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We did get pretty cold back at sea level after an evening snorkeling with manta rays. It’s an amazing experience. I’ve included a few shots that were taken by a pro ocean photographer that went along with us and shared some of his photos.

I should post a pic of when we were together in the Philippines in early 2007... So... here we are in Manila in Feb, 2007 ... and she's definitely not my daughter.

Hey Pat. We were just there in late April so it wasn’t too cold - especially by Montana standards. We just wore multiple layers on the summit. It was a bit strange though packing warm clothes along with shorts, sandals, and tasteful Hawaiian shirts.

No words, just thought I’d post this pic.

Unless all of your music is recorded well, then tone controls are necessary. I have music that I like to listen to that is not recorded very well (I don’t use it for voicing by the way). And I have to use at least tone controls to make the music listenable and give it back some dynamic range.

Now THAT is a monster system. Congratulations! Now all you need are a matching single and sub for the ultimate 5.1 surround.

Those are some great images. One time, while diving off Palm Beach in Florida, my dive partner and I noticed a patch of sand on the sea bottom that was coloured a bit differently from the rest, so we took a closer look and could see that something was breathing there. At that point, the “something” seemed to realize that it’s cover was blown and decided to move somewhere else. It was an eagle ray, and it rose from the bottom with sand streaming off it. With fins added to the ends of my legs, I look about 7 feet long, and that was roughly the width of the ray, as we could see in the picture of me posing behind it. It was pretty cool to see the eagle ray rise up from the bottom, circle around once, and then fly out of sight into the distance, with less and less sand streaming off it as it cleaned up. It appeared that it had hidden itself by kicking up a big cloud of sand and then lying on the bottom, while the sand settled down on it. All the was visible was its eyes and breathing holes. Good plan, but to human eyes it was easy to see the area of sand that was just a slight shade different from the rest. So that’s the extent of my interactions with rays, except for an occasion when I visited a small aquarium in Northern Ireland, about 100 km south of Belfast. In the large central room, there was a big round tank with glass sides that were only about 4 feet tall and an open top. In the tank were a couple of little thornback rays, which are native to the area. One was about a foot across, while the other one was about a foot-and-a-half across. There was also a variety of sea life in the tank, and several visitors were standing around the tank, as well as me and my cousin, who lives there. I was amazed to see that the little rays were coming up to see the people. They went from one person to the next, to get petted! They came around to my cousin and me. It was kind of sweet to see their little faces come a few inches out of the water, and we petted them for a while, which seemed to make them happy. Their skin felt kind of like wet sandpaper, but not really scratchy. That was a little experience, but I still remember it more than thirty years later. Your encounter must have been magic. Were the rays more active at night? Were you able to touch them at all? That must have been a wonderful experience. Rays are so infèrent from us that you could think that they’re some kind of alien life form, but they like their food, and they like some human contact sometimes, so they’re not that different from us. Are the mantas all really big, or were they a variety of sizes? Enquiring minds like to know. Thanks for your patience in reading all this.

Thats kind of what we do here........

I found this over at one of the other audio forums. Please note that it is stamped "preliminary". As far as I understand things, availability and pricing are not yet set in stone. The rumor is that the price is high, possibly a bit more than 4x the cost of the current production Jubilee, however this includes the cosmetics and the DSP crossover. What is of note: 1) it is expensive, 2) the footprint is larger (no longer comparable to the current Jubilee or Klipschorn), 3) low frequency extends to a lower frequency (although no qualifiers are mentioned i.e., required placement or +/- values), 4) bass bin is a single woofer & is vented & horn loaded 5) Crossover point is lower, 5) new tweeter driver, 6) cosmetics are fairly industrial looking so it is compatible with some decors, but probably not the majority of living rooms. My personal view, it is probably best to withhold judgement until the product is finalized and actually shipping. Interesting times, -Tom

I have 1975 Cornwall in Good condition. Comes with original grills, recently treated with lemon oil. Sounds amazing! I bought this pair 2 months ago from a seller nearby for 950$ as it failed his WAF, selling for the same price. LocationL Baltimore, MD Serials 5N978, 5N979 Please refer to the pics below. I will share link to more photos privately upon request.

still in the honeymoon phase

The tone controls I have used at a minimum at home are at the preamp level. Remember I am old so I have a old Yamaha and others but I have also used the typical tone controls like on my onkyo. For re-recording songs that I really like I use mostly studio grade equipment. Mostly analog but these new dsp units and of course my old favorite, ev dx-38, sound very very good. The 4080 and some of the minidsp I play with have very good sounding filters/processing. The progress there has been very very good.

And properly executed digital EQ (whether in the form of tone controls, parameteric equalizer, graphic equalizer, or anything else) are so good that they put analog EQ to shame. The old arguments against equalization are rapidly disappearing, for good reason.

The coworker I mentioned a couple weeks ago sat next to me and ate lunch the day after he returned from his flight but before he exhibited symptoms. And I have yet to exhibit symptoms. I'd say the J&J serum is effective.

Ticks are what drove me to digital.

As PBS Passport members we were perusing the PBS channel through Roku and stumbled across the Classic Albums series. The making of many classic albums is covered in documentary format. We watched the episodes regarding No Secrets and The Plastic Ono Band. They were very interesting. There are many more. I strongly recommend the series. EDIT: 6/17/21 Apparently, the documentary series originated with the BBC, but is now available on several streaming platforms. We watch it on the PBS channel through ROKU. Our donation of $100 per year makes us “Passport” members with unlimited access to many excellent PBS offerings in addition to the Classic Albums series. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Albums The episodes about DSOTM and American Beauty were also very interesting. I look forward to enjoying more episodes.

I get the anti-tone control folks but well designed/implemented tone controls like what the Yamaha A-S1000 through A-S3200 have are really nice and the "best" I have ever used. Tiny adjustments really can make a difference(to me) without bloating or negatively transforming the character of the amp. Bill

Happy Birthday @Marvel---Bruce --

Happy Birthday Bruce!!!! Many more.

Lowered price, trying to sell ASAP Pair of Klipsch RF-83 AND RC-62 center in Black Recently moved and have no room for these speakers. Primarily used for theater sound, occasional music through A/V receiver. They have moved a few times and show some scuffs on veneer- mostly on back side. Grills are pretty nice with one small tear. 7/10 Center has some more wear on veneer on edges and grill also has tiny tear in cloth but barely noticeable. 7/10 Feet for towers are included and in good shape, just not on in pics. Center channel foot is NOT included, went missing. Asking $800 for all three speakers. Cash preferred Delivery in Balt/Wash metro area can be discussed. this is currently cross posted on Balt. Craigslist

@Deang Asked about measurements of this amp beyond the standard 1kHz. I was kind of surprised myself when I noticed that wasn't easy to come by, thus a few measurements of my unit that's a few years old and working perfectly. This is also for the crazy Frenchman that goes by @mustang_flht, has a picture of a Mustang for his avatar YET has a German sports car! : ) I only have two 4Ω power resistors (4Ω is my life), so I couldn't do two channel 8Ω measurements. 10Hz - 20kHz THD SMPTE IMD Single Tone Max Outputs at 1% THD (into 4Ω) God bless you and your precious family - Langston

I recently was gifted a mismatched pair of slant monitors. Cabinets are very solid. Handles are mismatched. Both terminal plates are missing. Both k77s have bad coils. One k55 has push terminals, one has soldered. One k55 coil is bad. HIE x-overs look physically ok. Both k42 (kp?) woofers are in good shape though. SIGH! My gifts are usually like this. My main setup has Heresy IIs and I love them. My question is what the heck to do with the components or rebuild the whole. I have built hundreds of enclosures and passive crossover networks in my career as an audio technician so I am not afraid of a project. From what I understand the woofers roll off pretty high. So maybe new ported enclosure? Bass bin like lascala? What do you think guys?

Having considered my options for quite some time now I finally decided to get a pair of Cornwalls in walnut. Walnut was actually the only option my dealer could offer at this point, next delivery from Klipsch is due in September (I’m in Europe). Hope they will look nice once they are in place. I’ve tried JBLs (L100 and 4349, both nice but not really great, preferred the latter) and Dynaudio Confidence 20s, and at the same time I’ve been reading about the Cornwalls but thought that maybe they are too big, maybe too bright? But according to what I’ve read, they seem like a very nice match for what I’m looking for in a speaker. So, only one way to find out! I would have preferred to audition a pair but my dealer even sold his demo pair due to high demand. Expectations are high (as is excitement), hopefully within a week or so, I’ll be able to finally enjoy the Cornwalls.

Hi, first post here.🙂 5 days ago got some klipsch Forte ii in very good condition.They sound lovely but Its my first horn speaker so i have some questions. 1 . How different is from iii and iv models? 2. Given that they are from the 90s how much life do they have in general for proper operation? Drivers crossover etc. 3. Placement : for the moment best placement is 8 feet (in my 12 feet wall) apart and just a little toe in, almost straigh ahead that gives a wide scene. About 19" from the back wall- I cant bring them closer than that because i have a bookself behind one speaker. Behind the passive woofer i took out books and records to provide almost an empty wall. Looking forward for your comments Thank you!

Well there eqing for the speaker and then there is eqing because the music is not recorded well. Actually, in the past, I used eq and expanders to bring some really bad cuts to life. But I would never use them to voice. The ref cuts I use to voice require no eq. They are recorded well and have very little compression.

Long story some tragedy but a lot of joy with the speaker it's like it dropped down out of the time machine it's as close to perfect as you can get I suspect it was built by a professional I see they used a Brad nailer and I believe in the 50s they didn't have electric ones so it was somebody with pneumatic tools. Joints are all perfect. If somebody here would like it I need to pass it on. I paid $850 for it I've never seen one even close to this condition for 30 years. 848HF compound coaxial, 15W, T35, X336. More pics on request. Never let your vinyl go, dijitteral is just that.

Oxymoron?

Opossums will take care of that problem. You do encourage them, right?

Hello mustang_flht, just a small remark, it does not seem to have heard that closing some of the vents made it possible to get more bass. It allowed me to further tighten the bass and not to go down lower in these. But I will still try what you specified

KG 3.5. I wanted them to have a present-day look and this is the outcome.

Not necessarily a fan of pretty pink flowers, but I am a fan of the subtle aroma and flavor profile of the chive plant. Always nice to have one or two within reach.

Here is a small but perhaps quite representative example of "audiophile engineering" in the outside world and "sensible engineering" in the inside world of a loudspeaker. The brand is quite reputable and very well known. It was simply the first image that appeared to me in a google search for "driver connection wiring". It could have been many other brands as well. I deliberately chose this example because the photos are public and even serve advertising. EDIT…It is not an advertising material but a review (even if it reads like advertising). Anyway I do not "expose" secrets. But the audiophile consumer only sees what he wants to see. The interest, the "half-knowledge" and the emotions control the view. Here is a photo that shows the inside of the box. The drivers are connected just like the oil pressure sensor on my car's wiring harness. This works and is perfectly ok for me also for a speaker. Here the speaker cable connection terminals to the amplifier are shown and described. The text says: „Van Den Hul cables are used throughout and to the rear are single wired WBT 710 Cu mC Next-Gen terminals“. My source. https://studioincar.co.uk/blogs/projects/dynaudio-heritage-special Let's be clear, everything is allowed, wonderful and all the more beautiful if it pleases the owners and stimulates the purchase. You should know for yourself where you stand. I even believe that these hifi products manufacturers are forced to serve audiophile half-knowledge, because otherwise it would be missed by many consumers. You can also buy 10 cm cable bridges for $600 to replace the contact plates of a biwiring connection. But that is the outside world. Inside the (very good) box, the same cables are in many high end speakers connected to the crossover with car plugs. Why? not only to save money but because it works. By the way, many engineers say that small connection surfaces conduct the signal much better than large surfaces. Gold-plated WBT plugs, as thick as two thumbs, may work electrically worse than small cable lugs. Compare the Mcintosh MC275 MK4 connectors with those of the MK5 (or later). What does the "audiophile" want to see and what makes more sense in my opinion (MK4). But who wants to sell must serve fashions, that's the way it is. MK4 MK5 and later. Shindo, one of the most expensive Japanese amplifier manufacturers One man company takes only screw terminals with small surface, as it is used for example in Klipsch AA crossovers or other types of that time or in the MC275 MK4 above and the original from the sixties also. I'm by no means saying everything doesn't matter and you don't have to worry about it. But there is a difference if it is technically useful or just to impress the eye. I am not accusing anything or anyone. I am interested in the phenomenon itself. I am not only curious about the emotional phenomenon. I also read technical books like this almost 25 years ago. https://www.tnt-audio.com/books/cable_cookbook_e.html Finally the sound must be enjoying to us. Just a fictional example. What if the „science“ would report that say a Nordost speaker cable has better measurements in some way but I would prefer a Kimber TC, or the cable which illuminates our light bulbs.

Update: Took a while, but I have finally installed the subs. Against previous plans, I did NOT go with a DBA and eight Subwoofers but a Single Bass Array with four in front and a Rockwool Sonorock Baffelwall in the back, because I thought it would be sufficient. And it was. I built the subwoofer out of cheap MDF plates, glued and screwed them together and installed the four 15 inch Dayton Audio Ultimax chassis. Costs: Around 1000$ for the subwoofers, 1200$ for the 3600W amplifier. This is less than the price of my single (!) SVS Pb16 ultra that I had before. That sub is a monster with insane deepbass and max output. So how well does my 1000$ SBA hold up to the reference subwoofer? Not an easy task. As you can see in the graph there is less than a five db fluctuation in my frequency response between 17 and 100 hz. This really is as good as it's ever gonna get. I am so happy to finally have a more or less scientific bass experience, I mean look at the graph, it's pretty much flat. The graph in Room Eq Wizard is set to show 40-90db, which is a rather unforgiving setting. I have seen people out there claiming they have a "flat" response and in reality the curve is totally stretched horizontally, making a 15db variance look rather flat, although it is not. All the suckouts, modes, nulls in my room are gone. My 3500$ SVS was not even near that flat response, I had a huge 25db suckout at 50hz and modes from 30hz downwards. In term of output, and this might be surprising, the four 15" do closely match the one 16" Pb 16 chassis, so it is again absolutely ridiculous what one 16" from SVS was capable of. So from 35hz downwards, I'd say it's a draw, maybe the four 15" have 95% the output the SVS had, and 90% of the output in extremely deep bass down 20hz, but most LFE tracks don't dig that deep and the ones that do only occasionally. But I could be imagining this, perhaps because the SVS had ports and I could literally feel the air coming towards me. Still, sound pressure is pretty much equal. They both could bring my house down. I tested all the LFE classics like Blade Runner 2049 and Aquaman, Godzilla etc. - it's a draw. From 35hz upwards and for music, it's not even close. The four enclosed boxes have tighter, faster bass, and with the suckout gone, kickbass Is now equally as loud as the rest of the frequencies. I do understand this is up to the room, and that theoretically the PB16 plays kickbass just as tight and loud, but in reality, the room is soo much more important, and It just simply was not possible to get that frequency response with one subwoofer. Don't place your subwoofers just on the floor! Have a baffle wall in the back (60-80cm thick)! Place four subwoofers in a grid (1/4 room length, 1/4 room height)! Enjoy a flat frequency response I understand this is not a very realistic scenario for living room home theater enthusiast, putting subwoofers in an grid and having a Bafflewall in the back, but for everyone wanting a scientific experience and thinking about switching to a dedicated home theatrer room, I'd strongly recommend this approach!

Another birthday to add to the list. My wife surprised me at work... brought food and a nice little cheesecake. We went out for dinner last night... ate a a place overlooking the Tennessee River. I had wood fire grilled salmon, black beans and rice. It was a beautiful time to spend with my wife.

When I answered you before I wasn't 100% accurate. I have Forte 1s and have never heard the Fortes 2s but the IVs I have are really at another level overall. I was listening to my IVs this afternoon and noticed right away how much bigger in scale they sound than my 1s. They have a MUCH greater sense of depth and the soundstage is much wider. They are also much smoother with much more punchy bass and a more even transition between the midrange and tweeter. The 1s are good but the IVs are closer to a slightly scaled down Cornwall IV. Enjoy your Forte 2s - just realize that the 3s and 4 might sound much better to your ears if you were to compare them in the same space with identical gear.

here's a little something I dug out.

Dave was a good person down to the bone RIP Dave, you're with your daughter now.

Ron , Dave promoted the Texarcana Regional Music Center project - will someone in the Community take over the Texarkana Regional Music Center that Dave worked so hard to create

Oh, wow, we really lost a good guy, he was definitely one of my favorite forum people. To all who knew him, condolences.

So Sorry to hear this , Dave was a cool cat. R.I.P. Dave

Thanks for the update Ron. One of the fondest memories I have of Dave was at his house in Houston. We were upstairs in his listening room and he was playing the largest pair of Frazier speakers I've ever seen. I don't recall the model number but they were mammoth. Supposedly they were something Frazier concocted to compete with the K-horn. We listened and talked for quite a while. It seems like ages ago yet it also seems like last week. I also remember when you and I were at his house building him a sub and we sent him to the hardware store 3 times to get a couple tubes of PL Premium. We gave up and used the liquid nails he brought on the last trip as we knew that sending him back again would be pointless. Typical Dave. LOL.

mustang_flht, I can only say that your English is excellent, but I am not a native English speaker. Certainly your English is better than mine. In cases where I am unsure re the translation, I go to "deepl.com" for help. At least I look for suggestions. The great thing is, you go with the cursor in the translated text and it pops up many alternatives, other vocabulary that are immediately offered with different sentence structure to choose from. deepl is a startup from my city Cologne, a very smart translation engine, worth a try. As a fun bonus, even the differentiation between UK or US English is offered. https://www.deepl.com/translator

@mustang_flht Your English is very clear and effective. But keep posting, someday you will attempt to say, “My amp produces 20 watts” but you will actually propose marriage to someone. 😊

Wow. A real surprise.

there is NO WAY a Cornwall with 15" bass drivers should be lacking ANY bass... regardless of where you place it, how you orient it and with what it's being driven. that being said, if your Denafrips has filter sets, that is where I would start... then I would be interested in what kind of dampening that Amplifier has and if the room might have TO MUCH absorption. Interconnects aren't going to help you with LF.

Hey Chief, Ouch. I hold you in such high esteem. If somebody else had said it, I wouldn’t bother. But when Chief Bonehead gives you a spanking, you feel it. When people come over to my house and marvel at the looks and sound coming out of my KLF-30’s, I tell them that they are restored 20-year-old Klipschs. Without fail, my guests are VERY impressed, and I think the reputation of Klipsch is broadened and enhanced. Nobody has ever said, “Well, those aren’t really Klipsches any more, are they?”. Of course they are! It sounds like you are not a big fan of these 3rd-party “upgrades”. One way you could help keep our legacy products more pure Klipsch for 20+ years is to make sure replacement parts are always available, along with any upgrades that are easily transferred from newer models. Many successful companies take pride in doing this. LORDROOTMAN, sounds like your KLF-30s are at least as “updated” as mine are, so I have to defer to your superior experience, as I’ve never had both in the room together. If your KLFs sound at least as good as mine do, and the CF4’s sound that much better, then my journey is just beginning. Thank goodness I’ll be rich some day.

Don't knock it too hard. At least I got a seizure out of it. Haven't had a good one of those since that anime show was on.

keep or sell them is up to you but please never do the automated picture thingy...it annoying as all get out. I wanted to take a close look at the speakers and could not figure out a way to stop it from changing photos every split second.

Hi Max I probably should. So far I feel I have been pissing up a rope. I am getting lectures on the benefits of class A , SET, Nelson Pass etc. this amp has replaced them all and in my mind outperformed them all by a wide margin. When I get a little time I'll gather the thoughts and put them down with a history of the amps that I'm comparing this incredible game changer to. J