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It was the most logical thing I could think of to justify the UJ to my girlfriend. How functional they are! 😇

Today I spun two albums only....wasn´t in a real mood to listen to more music ...... Roxy Music " Flesh + Blood " and Bowie " Pin-Ups "

I'm CURRENTLY running a Celery 466, 192 megs PC133, TNT2 U.... and everything works fine with my AE, so should be no probs with yours. PS. buy some more RAM it's cheap as hell!

Nah, go with the AE. I've tested both cards on MY speaker system (MUCH higher quality then any multimedia system), and the AE provides a better and nicer overall sound. You might think the QMSS funtion (the one that seperates the channels so well) isn't much, but think about it this way. The AE can take a good 2.1 speaker system and produce a very reasonable facsimile of a 5.1 environment, and in a 4.1 setup, I found a phantom centre channel to be more pronounced. Another interesting advantage is the ability to take a stereo source (mp3) and blow it out into a full 5.1 (or in the Pro's case, a 4.1). Unless you're a VERY strict audio purest (because the music is stereo, they would argue that playing it in something like 4.1 would colour the sound), you would probably find the effect to be pleasing. As for the GTXP, ya, if you want the breakout box, go for it. It'll provide the same quality as the AE (they're both similar, AND they're both higher quality then the Live 5.1), so either one will do. As for the Audigy, don't put ANY faith in it until it's come out and been reviewed by reputable sites (3dsounddurge).

Nah, what's the point? For the same price as 2 4.1's, you could seek out a better solution, hell, even the 5.1's would probably be a better buy.

First off, I know I'm coo Second, they were all taken within the last 2 years (I'm 19).

Bah, headphone jacks. The XP isn't a TRUE 7.1 snd card tho, it's just a 5.1 that has the ability to use headphones because of the breakout box, but true 7.1 cards (the cards, themselves, not things like breakout box and whatnot), aren't around (hell, they might be, but they'd be in the higher end audiophile categories, not mainstream public cards) As for IQ, well, I've taken 4 seperate official IQ tests from seperate sources, and they ranged from about 139 - 145, so 142 is a decent average.

127 IQ eh, decent, I'm sitting high at 142 myself, so as for the previous comment, a 6.2 setup? Heh, a rear centre speaker wouldn't make much of a dif at all, the next logical step up from a 5.1 setup is a 7.1, but since there're no 7.1 sound cards, not much point in going that route yet.

Bah, BB wars are boring (heh, no substance), so coo. And this msg looks screwy because of my AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA's. Anyways, suffice it to say, go out, listen to the 8200's and the Pro's, and decide which you like better, easiest and best way.

LOL, this is phunny. And what're you saying you expect more from me? Heh, I wouldn't expect much from me based on just the sporadic postings here. Anyways... Watts - Meaningless because you can have all the power you want, but the speakers themselves aren't greatly improved because of it. Look a the X-fires, they're about 90w or so, and they get louder then the Pro's and they're more neutral then the Pro's as well. History of company - Well, aren't you a big boy, buying all the BIG brand items? The problem with that is, when you limit yourself to the BIG ticket items, you tend to get cocky and ignore all other possibilities. You think to yourself, "hey, I'm paying a HELLUVA lotta cash to get this, it IS the best!". The problem with that is, you don't look at the other brands out there, and you miss out on items that would be considered a better deal. Intel? HELL NO, AMD all the way unless it's not your cash. Creative? (I assume sound cards), LOL, you can get the Philips Acoustic Edge or the Game Theatre XP, which both outperform the Live 5.1s in sound quality. IBM? (well, depends on what you're talking about, but for some of their hardware, there are better options. Epson/HP, well, depending on the hardware in particular, there might be better from other brands, it all depends. The point is, you limit yourself to the big names, and you miss out on a lot. THX - Ya, THX means something, but the MULTIMEDIA THX cert. is a monsterous joke. There are better speakers then the Pro's out there, but wait, they're not THX certified! Oh, guess that means the Pro's ARE better, right? HELL NO. THX Multimedia seriously means nothing, it's just something to stick on the box so people will see it and say, "HOLY CRAP THX CERTIFIED SPEAKERS!". As for repeating you, well, obviously you've never heard of agreeing with something you've said

Ok, if a 4.1 vs. 8200 comparison is what you're looking at, I'll just poke some holes into Justins post Heh, his list of advantages are... - watts (HA!) - lower Hz on da sub, probably, but the Pro 4.1's and the 8200's use 6.5" drivers, so they should go just about at LOW as each other, but the Pro's sub, which is a dual 6.5" setup should go LOUDER. - more dB? Well, I'm too damn lazy to look it up, but if memory serves correct, the Pro 4.1's SHOULD be a bit louder then the 8200's. - history of company? meaningless - THX? AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHA... AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA - the centre channel of the 8200's is NOT useless, and I think even Klipsch has admitted that by MAKING a 5.1 system, wouldn't you? - No argument on the seperate mid/tweeter, it does usually make a large dif. - Klipsch look cooler, ya, guess so, but ah well Now, if you want to look at 5.1's vs. 8200's, then ya, definately go with the 5.1's. they will play louder, will have deeper bass, and of course, look nicer

Nope, to get something like the 5.1's, probably your best and easiest bet would be to sell your 4.1's for as high as possible and then get the real 5.1's. The main differences between the two are a sub with larger drivers, more overall power, the centre channel, and of course the control tower. The 4.1's amp wasn't designed to power another speaker, so no way to do that. The OTHER possibility would be to order the 2.1's to go with the 4.1's, and those would act as your centre channel, but then you go through the whole thing of having to control the volume on two pairs of speakers, so in the end, the best thing to do is go for the actual 5.1's

BAH! 2 - 2+ GHz? That means you're going P4, which is a VERY crappy choice. You'll be spending a LOT of ca$h, whereas you can buy one of the new Palomino's from AMD (should be about 1.5 - 1.7 GHz by October), and it should easily match a 2+ GHz P4, and it's cheaper overall

If 5.1 games is what you're looking for, toss the Acoustic Edge into the hat as well. Heh, wireless devices are cool, but I think I'll stick with corded items I have a MS Intellimouse Explorer (also have the Logitech Mouseman, if I wanted to use that), and this nice lil' keyboard, it's one of the ones HP shipped with their computers a few months ago. It has the regular beige keys and stuff, but the purple translucent frame around it, with ALL kinds of extras. volume control, play/stop/ff/rr/eject for movies/music, all kinds of stuff This message has been edited by VIV on 07-24-2001 at 11:43 PM

Ummm, Gluegun? The X-gamer IS a SB Live card. I assume you meant that the X-gamer is a better value then the Platinum? Well, the cards are essentially the same, except for the livedrive, of course, so it boils down to weather or not you want to spend the extra $$$ for it. Also, consider the Game Theatre XP, which would be a higher quality solution then ANY of the SB Live cards, and gives you the breakout box which you can put on your desk, rather then having to goto the front of your computer.

Nope, the AE is currently the only card that can take regular stereo signals and turn them into a 5.1 sound. As for the AE's method not being that good, heh, have you tried the AE? I'm currently using it, and it kicks complete ***! I swear, when I'm sitting here listening to mp3's, I'm looking over my left or right shoulder every minute, because the card splits it up so that individual sounds come from each speaker, and it does it in a VERY convincing mannar. As for things like games, heh, once again, this card is EXTREMELY good. Sounds come through very clear and crisp, and the 5.1 implementation is damn near perfect

Yah, a lot off games don't support 5.1 sound, but if you DO want to be able to get 5.1 sound from EVERY game out there, pick up a Philips Acoustic Edge sound card. It'll even take regular stereo signals like mp3's and split it up into 5.1 sound.

Well, after a long side step to pursue my 1st Love, building Hot Rods, I am back boys and girls. Just picked up a pair of mismatched Scala beaters to turn into another pair of Plum Mahogany "La Bella's". Look forward to being back and posting my project progress. I thought about you all often and dreamt of stepping back into Scala restoration. Hi

Darn tootin' !!!

Yet gonna be unhappy if moving from Tubes to Chip Amps. 🙄🙄

Go Kart ,?? 😄😄😄

Thanks for the helpful follow up. 🙂

Mine were fantastic. ,🙂

The beauty of it is until you put that ring on the finger, you don't have to justify anything.....

@Flevoman are the whiskey bottles in the Jubilees in your avatar a kind of analog shelf adjustment? 🙂

Picked up something new for my shop. I have been using a Denon sound bar for the last couple years, which was actually doing fine, but I had the bug. I picked up some The Fives, even after reading about all their issues. Good thing I did all that reading, as these didn't work out of the box and I had to grab a thumb drive and update the firmware. Still can't get the app to connect. It just keeps taking me back to my Bluetooth connections, where I'm already showing connected. I generally avoid Klipsch electronics, outside of crossovers. That said, they sound decent and I'll give it a week. I have the sub I built in 1995 (updated in 2011) hooked up to it as I did with my sound bar. EDIT: Got it to connect to the app. Apparently the "The Fives" app that was linked on the webpage doesn't work. The Klipsch Connect app does work and it said the firmware was up to date. I'm guessing the first person who bought these updated them with just the app and skipped USB and made them inoperable. Seems to be $350 well spent for brand new The Fives (I bought it as an "open box" item). EDIT 2: I have been enjoying just having music play again. The Denon sound bar I had was pretty decent, but I never listed to music on it, just had the TV/Movie going in the background. Now I am putting on music again.

At the end I founded this: https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems-Holder-Replacement/dp/B00GZOGWJI/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 Giuseppe

I'm sorry for you loss! The drivers on the tweeters and horns most likely are shot, but the actual plastic horns can take a bath and still not have any worries. There's always people on the forum looking for spare parts, so don't throw them away. Take some pics and see who's interested.

I bought a pair of Quartets once. Apparently the owner had a plant on one of them and water must have spilled onto the top resulting in a warped top. Probably too expensive to repair, but they still sounded great! Obviously we don't know what the cabinets look like (sure would be nice to see some photos!) but some bleach on the wood should kill the mold. The speakers might be worth relegating to the basement or garage shop.

That is a steal. GLWS.

Quiet funny , I know this vid ...lot´s of truth in it !

Thanks! I have some under my sink! I’ll use that.

Sounds like cowgirl or reverse cowgirl for you

Those are birthday cakes What I got some sort of crap 💩 From Walmart The only thing good was the candle in his hand !

I have the option of using diffusors or absorption on the wall behind the speakers. I tried both and slightly prefer absorption there and a combination of absorption and diffusion at the first sidewall reflection points.

Reading the Old Testament wasn't easy and I didn't finish it. The Iliad and the Odyssey were brutal, but the 'hold my beer' challenge was accepted a century later.

Not too much going on at my place right now besides trying to get the kids ready to go back to school next week. My buddy Mark dropped by today with his cute daily driver 356.

I'm starting to Enjoy cold home brew right now.

https://hackaday.com/2024/07/11/you-can-use-a-crt-as-an-audio-amplifier-tube/ if anything screams, "don't try this at home", this does

Fascinating, PWK needs a movie of his life story.

My black Chorus II's need risers. I'd like if they came with better feet than the factory tacks.

Those look good, I’m thinking I can make some with plywood.

Yes, you can put them on stands. Yes, it will adversely affect bass, as they won't be directly coupled to the floor. (Linkwitz transform type bass eq fixes it right up.)

The only form to reduce it, is lowering the volume in the remote control. By the way, there is a little white sound that I can't never eliminate I have these speakers connected to my TV via eARC-HDMI and my TV is connected to the PC via HDMI 2.1

Here is a photo from yesterday's roadtrip. BTW, both Mike(dirtmudd) and I landed on this craig's advert. Have some cleaning to do on both units. Not Klipsch but, attached to...Thanks Mike: Edit: forgot...Sansui 2050 and Akai 1730 SS

where are the pics... don't hold out !

Another road trip starting tomorrow. Located a pair of Klipsch that I have wanted for a long time. Will post pics along the way!

another day spent listening to music with the Hkits on the LaScala. it sounds so good i've decided to bring my favorite turntable back in the living room. it's a Braun Pcs5 with a simple Acutex 312str, my phono-pre is a custom MM/MC V-fet thing on batteries. i had invited a few friends who never heard LaScala but had read all the "lack of bass" litterature. they were totally impressed by the natural and articulation of drums and double-bass, wether it was on cd (various McBride and Haden opus) or Lp, where the dynamics are even more startling. and find that finally, the LS are not "that" big ;-) the duo track with Richard Davis on "Eric Dolphy Memorial album" (mono) is incredible and Kind of Blue ( 6eyes mono) never sounded so rich and full and close. the LaScala definitely bring me back into the pleasure and desire of music, which is risky - but delightful read a very interesting piece about flea power vs. more tube watts on the LS i'm trying to find again to share here.