timeless Genesis now-standards The Musical Box and The Return Of The Giant Hogweed. There’s terrific ensemble playing throughout, lyrical erudition and Gabriel’s dry wit. On Harold The Barrel, he skilfully weaves a tale of mental illness and suicide – a challenge that he pulls off with aplomb. An interest in mythology (an influence that can also be discerned in the band’s next three albums) finds expression in the proto-epic Fountain Of Salmacis, hinting at what was to come on Foxtrot.VIEW DEAL Genesis Live (Charisma, 1973) Released as a minor stop-gap while Genesis worked on Selling England By The Pound, this is a great sampler from the early years. The performances are spot-on and the stirring magic of the shows is evident. Collecting together live mainstays like Watcher Of The Skies, The Musical Box and The Knife, the album emphasises the surprising synergy between the five very young musicians – listen out for Steve Hackett’s often understated yet sublime guitar work, and the ever-unsung Mike Rutherford underpinning the band and adding sparkle with his undeniable skills as bassist and sometime 12-string guitarist. Shame there’s no Supper’s Ready though.VIEW DEAL Wind And Wuthering (Charisma, 1976) Wind And Wuthering posed a problem for Genesis: with the huge success they’d just had with Trick Of The Tail, how could they now capitalise on the momentum they had picked up via that album? In failing to come up with a suitable answer, they ended up producing a pleasantly atmospheric work that had real flashes of excitement and majesty (for example, in 11th Earl Of Mar, Wot Gorilla? and Blood On The Rooftops, the end of One For The Vine), but much of it is far too wistful and polite for its own good. This ‘Trick…- Lite’ album clearly failed to keep Steve Hackett engaged, and proved to be his final studio album with Genesis.

Probably get flamed, but that’s ok.

Probably the best they ever sounded!

There is a reason why the Khorn needs wider placement than a Jubilee: time misalignment of drivers. Khorns need to be farther away from the listener in order for their image to coalesce better into a whole because of their time misalignment between the tweeter and midrange, and the midrange to bass bin. Of course, you could also time-align (tri-amp) a Khorn and dramatically reduce the minimum listening distance. The only remaining issue is the vertical separation of tweeter/midrange/bass bin horn mouths, and the horizontal null between the horn mouths of the bass bin at higher frequencies (nearer the Khorn's 400 Hz crossover frequency) due to dual mouth diffraction of the bass bin. The Jub bass bin was specifically designed to minimize the distance between the bass bin horn mouths to minimize this issue--as documented by Roy and PWK in their 1999 JAES article on the subject. I've not moved my Jubs to a wider stance in-room, but note that I moved my listening position a little closer to the front wall (i.e., the minimum listening distance of the Jubs is much closer than stock Khorns), thus increasing the horizontal separation angle between them. I moved from about a 10 feet listening distance (3 m) to about 8 feet (2.4 m) a change in horizontal separation angle of ~48 degrees to about ~77 degrees. This was a good trade in my listening room. The sense of envelopment (LEV) apparent source width (ASW) increased substantially. You may have issues moving closer to the Jubs due to the room modes, e.g., being half way or a third of the way between the front and rear walls. The other thing that helped the Jubs was shortening down the K-402s (and the phase/group delay measurements confirmed what my ears heard). Chris

Going to be a fun day. 60 degrees and sunny. Pig Picking, shooting, a few beers by the Cape Fear River with 50 or so high school chums (all guys). Taking a 9mm, AR-15, and a new .22 single six Wrangler. A 45 minute ride into the boonies. Report to come..........

Not what I expected to see out of Utah, but that's why they play the games. Franklin gets a big contract extension at PSU , obviously I have not drank the same flavor kool aid that the administration did. Surprises me that it doesn't seem to be talked about much that PSU leads the nation in players that have entered the transfer portal and how that doesn't reflect negatively on the coaching staff. My brother and I watched an unprepared lethargic team play a rugby match with Rutgers last week and it was pitiful. I have little confidence that we can preform successfully against Oregon, if in fact, that's who we meet up with in January. I am looking forward to some great championship games today, especially the SEC championship game. Go LSU

Room EQ Wizard (REW) works for me. It does all that you've mentioned, plus a lot more. Here's a link to a thread where many of the different plots/measurement types are shown:-- here and here. You can also look at Omnimic if you want to buy everything as a package. Personally, I'd buy the calibrated USB microphone at miniDSP (UMIK-1). There are other packages available that you can pay for: ARTA, Acourate, etc. For me, I don't see any advantages of these tools over REW. Chris

Or just take it back and exchange it for one that works.

Walked a Christmas light setup. Quite the mix. Happened to get an interesting shot of my kids in front of a white board lit RGB. [emoji41] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The Klipsch/Pro website lists my speakers as surrounds, so I will need to place a pair in the back corners of the room.

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Someone mentioned YES? Got an original regular LP and a mfsl cd (mostly for the ride) and which do I go to the most? I've liked the Forte III sound since I got them. Hearing some of the big Heritage after that of course kinda ruined it for a little while, but there was a cure. That magical black box with the big driver, phase adjustment and adjustable hz cutoff points makes this record sing!!

While it's true the new tweeter is more robust and can easily handle being run first order, many of us who have spent a lot time going back forth, eventually decide that less overlap between the midrange and tweeter sounds better.

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Before you spend a wad of cash on that stuff use a tripod of softer rubber feet on the bottom of the cabinet. Even on a badly uneven floor a tripod sits flat unlike a square.