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Happy Friday folks. I've really got nothing to add here. 2021 is on the way... In 2021 I will continue to work 5 days a week... "I hope" In 2021 I will continue to drink coffee, tea, water and beer..."as long as money ""as we know it"" is still around" In 2021 I will continue to look forward to retirement..."if social security is still available" in 2021 I will continue to jam on tunes...

Factory built st70. Another el34 amp that is a reliable like an old friend. Does not have the crystal clarity of the fishers nor all of the thump but for most recordings it is just fine. I believe it is the best selling amp of all time. I bet everyone here has heard, if not owned one.

Check this out as well. The recording on spotify is a better quality to listen to on, but the video is good to watch.

I saw Ian and Co. live, three tours back then. In the wilds of western Canada. Aqualung, Benefit and Thick as a Brick. Benefit was by far my favorite. Here then:

Sounds reasonable. I will continue to be retired. I will continue to drink, Vodka, Scotch, and Bourbon. I will listen to tunes and be happy these old ears are still okay. I will begin down sizing my gear. I may start drawing money from the portfolio so I don't have to leave it to Carl.

I have a pair of these on my bench right now except mine are the 6v6 version.. I've just oredered can caps to replace the ones on top as there is no room underneath. I still have the console these came in and I am restoring for my wife as her stereo. It has JBL LE8 speakers. Now an old engineer told me these amps were built to make the speakers flat... If that is true I wonder what the bandwidth is and how we reverse the eq to use these elsewhere.

My friend is in a realtionship with his new Yamaha A-S1200. He is very enthusastic about how good it is. He's had is for several weeks now and plays it several hours a day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ampex 6973 monoblocks. Several years ago a friend was tasked with clearing out his late uncle's home. Kindly he asked me what I wanted, so I replied that cash, gold, firearms or vacuum tube amps would be nice. After I replaced all the caps and out of spec resistors I found that these amps sound fantastic!

I used to say, “Well, the system is complete now.” After the third time I said that, I resolved not to say it any more. That was years ago. Meanwhile, the system continues to evolve. The main speakers alone have gone through four versions of La Scalas with Jubilee tweeters, and last year I updated the tweeter drivers to the latest K-691s. This year I replaced the 400-watt subwoofer with a pair of 850-watt units, and the performance of the stereo jumped ahead another step. Now I just say that the system has reached a plateau that I really like. The current plateau is the best one yet. Now, when I turn on the stereo, it sounds great, but I no longer think to myself, “It’s great, but...”. It’s just great. Sure, I’m still experimenting with speaker positioning. At the moment, the main speakers have hardly any toe-in, and the sweet spot is the widest it has ever been. There’s likely no ultimate speaker position. As well, I’m going to swap the sofas between the sunroom and the living room, to put the most comfortable one where it will be used the most. It’s bigger and softer, so that will change the acoustics of the room. That means I’ll have to run ARC Genesis on the subs again, and then run YPAO on the whole system, but that’s fun, so I’m not complaining. Some audio fans are relaxers and some are tweakers, and tweakers vary from the every-other-day, to the once a week, to the once a month types. If you don’t tweak your system for more than a month, you’re probably a relaxer. There’s room for all of us, and the knowledge we share is one of the best parts of the hobby, from the actual pieces of hardware, to how to set those pieces, to the pieces of music that will sound great on them. It’s all fun, and I’m glad that you and I are all here on the Forum.

A B AB D T The world of trade offs on any engineering design With the Heritage - retro Klipsch the efficiency makes the A decision more affordable and a reasonable weight .5 watts on the LaScallas is screaming, 2 watts is unbearable in my space

Speaking of smokes.

Goats Head Soup? Sure why not give it a spin? Clean as a whistle! New covid mask but still trying to decide whether to frame it or wear it to jam night tomorrow night.. lol Maybe some lil hottie or oh well never mind... 😂 😎

Yes, and for sure, if you can get away you should come down. The place is huge. I can attest to that, but a friend would have carefully calculated the route and mileage, told me which side of the road it was on, look for the sign that isn't lighted, it's not on a red dirt road, you know, some useful information. Full disclosure, this has been the road trip from hell, which usually doesn't happen to me, so, here's how it went. Altered plans due to Beta and left a day later than expected, forgot to pick up @MookieStl and about 10 miles into Kentucky, pulled over in the rest area and started the bourbon search, called ahead and was told they had everything, including Weller 12 and it was only 5 miles away, but I had to exit off and head back North a few miles to get to the liquor store, no problem, except I'm dragging a trailer and thought I was going to rip the jack off (yes, I said jack off), because the parking lot was tiny and pretty big grade changes, but hell, they have Weller 12........................not, lying bastard$. Get back on the interstate, no big deal, but in the 15 minutes it took me, there was a major accident, just past the rest area I stopped at, 3 tractor trailers and 1.5 hrs later and I'm on the road again, but not going to make it to Memphis, so I'll push and at least make it to Nashville. I stopped at no less than 5 other liquor stores only to confirm that those bastard$ in KY that own the stores don't have actual bourbons that I'm looking for, and if they did, they charge 2,3, even 4x's the normal price................but one nice fellow let me know that the pappy and weller release was postponed until October and I could come back then, right, bastard$. It's all good, don't care and onto Nashville, where I try to rip the jack off a few more times because it's a poor design with horrible clearance, but they gave me a great deal, since mine hasn't been built yet and it's a rental, so, "drag it like you stole it". Get to the West side of Nashville, so I don't have to fight traffic in the morning and check into a Hampton, cause you know, if you stay there 100 times you get a free night stay next to a liquor store that might get the bourbon you're looking for and only charge you 4x's the price, anyway, I had pulled up the rate on my phone, $87, fine, same rate I'm paying in Hope but the girl behind the desk, must be related to the people that own KY liquor stores and lets me know, because I'm an honors member that she can get me a room, in the her fine hotel, that is 20% full, for a great rate of of $129, bitc*, out to get my phone because I had to show her the rate I pulled up minutes before, I did and she told me to get that rate, I need to book it on my phone and pay for it that way..........................bitc*, I said, "that's pretty stupid and I know you can do an exception and change it yourself" so $97 it was. LOL Yes, another paragraph, but I have to get all of this out now, although it's going to be better after bourbon for sure. I go to park "the rig", and of course, out of all the Hampton's I've stayed at over the years in 10 or more states, you can't pull around this one................the bastard$ put trees on the rear of the hotel instead and now, if not for my trailering prowess, a hole lot of swearing I get to back the thing out around corners because there was no other way. I'm out, great, then realizing I just over payed for a room that I might have to park 500 yards away and walk. I did get it maneuvered around and put it in so that nobody could be a dumb *** and park me in. ( one small success) Realize, I forgot my My Pillow, I'm really hungry so Waffle House and coffee sounded great................................didn't really sleep all that much, should have done Waffle House and bourbon. We're not done yet. Pulled up the weather this morning and found out that Beta decided to move a bit North than had been projected and seemed to put I-40 in the center of the rain from Hope to Nashville, great, I really wanted to go to Dave's and check out his gear (not junk), but this could be a long drive and if the rain gets to heavy, I'll just stop and get a room I thought, so back in the truck, and I'll check out a few liquor stores in the area and look for a specific Belle Meade that Carl sent me a picture of. I first went to Publix, right across the street, pretty flat and a big parking lot, great, except it's not a liquor store, just beer and wine......................yes, lying bastard$, but they did send me to a great store about a mile away that the prices were amazing, huge selection, except for anything that's made at Buffalo Trace, including Weller, but there it is, the Belle Meade that Carl said I should look for. Today, was going to be a great day indeed. Snapped a pic, sent it to Carl to show him the my score, and his text back, well it's close, fuc&! I should have looked a little closer at the picture, but hey, he also said it should be good, so still a decent day, and on the road I go. That's all for tonight, but there's more, much more. I'll finalize the adventure tomorrow when I realize someone stole the trailer with my gear in it. 9.30.2020 Part Deux: I get on the interstate, headed for Hope, with plenty of time to deal with a little rain and make it an easy day, it's about 10AM and I should easily get to Hope around 5 including stopping for gas ever 200 miles because the truck never gets great mileage, but you can hear it pumping through the injectors dragging a trailer. Light rain for about an hour, extremely heavy truck traffic with the usual idiots pissing with there phones, makeup, or reading a book (yes, observed a couple of them), but no big deal, and averaging about 72MPH, and then the rain gets heavy and steady so I decide to pull off, take a 15-20 minute break, gas up, get some food and walk around a little, so by the third non functioning gas pump (maneuvering around with the trailer from pump to pump) and going into the store, since none of them want to take my card properly, or reset to try again, I go in, hit the head and come out to a line of people that had to be 20 deep at the register, screw that, no food, no gas and don't care, I'm getting back on the road and have a 5 gallon container of gas in the bed of the truck, so I'm fine. Pouring and traffic still heavy, and I'm about 30 miles from Memphis and determined to hit the Arkansas line prior to stopping again...............that didn't work out as planned either. Through the pouring rain and massive amounts of spray coming off all the trucks, I can still make out the brake lights coming up, surely, this can't be another delay, but alas, another 1.5 hour stoppage due to an accident...............low fuel light has been on for a while, but still good, but I need to find an exit pretty quick.

Already done 3 sets now they work just fine and very easy to do-- maintaining Klipsch Tractrix design and saving myself $100 each time Not everyone has deep pockets my friend I initially looked for his on eBay but there was no option with the de-120 which is the driver I want to stick with I made a set for a friend of mine who really pushed me to look into this some more he cannot afford any upgrade really so I'm just trading his stock tweeters with Crites titanium straight across for a set of these I put together hoping to get at least half my money back on eBay.

sorry for your loss..

When I got them home from my big Ebay Heresy purchase -

Better yet, just get DaveA's sMAHL tweeter lenses with the DE-120. That driver has a rising response to compensate for the average old guy ears of Klipsch heads. Because I have similar hearing loss, why do you think I promote it? As for the "better bass," there's no such thing as Tubes with better bass than Solid State, different, but never as well controlled. I had an Aleph J, and it tops most everything else in sound quality. If bass is a problem, new speakers or subs should be part of the deal.

fyi... I have 3 folks interested. I've contacted everyone via message. I'll confirm sale asap.

@sunburnwilly Sorry for your loss man. The Goodbye song above is poingient and beautiful, even in another language.

50 pounds of dual rectified transformer coupled mono triode goodness. I went on a fisher binge 20 years ago. The signature of my sound remains the khorns and they sound their best coupled to these old amps. This the el34 version.

Correct, and the Yamaha S501 was a better match with my Heresy II than with his B&W. I sold him the S501 in this video and told him about the more muffled sound which he prefers. When I heard it on his B&W it sounded okay. IMO, it wasn't as good a match or as you guys would call synergy. So, I encouraged him on the S1200 because I believed it would have more detail and it did compared the the S501. I decided to bring my Dynakit over to his place to compare it to the S1200 and I could tell right away, from a relative perspective, it had more detail than the S501 but still had that same 2D presentation but just with more detail than the S501. It was like the tweeters finally started working on his speakers. Yes, it's a different room, but it's clearly obvious of that the modern Yamaha's have a more 2D sound. I would love to hear a vintage Yamaha equivalent instead. In fairness to others here though, my comments with regard to the OP tend to also be more of a SS vs tube discussion but for me, I'm happy that older vintage gear can sound so amazing.

The Mustangs are 3-1 so far this season. We might enjoy our first winning season ever!

Nelson Pass published a series of amplifier designs he called Zen's and those were the ones I were referring to. The culmination of the one output transistor ones is the Amp Camp that has become extremely popular. http://www.firstwatt.com/articles.html Just for reference though I have built the Decware Zen amplifier but I built mine from schematic and still have it. Very nice little amplifier.

Did you see that was shipped price? I assumed that was just local. I do love Milwaukee but that's a hike. I'd have to stop at @314carpenter to see a real setup on the way 😝

Hi ! Best song on the album about Mick Jagger's relationship with Carly Simon, I hope the track isn't "Banned" at Home... https://youtu.be/b1zgmM2lalo

My little sister Marge lost her battle with Cancer Monday 💔

Wow -------1560$ great deal for sure , was it used ? ---------these A-S1200 are closer to 2800$ -----

Another JT evening here with some very familiar tunes included! Bound like a book complete with several pages of pictures. @MicroMara It is hard for me to stop when I get started with particular groups

Retiring next week, so I should have some time to think it over and get figured out.

I have my Forte III's in a smaller-to medium sized office along with a smaller surround setup and I think they sound great. I know the room isn't the perfect listening room- but with a bit of room treatments it works well.

What I have are a pair of Klipschorns that I have painstaking modded with no expense spared below is a list up upgrades Volti 2” horns ALK-5800/ES400 crossovers with ES400 audience caps upgrades built by well know Mark from the forum BMS-4592nd midranges DE-120-8 tweeters with fastrac horns I ordered current model Klipsch badges ( Lascala II type) Western Electric approved 14ga wires I have owned many pairs of Klipschorns and these are by far the best sounding Klipschorns I have ever owned. I bought these from the estate of the original owner that listed them here .and they are a solid 8.5 condition with only very lite marks on the top that you have to look at with a light to see. I will post a picture of the fronts and if anyone wants more pictures I can email them. The sound of these speakers are crystal clear and solid deep bass.Sound great with single end triode,push pull tube amps and dynamic and lifelike with solid state.Must pick up in Sevierville,Tennessee

Found this in a Radio Maintenance magazine from 1951. Maynard

Pair in Tampa, 1500...black as sin.

I think fair price considering how much new ones are. With ALKs and original crossovers included more than fair. I would never sell mine but if I did I would have to have more than 3000 for them.

Asking for a friend? LOL Money is a stewardship responsibility. Give back to the owner of all things the first fruits of your labor (Tithe). Then give generously over an above the tithe in proportion to your ability. Be generous out of your abundance or your lack towards others and you will be blessed and you will initiate worship. Learn to delay gratification through contentment, and invest in your eternal future by leveraging your time, talents, and treasures today.

Very optimistic for sure.

One of my favorite NFL players. He was so smooth on the field, that full speed change of direction was a pleasure to watch. Him and Butkus were first team All Pro as rookies, that only happened twice, and 54 years apart. RIP, reunited with Brian Piccolo.

I was not entirely correct about A/B after some thought. The best analogy I have ever heard was by Nelson Pass. He compares it to two runners in a baton race. In class A one runner takes the baton and runs as fast as he can and never passes the baton. In class B the runner runs as fast as he can then stops then passes the baton and the other runner then he takes off. In other words the transistors cut on and off depending on when they have to go to work. In class A/B the runner with the baton runs as fast as he can then slows down and passes the baton at say a trot to the other runner at a trot and he takes off. Both the positive working transistor and the negative working transistor are biased some from complete off before running as fast as possible, at least at the operating function built into the design. In other words they never completely cut off when transferring the current or voltage. The speed at transfer of the baton is what is called bias of a transistor at idle. Below that point both transistors are working in Class A below that point. I hope this clarifies my understanding of the difference between A/AB/ and B. There are better descriptions on the web from people that have a much better understanding of the classes then I do. Wonderful we have youtube with very knowledgeable people describing the operation of electronic circuits. Great teachers.

With Stan Getz:

JT:

yes sir... I have a few Eyvind Earle Prints that are well over 100 separations/passes...

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/09/coronavirus-origins-misinformation-yan-report-fact-check-cvd/ Another visitation of the Yan paper to discredit her work. Specifically it casts doubt on her assertion that covid19 was manufactured or a manipulated version of a natural pathogen. And yet this same paper also states the fact that science still does not understand how covid19 jumped from its natural hosts into the human population. This, it claims, is the proverbial looking for a needle in the haystack..... and is an ongoing effort. The effort is China-centric because covid19 clearly presented in Wuhan China. The effort is ongoing because China has refused unfettered access for the work. Again my assertion is that the ‘Yan’ paper is a moot point. Whether covid19 was or was not ‘man-made’ it clearly has taken a highly suspicious pathway starting from Wuhan and now worldwide. Recall how aggressively China controlled their own population to contain covid19 whilst demanding open and free international travel from areas China knew to be covid19 infected. Countries that shut down travel from China were labeled xenophobic by China and others. And it is now clearly understood that this travel seeded covid19 around the world. So if China has nothing to hide then stop hiding it. Open up to the investigators. Give them free rein. Prove your innocence. Until we understand exactly what occurred with covid19 do not blithely absolve China. They have only their own interests in mind and often they’re not amicable towards most other countries.

I guess it was somewhat of a risk, but after reading all about them on this site and the reputation of Klipsch in general, I wasn't too worried. I did get a huge eyebrow raise from the wife, but once she heard them, she got it. I am sure that will apply to anyone else who hears them as well!

I am watching breaking bad Did you watch it?

Not sure. I have about 4K in there when you think soup to nuts. That’s the horns, finish work on horns, doubling baffle, cabinetry with extra time... not a usual way of building cabinets., 45deg braces, finishing, crossover, drivers. If you were just using a 2.5-3k multiplier you’d be at 12k for a pair. Now are these as good on the CW4... others would have to say. I think there are many compelling arguments both way. The CW is most certainly prettier, but this pair matches my super Heresy and my rack so it works for me. I like understated and so my black boxes are very easy to under estimate. With all that said, I have 4K in them not 12k so Is like to think it has been with the effort. mom addition to the over the top build. I got to pick the best parts I knew of. The CSW400 on paper may not be as good as my CSW450 but the lower order crossover is much more forgiving at lower volumes. For my size room and fridge this was a better choice. The DCM50s is one of the very best lower crossover point drivers without going Be... TAD os 3x the cost of the BMS. The BMS is so hard to get too. To answer the question differently. If I was asked to sell I wouldn’t consider unless it was 8K or something. Too much time invested to QC all the aspects of the build to get the level of execution I wanted. One last note. The FaitalPRO HF10AK is supposed to be amazing from friends that have used. If it’s the case I’ll replace the DE10 with it.

Look at this collective...

Fortunately, the rest of the world will continue to turn. There are always things that can be done, both small and large. I have no personal desire to stop learning via any self imposed stop-work orders. Interestingly, I'm not really a "driller" by nature (as the truly obsessive-compulsive fanatics used to be called during my sailboat racing days), but I always seem to find new things to do to improve the results...like anything else. I've found that when I learn about how to deal with little nagging issues that I hear, those little things often turn out to be big things, e.g., K-402-MEH, demastering music, phase-flattening crossovers and Jub configuration to achieve lower phase growth, controlling early reflections... ...and a myriad of other things not yet discussed. These make a big difference in sound when summed together, in my experience. And that's just over the past 5 years or so. What I listen to now has little resemblance (in terms of sound quality) to what I started with ~12 years ago with the arrival of the Jubs. Each time my wife mentions that she didn't think that the sound could get better, it gets better. There's no reason to believe this is going to stop in the near future. Perhaps the focus will shift to other subjects than just loudspeakers, room acoustics, and enjoying listening to music, etc. My own journey has been continuously disrupted by learning new things (whatever the subject). I hope to continue as long as possible. Chris