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  1. 27 points
    Was it worth taking the day off to wear the most uncomfortable clothes I own, driving an hour and a half through Dallas traffic, fighting my social anxiety to be part of a crowded room full of strangers? For this man and his family, most certainly yes. I am truly grateful to have been a small part of today's events, to meet Boxx's family, and to celebrate a life well lived. In overhearing conversations, his eulogy, and brief conversations with his family is was evident that Boxx was the same here as he was everywhere else. A wonderful husband, a doting father, a loyal friend .. he was goofy and loved to have a good time, always welcoming, intelligent, and most certainly a music lover. So the Boxx we knew was the Boxx everyone knew, and that warms my soul. Alex, the soundtrack you put together was a perfect amalgam of his favorite artists and it was as though he made it himself. Great selections that had me tapping my toes and recalling fond memories of late night jam sessions. His eulogy was presented by his best friend and also included a beautiful message by Boxx's daughter Genevieve. A few musical selections were played as well, including "Time" and "High Hopes" - I think Boxx would have loved these selections for not only the personal importance they have in his family's life, but also the fact that he got a full chapel of multi-generational people to sit through two very slow Alan Parsons and Pink Floyd songs. I cried the whole time. Dave and the PAW: you guys knocked it out of the park with the flowers. Thank you for taking that initiative and making it happen so quickly. Forum guys: It was both weird and humbling to represent a whole segment of people that could have easily doubled the number of people in attendance. I know this forum, and all of the love and support put forth by its members, means a great deal to the family. If any of you were there, my apologies for not seeking you out. So many people in such a tight space started to overwhelm me and I needed to duck out. Boxx family: Thank you for alerting us so quickly and allowing us to support you and grieve with you. It would have been just as easy to let us know retroactively, or not at all. It was indeed a privilege to to be there in honor of your husband and dad. Alex and Genevieve: I sincerely hope you guys stick around and interact from time to time, continuing your dad's legacy and leaving your own mark. I really appreciate you taking the time to speak with me and I'd really like to get to know you more, here or "offline". I thoroughly enjoyed your dad and it's clear that his influence is found in you both, and that makes me think I'd enjoy you as well. Michele: Thank you for sharing your husband with us. He spent a ton of time here, but it should never be considered a wasted effort - our lives are enriched as a result of knowing him. I have no doubt your support network is vast, but please don't ever hesitate to reach out to the brothers of Klipsch if you need anything. Stay thirsty my friend. - Michael
  2. 23 points
    I finally said good bye to General Motors after 24 years. I've had 5 surgeries in the last 8 years, and my body just can't take building trucks anymore. Probably the scariest thing I've ever done, but I did it. I'm 63, so with my pension and SS, I should be fine. Besides, my wife works full time also. I'll probably have to cut back on buying vintage tubes and speakers.....
  3. 21 points
    I woke up in the middle of the night last evening realizing I need more "Likes" in my profile. Please "Like" me so I'll feel better about myself. LIKE ME! LIKE ME!
  4. 20 points
    Sooooo about the same time, and one year ago I joined this Klipsch forum thing.... From my very 1st post I was made to feel welcome. There was some fun poked at me for some laughs. But it was all good. I was on the site a few times before I joined just poking around. So I decided to give it a shot. What a place.....there were people hear that owned more Klipsch speakers than me.....and just had more gear than I did. I quickly told my wife....."see I don't have a problem".... Then my kids find out that I joined a forum to talk about speakers and audio gear...they were laughing at me.....then they find out that there are women on this forum that I have spoken with.....They were asking my wife "do you know daddy is talking to women on his forum".... It's like I was a criminal... They just don't understand this audio thing......Most of the time it's parents telling there kids to turn that dam music down......not at our house.....my kids are like..."dad my walls are shaking can you turn it down some"? lol lol.. Well in this year I have seen some stuff.....some really funny shitt, some form member's getting pissed off with each other, some saying there leaving, watched some threads get locked up.. yea I read them but didn't say a word.... and Iv'e watched other forum members giving some help to other forum members.....But the saddest was the passing of Boxx...I was just starting to know his witt.. Yes that was a sad day.....I asked my wife how could I be so sad and so upset over a man I never meet??? Talking with some of my friends I was not the only one who shed a tear...and then the night we all got together and played Pink Floyd for Boxx. I was at the shop working...pumping out the watts to the KP-362's...yea I had a big lump in my throat.... Well what I want to do here is to thank all my friends and all the great people that come to this site to help and teach others. Cuz I sure need it...I may have a good bit of audio gear but I'm no "audiofile"... On my 1st post I stated I want to learn....and I have from so so many that really know there shitt....so yea thank you... So to all my klipsch peeps...it's been a great 1st year and I look forward to many more....and one day I hope I get a chance to meet some of you... Take care all.. In the words of Boxx...I will "come often, post often" MKP :-) Oh yea one more thing...Tarheel you are the one that "coined" me MKP...thanks I liked it...
  5. 20 points
    None of the statements below constitute an official Klipsch statement. These are my personal opinions and thoughts. Please treat them as such... I don't post a lot here (always lurking, though), so I'm not going to pretend like everyone here knows me. In short, I'm the guy who runs social media for Klipsch. I have been the voice of the Klipsch Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube Google+, etc accounts for almost three years now. Anyway, in the thread about the big launch we're having at CES 2015, things got a little heated. I don't like to run social media way the traditional way - kissing every customers butt no matter what they say. BUT I do take great pride in being a far more transparent and open representative than you would find at other consumer-oriented brands. In that spirit, I would like to tackle a few subjects and many more in order to continue this transparency and openness. This is gonna be quite rambling and incoherent, but I just want to get a few things out there. I LOVE Klipsch...This is my life. This is how I feed myself (sometimes) and put clothes on my back. I spend way too much time thinking about all of this stuff and that is the same thing for 90% of the people who work there. I love coming into work and it's not like I'm getting rich off this job. I love what the company stood for and what it stands for now. We Love You...From my readings here, I think people are feeling detached from the company here - that we don't care about out. This couldn't be further from the truth. We always ask "Well, what are the forums guys gonna think about X?" Did our marketing drift away from you guys? YES. We admitted that and have taken the necessary steps to appeal both to YOU and the grander audience that we need in order to survive and thrive. We Need You...You want Klipsch to make certain products? You want Klipsch to make more stuff in the United States? TELL YOUR DEALERS! Screaming about it on the forums does almost nothing. We have to make a business case to make a new speaker and that means dealer buy-in. The fact about Klipsch business is that so little of it is done directly. We rely heavily on our dealers to move product because we simply do not have the advertising or marketing budgets to move tons of product on our own. Paul W. Klipsch...Not a single day goes by, where someone does not mention him or his audio principles. When Mark Casavant introduced the latest line to the entire company, PWK was in his very first sentence. His audio principles are literally drilled into us every single. The engineers and product managers are absolutely instructed to make products that stick to these principles. Heck, I even have four photos of him in my so-much-better-than-Chad's cube. PLUS, many of our new marketing initiatives are centered around him aka "Good Poop" blog posts, our CES 2015 audio museum, brand video, etc. As a marketing department, we are working closer than ever with Jim Hunter whose wealth of PWK knowledge is ridiculous. Jim takes almost every single visitor/guest on a tour of Klipsch HQ in which he provides in-depth commentary of PWK and his speakers. All of this is why I take great offense at some posters here who act like we have forgotten him or don't care about his legacy. That is utter horse manure through and through. Heritage Sales...Certain people seem to take great offense still that we make products that aren't Heritage. Come on, guys! If we didn't make Reference, we would have to lay off everyone. It's really that simple. No one, past or present, would/should/could want that. The ugly truth is that many/most companies would just shut down the line and move on. I know a lot of you guys recognize this already, so I apologize if it seems condescending. We would love to expand on the Heritage line but there needs to be a business case. It doesn't matter if someone from the past would be in charge. The situation would be the same. We can't just make every awesome speaker we think of, unfortunately. Made in America...Reading the above paragraph, one might think "Oh, Alex is a young punk who hates Heritage and just buys a bunch of Chinese-made crap." Deep breath! I love, love, love our Heritage line and Made in America products. I am actually saving up for Heresy speakers that I will surely pass down to my kids (if that ever happens). Oh and right now I am wearing a Gitman shirt, Flint & Tinder denim, Flint + Tinder underwear, and Chippewa Boots - all products made in America. The initiative with the Made in America blog series and partnerships with companies like Tanner Goods, Woodchuck USA, Imogene + Willie, etc is my baby and it's an initiative that has backing from everyone. We want to make more stuff in America. Even Vlad and the headphone team are looking for creative ways to get Hope involved. We'll see what happens. Heritage Opportunity...We have a unique opportunity to take advantage of a growing consumer segment - the hipster with disposable income. A popular trend right now is buying handmade and American-made products that, yes, are a little more expensive than the comparable made in China product. Our friends Tanner Goods charge $450 for their Portland-made backpack and they sell quite a few of them! It's quite remarkable. With our current Heritage lineup, we have a unique opportunity to target these consumers. We are looking for unique channels of distribution for Heritage that goes beyond audio-specific dealers. Heritage Marketing...There is a ridiculous misconception that we haven't marketed Heritage products at all and that's why they're not selling. Wrong, wrong, wrong! I don't know how many of you follow our social media channels or blog, but we talk about our Heritage speakers a ton. Also, be sure to check out the relatively new video we made for the line. Plus, our partnership with Classic Album Sundays is centered around the Heritage Series. If you don't know what it is, CAS is special listening sessions in certain parts of the world where you listen to an album all the way through with Klipschorns or La Scalas and a speaker guest speaker explaining the album. These events are great, but they are expensive, so we can't do it in as many places as we'd like. Klipsch Professional...We are making a new push with Klipsch Professional. We have great opportunities to grow here. You should see a lot of cool stuff coming through this department in the next few years. A lot of the growth will also be done behind the scenes. Concepts...Sometimes we make concepts that we aren't allowed to talk about with you guys. These can be Hope-built products that would certainly peak a lot of your interests. Sometimes, these get canned for lack of dealer support. Watch both our own and third party of the Klipsch at CES carefully! Chad and I are asking for permission to show you guys stuff, so we can drum up support for certain things, but no promises. Website Homepage...Our website currently features a bunch of products that aren't favorites here. That's because they are on discount and we have rarely ever done discounts directly through our website. It is an experiment. In any case, website hero slides will go back to our more heritage-y marketing that we all prefer on 1/1/2015. This industry is tough for high-end...Here's a little taste of the market for you. The average selling price for soundbars + bluetooth speakers dropped over 40% in only year! Isn't that crazy? We don't do the low-end market particularly well and we recognize that. In fact, we have recommitted to the high-end market. See this recent article from the Indiana Business Journal. Mistakes...We have made mistakes both in products and in marketing. There is absolutely not denying it. BUT I think everyone here is really going to like the direction we're going in both these departments going forward. Things have change SIGNIFICANTLY in the three years I've been here and I think, now, it's finally for the better. Soundbars...If you read the article above, you will know that CEO Paul Jacobs said "You can’t replace the experience of a premium home theater system with a sound bar.” Everyone here should be VERY happy about that statement and it's absolutely true. We are committed to superior home theater and two channel solutions. That's our bread and butter. That being said, our soundbars do sound great. I know from personal experience that people on these very forums thought they were hearing professional Klipsch speakers but it was actually a R-20B soundbar. So, with that in mind, let's not always scream and shout that these products can't possibly sound any good, please. No Voxx, No Klipsch...I can't go into too much detail but the reality is that when Fred Klipsch (who PWK sold the company to) decided to sell Klipsch, there were two choices - Klipsch lives through Voxx or it dies an unrecognizable death. I know many of you have fears they will run us into the ground, but, at this point, it is what it is and we ALL need to make the best about it. It's been what - 4 years? Time to move on. Criticism...Parts of this post probably come off as me being quite butt hurt and unable to take any criticism. Part of that is true haha! I should let more things go, but I think that also does show how much I care about this place. Anyway, criticism does make us better. It definitely does. That being said, sometimes this place can be brutally negative even when it doesn't make any sense. We need you guys to be part of the solution. Anyway, I hope this was worth reading in some way. I really hope it didn't come off as dick-ish or condescending. I know a lot of you recognize already what I just typed out. I am just trying to be open and honest. If you have any questions, fire them over. Happy Holidays and Happy New Year! Again, none of the statements above constitute an official Klipsch statement. These are my personal opinions and thoughts. Please treat them as such.
  6. 19 points
    A couple years ago when I bought my KG 4s through Craigslist the guy gave me a nice pair of Yamaha bookshelf speakers for free with them. They sound really nice but they had been sitting around for a while collecting dust. So, I decided to throw them on Craigslist. Listed them this morning for $25 or best offer. Got a call a couple hours later from a guy who was interested in them. I called him back and told him he could have the speakers for free. I didn't want to list them for free since I figured I'd get tons of responses from people just looking for a freebie. He was very surprised to hear that. He stopped over a few hours later and it turns out he's disabled in a wheelchair and wasn't able to text me (like I listed in the ad as a preferred contact method) because he can't afford a cell phone. He thanked me over and over again for giving him the speakers. Made me feel good.
  7. 18 points
    Here is a picture of some speakers that I just completed. You could call them Cornwall III clones or Cornwall inspired, but they are DIY scratch built speakers. The cabinets are Baltic birch covered in South African waterfall bubinga. They are filled with factory drivers and crossovers, so of course, they sound amazing. I'm trying them in different rooms with different amplification to determine where they are going to stay. I Love this hobby!
  8. 18 points
  9. 17 points
    Klipsch LaScala AL-5 ME. 🙂
  10. 17 points
    @Chief bonehead gave dtel and I his prototype 1502 sub and came down this weekend to help with the install. While he was here he made some other adjustments to our system. I want to give Roy a big thank you for the sub woofer, help with the install and adjustments to our system. More importantly I want to thank him for the new found love I have for our gear. I am so impressed with the performance of this sub woofer. The only way to describe it is "musical". It takes bass to a whole new level. We put the sub through its paces by watching X-Men Apocalypse. The sofa was literally vibrating! We walked outside to take a break and the exterior walls were shaking.
  11. 17 points
    My orphaned family... 😛
  12. 17 points
    Caution: Longish review. If you fancy a read, grab your favorite cocktail and enjoy. If you don’t drink, this might be significantly more painful for you. A little bit of background about listening preferences: My reference system consists of a pair of all-original 1978 Altec 19 with 416-8B woofers and 802-8g tweeters, both with the AlNiCo magnets. I mostly stream lossless audio from my Mac to a Maverick Audio D1 DAC. The speakers are driven from a Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II tube integrated amp. I enjoy a balanced sound that leans toward warm and lush. If given the choice, I prefer to sacrifice the edge of detail to have a more musical experience. I don’t need to hear if Mark Knopfler has a booger hanging out of his nose or not; I want to enjoy music. I tried the three sets of speakers with two setups, the Maverick DAC with tube out to an NAD D 3020 integrated, and the Maverick with SS out to a Denon 2808ci receiver working as a preamp to a B&K Video-5 amp. The Quartets have been updated with Crites’ titanium tweeters and new crossovers. RP-280F First, anyone concerned about efficiency on these - stop worrying. These play at almost the same exact level as the other two. They are rated at 98db, the Heresy 99db, and Quartet 97.5db. Perhaps they are not exactly 98, but they are so close it doesn’t matter. I didn’t bother using my SPL meter – it wasn’t worth testing what was clearly a very close race. Shoving a flashlight into the rear tractrix port, and getting my nose in there, I could see bracing that I assume extends the height of the speaker. I wasn’t about to take apart brand-new speakers to see what else may be going on in there. While music is playing, the cabinet has just a small amount of vibration and feels solid. It’s not a bank vault, but it’s not the singing box of years past, either. This new design and bracing gets the cabinet out of the way of the sound, which leaves no trace of “boxiness” in the RP-280F’s listening profile. I have begun calling the RP-280F “the Skinnies.” At 43” tall, they make the Quartets look short, and the Heresy III positively dumpy. It’s no surprise that the Skinnies have the most modern look of the three, and may actually be accepted by your spouse – the one who may have thought once or eighteen times about setting ablaze your 1970s boxes. I gave the Skinnies 25-30 hours of break-in before making final judgments. Out of the box, they had plenty of highs and lows, but they had a leanness in the midrange. At first, listening to them felt like enjoying a pile of nachos without the meat, cheese, or sour cream. After letting them play awhile, more meat appeared in the midrange. You might be thinking, “Nope, your ears got used to it.” False. I did an A/B vs the Quartets within the first couple hours of hooking the Skinnies up, and then 30 hours in. At first, the Skinnies sounded lean, and were lacking warmth. I was ready to dismiss them and deal with the expletive-laden process of packing them up and sending them in for return. Thirty hours in, the tonality became sweeter, and lusher like their distant cousins, the Quartets. This was verified with an A/B switch. What was initially a lean sound became more rounded, but with layers of detail. The voices have left the box. The Skinnies’ cabinet design produces a clean, open sound that is free from the confines of its dimensions. I challenge any “golden ear” audiophile, in a blind test, to tell me these are horns. Thanks to the new hybrid tractrix horn , there are no horn colorations on these guys,. With an updated crossover design, these speakers create an incredibly smooth sound. They also have enough detail to satisfy, but they’re not the last word in transparency. And I don’t care. They’re that satisfying. Depending on your source equipment, some glassiness will rear its ugly head in the upper registers (8khz+). This wasn’t apparent when using the setup mentioned for review, but when using a Schiit DAC and some terrible cables, there was a need to reduce 8khz and 16khz by ~1db. Distortion? None. I’m sure there will be people that will crank these a lot louder than I am willing to go. But at the borderline scream-to-the-person-next-to-you level at which I played them, I heard no distortion. The bass stayed clean and all parts of the mix stayed together without any compression. Speaking of bass, that’s incredible. They dig deep and clean. Very clean. No bazooka-tube subwoofer here. Efficiency and speed are virtues of the updated woofers. There was power and texture to some drums that I have not heard since a couple years ago when I heard a set of GamuT RS9. I bought these knowing they are not hand-built and that they have vinyl veneer. The veneer is actually pretty neat looking, with deep and dramatic vertical grains, but it isn’t actually wood. Sitting next to the Quartet and Heresy, which are both veneered in real oak, there is an obvious difference. Since I don’t generally stare at the sides of them or touch them, I don’t particularly care about that. Generally, I’d much rather pay for drivers and engineering than a beautiful cabinet with cheap parts, and to that end, the RP-280F delivers exactly what I expected. However, if I could, I’d pay for both the cabinet and parts, which basically means I’d be paying for their big brother, the RF-7ii. Cheap veneer is one thing, but the detail that makes me want to throw a tantrum in the middle of the grocery store is the final fit of the parts. The rubber horns are easily peeled back to reveal double-stick tape to hold them down onto the baffle. The horn does fit snugly into holes like a traditional speaker grill and they aren’t going anywhere, but I don’t want to see double stick tape on these - anywhere. Verdict: Put extra holes to place them in, charge me an extra $50, I don’t care. Get rid of the tape. In the end, the Skinnies are like a fine martini; they’re sophisticated, clean, and slightly sharp. They remind me of a blend of the airy precision of the Martin Logan ESLs, and the bass power of the Magico Q7 Mkii. The RP-280Fs are also finicky like a martini. If you use bottom-shelf booze, you get a drink that will get you where you need to go, but you probably won’t enjoy it very much; there will be harshness and regret. Use something more full-bodied and clean, and you’ve got yourself a pleasant evening. There are speakers with more detail, and those that are warmer, but overall, the sound of the RP-280F is balanced and pleasant. Quartet Why are you in a box? Come out of the box. Seriously, why must the sound be coming from a box? OK, we’ll go with it. Switching from the 280 to these, the sound felt like it was being thrown at you from directly inside the box. You can hear the box, you can hear the horns, but if you leave them playing for a minute or two, you do forget about that. They have a sweetness to their sound that is like being sung to sleep by your favorite aunt. They approach the detail of the 280, but cannot match it. Some portions of the music are smoothed over, blended up, and played back with a cream cheese coating. The Quartets only had the slightest bit more warmth in voices than the 280, but lack the air and detail. With their airless cream cheese, it would suggest much more warmth than the 280, but an A/B switch reveals the biggest differences are detail and extension. Playing louder, I sensed the tiniest hint of harshness to the sound as compared to the 280. Without the 280 in the room, this goes completely unnoticed. Neither of these will have a problem destroying your ears at concert-level volumes, if that’s what you’re into. Rather than a sharp martini, the Quartets are a creamy cup of coffee on a cold winter’s day. They are enjoyable to listen to, and it’s only with an A/B test that you can really hear their faults. Heresy III These guys are squatty, ugly, they image too low, and don’t have as much detail as either of the other two. Voices from the Heresies still come from a box, but just like the Quartet, you quickly forget about the boxy sound. As the Heresies played, I felt as though they were wearing velvet while a monk played panpipes and stroked my hair. Their sound is purely relaxing. Voices are slightly recessed, and lack some air, but have a richness to their tone. Both the Heresy and Quartet can throw a wider soundstage than the 280, but lack the pinpoint imaging. Wider baffles seem to be able to create a wider stage much more easily. Regarding the Heresy, the velvety sound, with a wider soundstage, creates a more intimate experience. There is most definitely a Heritage sound, and I like it. The 280 are close when you really focus, but you won’t mistake them for any Heritage model, even if you’re drunk on that martini. Conclusion If I had to choose just one set to live with, it would be the Heresy. They are angled up, looking at you like eager puppies, and are ready to play. They put a smile on my face whenever I see or hear them. Filled with soul and emotion, they are special in a way the new 280s can’t touch. These will be sticking with me, for a good, long time. But let’s say I get to keep two pairs. If that were the case, I’d be keeping the Heresy and the 280. Their tonality is very close, and I get to experience more detail with the 280. It is important not to mistake this detail for brightness. Yes, the Heresies are a tick warmer, but the 280 are not lacking. For their location (my family room, in the heart of my house), the 280 are more visually acceptable, and as an added bonus, are mind-blowing for movies. If I had another room that needed speakers, I’d keep all three.
  13. 17 points
    tell me, if you were mentored, taught, hanging out and were loved by a person that you would have considered a father figure in your life, would you insult him? its become obvious that you have not read or understand my relationship with paul......so once again i put this out there. paul's real heritage speakers are what paul built the company on. paul and i had many discussions on his speakers and every time i got the honor of working on them, i did so with the utmost respect. while he was alive, i always got his approval for things. tractrix was the toughest but thru the help of a mutual friend, he accepted it, which further widen my admiration for paul. think about it....at his age (late 80's), to still have an open mind to make changes and advance amazed me. but paul is not alive anymore.....and we never discussed updating his speakers from a horn perspective. the jub was the first one he wanted to do with a tractrix horn along with his mods to the horn. with the forte ii, i had started to play with tractrix, paul was there to advise and encourage me with his rebuttal questions. that is why the forte ii and quartet and chorus ii used my first generation tractrix. to get the chance to reintroduce and update the forte, and adding some of things i was taught and learned, yes i added all i could....because i know paul would wanted it that way and would have approved. but it is my intention of honoring paul is why i will not update his speakers. i will never say never....but right now, i would not do that to pauls speakers or his legacy. paul just means alot to me. and i would have to do alot of remembering and meditation to make sure that paul would want that. now do you understand?
  14. 17 points
    small bite. from the beginning product by product. as i have told some close friends of mine, i had never heard of klipsch much less heard from klipsch. i just a fresh engineer guy out of college, called by klipsch to interview. i got to spend about 45 minutes with paul and in those 45 minutes, i came out of his office thoroughly convinced that the only way to design speakers was to use horns. one of the first projects i worked with paul on was the midbass horn and woofer horn of the kp-600. i know that some people ***** about the way i answer a question with a question (deano?) but that is how paul taught me. it was quite cool and frustrating working with him. but i am sure glad he pushed. paul fingerprints are all over the 600. the network that crosses over from the mids to highs was basically pauls idea. at the time i came to work for klipsch, paul was constantly playing with networks. he was really intrigued by steep slope networks. m derived. the manifold to put two 2" diap drivers together was totally designed by him. i asked him if he would design and of course, he was holding class and i never realized it. that manifold worked perfectly and provided addition up to the freq i asked. it was in these details....this projects within projects......macro details today..........and nuances tomorrow....these nuances that paul would later remind ,me that i just needed, to concentrate on the 20%......
  15. 16 points
    As I alluded to in CC and C thread yesterday these things are making sweet sounds in my man cave. Thanks to @MetropolisLakeOutfitters, @Trentster5172, @Chris A everyone at Klipsch and Assoc. Hope AR and most especially to @Chief bonehead. I've got more fine tuning to do. Chris I have the UMIK and a microphone stand but still waiting for a laptop(guess I have to order one before it will show up). I will get back to you when I get it. But so far the settings for the TADs sound pretty darn good to me. Also I have some veneering to do. And cable routing and clean up etc...etc....Oh and listening. Forgot, thanks @cincymat for the XP 4080
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  17. 16 points
    So, I took advantage of the big discounts on Palladiums and ordered a set of P-37’s, along with the center and surrounds in Merlot. I did not order the sub as it is just too big for me and I already had the RT-10D, which is excellent and compact. The Palladiums replace KLF-20s/C7 and KSP-S6 surrounds. They arrived roughly a couple weeks ago. I am driving them with a Denon AVR-X6200W, and I use Audessey room correction. After many years of tinkering, I had my KLF-20’s really, really dialed into my room and they sounded beyond excellent. My expectations for the Palladiums were better looks, slightly better mids/highs, slightly better imaging, and significantly better center integration/matching. I had my doubts about bass, but given I am running a good sub, I was confident I could get the bass dialed in and would be at least as good. In short, my hope was that these would provide the best sound I have ever heard. (No pressure, haha). The first thing to happen was that my RT-10D subwoofer inexplicably died right at the beginning, so it is in the shop, and I am without sub. When I first turned them on (no sub, no Audessey), I immediately noticed that the P’s had potential, mids/highs were smoother and clearer, and I was very surprised by the quality of the bass. But I knew I had some work to do to get the P’s dialed into my room. Now, I have to say again, the previous KLF-20s were really dialed in, so I had a good idea of the sound I was expecting. After two weeks and probably 20 hours of adjusting speaker positions, running Audessey, dozens of times, with multiple Audessey mic patterns, multiple speaker positions, and driving my wife crazy, last night it finally clicked. And Oh. My. God. It was goose-bump-city all evening. Yes, this is the best sound I have ever achieved in my house. Here are my a few tracks that I use to know if I am dialed in: Blue Ray: I use the movie “Battleship”. This movie has tremendous sound effects. When the alien ship breaks up and slams into earth, the explosion effects are supreme. When a piece of the alien ship slams into a glass skyscraper the explosions and smashing glass is incredible. I expect this to improve when I get my sub back, but I am pleasantly surprised how good the P’s perform without the sub. Music: Mark Knopfler – Album: Golden Heart, Track: Golden Heart. This song has some delicate guitar, delicate vocals, along with bass note that has always been a challenge to get sounding perfect in my room. Greg Brown – Album: Down In There, Track: Hillbilly Girl. This song has acoustic guitar, a delicate deep simple drum beat, and vocals that that will sound grating/awful if my midrange is not dialed in. Yarn – Album: Yarn, Track: Listen Up Sweetheart. This song has acoustic bass, steel guitar, mandolin, gentle snare drum and a certain spaciousness that I look for. Many others, but I use the above ones because I am very familiar with them and they tell me when something ain’t right. Overall happy camper here! Pics:
  18. 16 points
    Several months ago, my 14yr old daughter mentioned she would like to have a stereo for her bedroom. So of course I immediately headed to Craigslist to look for some Klipsch. I found a pair of RF-5, RC-7 and RB-5 for $600. I figured at that price, I could keep a pair of the speakers and sell the rest. I brought them home and asked my daughter if she would rather have the towers or bookshelf speakers in her bedroom and she said the bookshelf (I would have picked the RF-5's but hey....it's her room). I didn't have a need for the RF-5 or RC-7 so I ended up selling them and ended up with the RB-5 for free. A few weeks later, I found an Onkyo TX-SR602 for $30 and then several weeks after that, I found a small entertainment center for $20. I figured it would make a nice birthday gift for her so I stored the entertainment center at the church and the speakers and receiver in the HT. Not a bad first system for $50. So tomorrow is her 15th birthday and she's spending the night at a friend's so I brought home the entertainment center and hooked up her first system. I think she is going to be thoroughly impressed. I couldn't believe how terrible her TV sound was. I mean really awful. I think she will be pleasantly surprised.
  19. 16 points
    Good news everyone! I have just come from visiting Dee in the hospital. He is doing much better. The doctor wants to treat his condition with drugs... no invasive procedures at this time. Also, he was about to be moved from CCU to a regular room. I'll be visiting him again tomorrow and will keep everyone updated. Keep those prayers going. Tony
  20. 16 points
    Two days ago, at 36 years old, my best friend Wakejunkie had two strokes. For the most part he's doing fine. Has some balance issues and cannot walk without assistance. Dr said its a miracle he is alive. Only 10% survive from a stroke like he had and he had two making it around 1% of people that survive. Here is the latest update from his wife Update: the doctor has confirmed that it is a tear in his vertebral artery alone causing the strokes. It is a life changing event. The doctor said it is a miracle that he didn't die and to count this as a second chance. He will not be able to play sports anymore, go to the chiropractor, or pop his neck without risk of causing another tear. He should heal from his present symptoms over the next three months but doctor says risk of re-injury is great. It is a weakness of connective tissue and not from previous surgery. Treatment for this event is major blood thinners until the tear heals and then an aspirin type regiment. Please keep him in prayer as he adjusts to these changes.
  21. 15 points
    They went to a great new home, which makes me very happy. And wow, did they sound fantastic set up outside....Several of my neighbors (and the mailman) came over and asked if I was getting ready for a concert.....Well, yes! Now I need a new project.......
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    Greetings folks. I thought I’d temporarily lift my self-imposed ban to tell you all that the Lord has smiled on my family today. Brother’s cancer is localized and has NOT spread. Next step is meeting with the Oncologist to devise a treatment plan. Still a serious surgery ahead; but grateful for this bit of good news. Thank you for your prayers. I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. Praising God for this good news, so today is still Thanksgiving to me. Kindly, Steve
  23. 15 points
    I can't believe I am posting here... but this is all an accident.... I just bought a pair of Forte II by mistake. And I didn't even know there was a company called "Klipsch" till a few days before I bought them. ( Still don't know how to say it) Oh man… after years of not listening to music on a decent stereo I am enjoying music at level I didn’t know was possible: spine tingling, gut warming, waves of warm colored sound blanketing me. So for the last 14 years the best audio I had was some sound bar with 3in speakers and a sub. I was becoming so frustrated with tiny sound. So I decided to try and match the mid-fi (lo fi?) High School system I had from 1976-2001 (KLH 3 way with speakers about 2ft high with a Harmon Kardon 50w per channel I think) I went to Best Buy, I felt too cheap to drop over $600 on tower speakers and the cheaper ones sucked. So I got some decent bookshelf speakers. Klipsch M15 they were good. They sounded clear and I heard elements I hadn’t heard. But I wanted something I could FEEL like I remember with my old floor standing speakers. So I looked on Craigslist. I saw a pair of big speakers that in the picture looked about the same size as my 1970 KLHs. They were listed a Klipsch KG4 for $270. I looked them up and they seemed like okay speakers and the same size as my old High School KLHs. I went to the sellers house. The speakers seemed bigger than they should be. But they were comply pristine. Then I listen to them and I was listening for flaws and didn't really find any. I was going to listen for a while and analyse everything, but then I got chills down my spine (listening to Electrelane) which the expensive Best Buy speakers hadn't done. So I said SOLD! BUT when I got them home I realized something was WRONG! 67 lbs each! (I knew they seemed heavier than 45lbs) 35 tall by 16 wide by 12 deep... These aren't KG4s! After some research I found out they were these things called Forte IIs and these weird people called audiophiles seemed to think they were good. So here I am it's near 2:00 am and I am being enveloped in a whole warm colourful wall of dynamic alive multidimensional sound even at low volumes. I am sitting and listening to music for the first time in decades... but it's never been like this. Rehearing old music opening to new music. New categories of music, piano, sitar, even pop! OMG can't beleive I have been missing this. I didn't know what a sound stage was now I have one. It's a new world. Oh no am I an accidental Audiophile because of a in accurate Craigslist post? So what do you all think? Should I demand my money back?
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    It does have a 3D look to it. Reminds me of a topographical map.
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    I've posted this before. You may remember it.
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    To my little family! I am proud to present Samantha Mae! Born 10/21/15 at 1:57pm 6lbs 11oz. We were about to head to the hospital, and while my wife was taking a shower to get ready, she yelled my name and said the baby was coming. A few pushes later this little bundle was born...... in our bathroom Fun story to tell when she's older.
  28. 15 points
    The old adage, just when you think you've seen it all... If you are like me and have been married a couple decades you know what I'm talking about. Wives never cease to amaze. I was sitting at the table reading some posts and was looking at some Khorns. My wife walks by, takes a peek and says " those look nice, who is selling them?" She didn't realize they were speakers. She thought they were (in her words - lovely cabinets). Told her what they were and showed some other photos. She likes them because of the corner placements and looks and dosent mind if I get a pair! Wow. I showed her LaScalas and the Belles which I thought she would like. Nope...too fat, meaning wide. Just about fell off my chair. Of all the speakers she would like, the biggest most monstrous powerhouse out there. So now the search begins. Young guys, never assume you know anything about women; After 28 years I still get blown away.
  29. 15 points
    A phone call came this morning at about 0715 am from the trucking company. At 745 we were unloading. By 830 we were listening!!! 2015 Klipschorns serial #1 and 2.
  30. 15 points
    But in a good way. Thank you all so much for the beautiful flowers....as you can see, I didn't have a vase large enough to hold them, and I was overwhelmed by the gesture. My gratitude for your friendship is unmeasurable... through all the moaning and groaning of rules, warnings and locked threads, I've always felt appreciated and respected here. I won't forget it. Thank you all for your contributions to this most special of internet corners, to the amazing Klipsch brand, and to me personally and professionally. I will definitely keep in touch. With love, Queen Emeritus
  31. 14 points
    I thought there might be a special section of this forum for new member introductions but a search revealed that the most likely place would be in this section. I'm sure I could lurk here indefinitely gleaning mass quantities of information about Klipsch speakers that I couldn't find anywhere else but I thought I should introduce myself anyway. I've already found quite a lot of information which has helped me figure out how to proceed with some cosmetic repair as well as performance updates to the new/used Heresy I speakers I recently purchased. Attached is a "before" photo of one of these speakers. They'll never be beauty contest winners but I think with some new grill cloth and a bit of cleaning and treatment of the finish they won't look embarrassing. In terms of sound the plan is to update and replace the crossover components too. I'm not a newcomer to Klipsch speakers however. My high school band director in the early 70s introduced us to Klipsch with a pair of corner horns in the band hall. I've been hooked ever since then. He also had taught band in Hope, Arkansas and used to recount stories of working at the plant during the summers and having discussion with Paul Klipsch about music and speaker design. I had always been intrigued by these stories - not all of them about audio necessarily. Both had a great sense of humor. He had a two track reel to reel tape deck (made by Bell) in a custom made wooden carrying box that PWK used to carry with him in his airplane when traveling to do audio demonstrations. He passed that tape deck onto me when I was in college and then sometime later - late 80s or 90s - I made a trip through Hope, stopped at the museum, and donated the machine to the museum. Of particular note about this tape deck was that the "Bell" in Bell Electronics had an extra "e" penciled in to the name making it "Belle". I"m not sure if the museum actually put it on display since I haven't been back since then to find out. The first Klipsch speakers I ever purchased were a set of KG4 that I bought new. It was all I could afford at the time. A few years later and back when I was in a house that had room for bigger speakers I ended up buying a pair of La Scalas (maybe two pair on two different occasions if I remember correctly), selling them, then buying two different pairs of Klipschorns (but not at the same time). The first pair were mismatched from different years and different finishes but the second pair (after I sold those) were matched and wonderful! A series of moves made it impossible to keep them however. After that the KG4s kept me in Klipsch sound until buying these Heresy speakers just a few weeks ago. I've always been intrigued with the design and have a set of technical papers that my former high school band director gave me. One of the things that I believe makes horn loaded speakers, and especially Klipsch because they do it well, so appealing to me is the reduction of intermodulation distortion caused by limiting the amount of diaphragm movement through coupling to a horn. It's strange but I rarely see this mentioned in defense of the design. Efficiency, sensitivity, and controlled directivity is mentioned but the lower distortion, especially from high volume and high level transients, is not talked about so much. I credit that aspect with being one of the reasons that I believe they reproduce brass music (I am a brass player, trombone specifically, as if you couldn't guess from my user name) so well. To me the brass section of orchestras doesn't sound realistic through most other speakers. The brass section my come through loud on other speakers but there's no power behind it. Not only did my band director influence me in my preference for Klipsch speakers, he also contributed to my decision to become a band and orchestra director 40 years ago - and now, after 35+ years of teaching, a professional trombonist. So, here's my latest project. The little Heresies are just about the perfect size for my small office/practice room. Looking forward to hearing about everyone's interest and experience with their Klipsch speakers and learning more about these great speakers! Ken
  32. 14 points
    Some frequently-asked potential buyer questions (FAQs) for the home version Klipsch Jubilee: 1) What is a Jubilee? The Klipsch Jubilee consists of a redesigned dual-mouth ("W" section) bass bin having horn expansion path in one axis (versus both the horizontal and vertical in the original Khorn bass bin), and the K-402 high frequency horn on top that uses a full-range 2" compression driver, thus bringing the Klipschorn design back to its original two-way design of the 1940s and '50s that its inventor wished it to be. The crossover point is nominally 450-500 Hz. As sold by Klipsch, the two-way home version Jubilee was intended to be bi-amped using a DSP crossover, i.e., a "loudspeaker processor", for crossover and EQ balancing--the thin dark gray box on top of preamplifier in the photo below is one DSP crossover that is used with the Klipsch Jubilee. Third party passive crossovers are not supported by Klipsch, although there are passive schematics for the K-69-A compression driver and TAD TD-4002 compression driver (both drivers now discontinued). 2) What's so special about the Jubilee? Why should I consider buying them? The Klipsch Jubilee was originally developed to be the replacement for the Klipschorn (corner horn). Paul Klipsch intended to call it a "Klipschorn II", but its performance so exceeded the expectations of its inventor that the decision was made to call it the "Jubilee" in commemoration of the 50th year of the Klipschorn introduction to the marketplace in the mid-late 1940s. The Klipschorn is the only known loudspeaker to be in continuous production for all of those 50 years. Many that have heard Klipsch Jubilees consider them to be the finest loudspeaker that Klipsch produces. If you hear them, you'll understand why. The advantages of the Jubilee design over the original Klipschorn are: time alignment of the entire loudspeaker, leading to more neutral sounding loudspeakers overall without crossover interference band-induced timbre changes much better directivity vs. frequency of its acoustic output, leading to a huge soundstage image and very smooth sounding performance overall higher efficiency of both the bass bin and hf horn/driver due to the elimination of the passive crossover extremely low reactance load--direct connect to drivers to maximize driver damping much better frequency response flatness using the built-in equalizing filters in the DSP crossover to correct for the controlled directivity K-402 horn/driver and room response variances, especially in the midbass and below frequency bands Some history of the Klipsch Jubilee design, its bass bin, and K-402 horn can also be found here: 3) How much does a Klipsch Jubilee cost? The two-way Jubilees cost somewhat less than new Klipschorns. 4) What product ordering options are available? Klipsch provides a bass bin front panel veneer in a number of veneer choices. The K-691 compression driver (rebranded B&C DE75) is the standard driver bundled with the two-way home version Jubilee. 5) Where can I hear a pair of Jubilees? See the following thread: 6) Where can I buy a Jubilee? The two-way (home hi-fi version) Jubilee can be ordered in the U.S. through @MetropolisLakeOutfitters --a Klipsch dealer. Other dealers can be found through contacting Roy Delgado (roy.delgado@klipsch.com). 7) Does Klipsch provide setup support? If not, where can I get help? Klipsch does not provide setup support for these loudspeakers. Additional help can be obtained through Jubilee owners here on the Klipsch Forum. Free help with getting them dialed-in using DSP crossover can be obtained through @Chris A via email support using Room EQ Wizard (REW) and your chosen DSP crossover. It is recommended that you first consider using a Xilica crossover (XP or XD series) to facilitate the dialing-in tasks, although other DSP crossover types can also be used. It is also recommended that you use a better quality DSP crossover than a miniDSP, Behringer, and the entry-level dbx Driverack. 8 ) What active crossovers are used? What's recommended ? How do I program it? Several types of DSP crossovers have been used with the two-way home version Jubilee, including the older ElectroVoice Dx38 and its successor DC-One, Yamaha SP2060, Ashly Protea, and Xilica XP series. If buying through MetropolisLakeOutfitters, preloading of Xilica XP processor settings developed by Roy Delgado of Klipsch is an option supported by the dealer. 9) How do I buy a Jubilee if I don't live in the U.S.? What are my options? Contact Roy Delgado (roy.delgado@klipsch.com) to discuss your options for international sales. Note that most Klipsch dealers do not often handle Klipsch Professional products (i.e., cinema). Based on the history of difficulties getting the correct configuration for two-way home hi-fi operation, it is recommended to email Roy Delgado before contacting your local Klipsch dealer if you do not live and ship to the U.S. Chris
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    I may have posted here before but search didn't get any hits... Anyways, you guys have some awesome dedicated rooms. If and when I ever move, a dedicated theater room will be a priority. My living room serves me well for now however as my multi purpose media room. Belle's for 2 channel system and a reference series setup for movies and tv.......
  35. 14 points
    Built the separate bass bin and tophat for a friend using Crites 15" cast frame woofers, K500 horns and xovers purchased from a forum member (Thanks Al) wit K77 tweeters. The tophat is movable and the risers are covered with felt on the bottom to prevent scratching the cabinets. Cherry veneer with poly finish and rubbed down with 0000 steel wool and finishing wax. Custom made new 1/2" ply grills with hidden neo magnets.
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    This was taken by my older son... Invidiosulus on the forums. His two daughters.
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    Not my first Klipsch experience but this was my first Klipsh "Heritage" experience. I already had a very satisfying Reference surround sound set up but as most of us here tend to do, I look on Craigslist occasionally and saw this. I think I stared for several minutes in disbelief before I grabbed my phone. Still available after 17 hours on CL Maybe being in the furniture section helped delay the feeding frenzy. I arrived at the scheduled time we set up and could only see the 4 tops in his garage. The dark marks on the top right is from me sweating while I leaned over them as it was very hot that day. They were extremely dry and in need of some oiling. Leaned over to snap a picture of the front of one I really went there with the intention of buying a pair as space was an issue if I took both pairs. He said "I'll knock off 50.00 if you take all 4............SOLD! I'm not really into flipping gear but I knew I could more than recover my investment by selling the extra pair. I did let the extra pair go after more than a year of them sitting in a spare room. I sold them for about 500 to 1000 below market value to a forum member and have zero regrets as they are now being used and enjoyed. The gentleman that I got them from had bought them new in '82 and knew what they were worth. He just wanted the space and was happy to see them go to another enthusiasts. All loaded up and safely home. 4 fit easily in a Ford Ranger with the tailgate closed. Some cleaning and a few applications of BLO. You can see on the end how dry they were before oiling in the before and after pic. Current resting area
  39. 14 points
    Back home after the New Mexico trip. 13 hours from Ruidoso to the White Sands Monument, thru El Paso. Not bad for this family. While gone N.E. Texas had a little blow early this morning. Here is a photo of the storm as it passed about 200 yards behind my mother's place. Edit: as it passed over town added
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    Here is my photo, it did happen...
  43. 14 points
    How about this: I have given my opinion about just about everything over the years and will let you know if my opinion changes. Good caps don't change at all for many years, so no break in. PWK said letting impedance rise was a good thing to the amp. I agree with him. A few of Al's customers have called me to ask why they keep burning up swamping resistors. Why does Al not seem to have ever heard that? A speaker with it's crossover, drivers, cabinet and porting should be considered a unit and tested as such. Acoustic output is the important thing. Bob Crites
  44. 14 points
    Wasn't sure where to post this. As Tasdom mentioned in his Garage Sale post, I now have the Belles. It started with a 6 hour drive Friday night from the Denver area for which 3 hours I was entertained with quite a lightning show. I arrived at Tasdom's home the next morning and he had the Belles all hooked up for test drive. I learned quite a few things from him and his current setup. Thanks again Tasdom for the beautiful speakers and education on your setup. So I spent the afternoon working on the Belles. One of them had several gouges and chips. I decided to try the dark walnut Howard's Restore Finish product with some steel wool. It actually brought out the gouges even more, but there is a nice even color on the speakers now. I had some leftover stain from my recent refinish of some Heathkit/Altec Valencias so I used a small touchup brush to cover up the chips. Based on Tasdom's setup, I considered trying to have both the Belles and the Forte IIs upfront, to use the Fortes for the home theater daily use and use the Belles as dedicated two channel music. But once the LaScalas were out of the way and the Belles in place, it looked too good to clutter it up with 2 sets of speakers. What I did do is hookup my vintage Altec tube receiver and used an amp/speaker switcher. The home theater is hooked up to a Pioneer receiver. The Altec is hooked up to a Onkyo CD player through an Emotiva Stealth DAC so I can adjust the volume. This worked out well, because the the vintage Altec receiver has a bass and treble control, along with a rumble filter and loudness switch. I'm able to dial up the bass a bit - Tasdom had the Belles going through an equalizer to bump up both the bass and treble. So far everything sounds great and I think it will be movie night tonight. I like the fact that the Belles aren't as deep, as the LaScalas were sticking out much further forward than the media center. I plan on using them stock for a while, and then upgrading to the ALK Universals. I use the living room system (I have a full home theater in the basement) more in the winter, because it's nice to watch football and movies near the wood burning stove. The Academy center is a little off center in the photo, but the tv is on an adjust mount and is off center. I may stain the Academy with some matching walnut. The furniture movers seem to fit underneath the speakers just right, so I'm going to leave them for now.
  45. 14 points
    Hello Klipsch. I wanted to take a moment to say Happy Birthday to our founder Paul Wilber Klipsch. Today would have been his 111th birthday. I knew Paul and Valerie a number of years before I started working for the company. I only had a few conversations with him about audio. Most of our talks were about life. We talked about love and loss, the past and the future and the usual planes, trains and automobiles. Paul always struck me as a man that loved to learn. I could be about stuff or people or how the world worked, but he was always looking for new things and how to make the old things better. I have seen him make changes to a math equation 40 years old while in his 90’s. He had such an amazing mind. I miss his stories. …I can just see him talking to Gabriel about changes his horn. So, if you have a bottle of Scotch around, raise a glass to PWK. I know I will. Trey Cannon – Systems Engineer
  46. 13 points
    And they accepted! We are stoked! We'll be going from the typical neighborhood plat of .25 to .3 acres to close to an acre where we'll be building a new house hopefully this year (have to sell this one we're in). The back side backs up to about 50 acres that most likely ever won't be built on so close neighbors will be at a minimim. And yes... I'll have my dedicated audio room where I can keep all my toys...and new Belles. The house we're building will be around 2700 square feet with a much better layout than the current. I mentioned that I'll have my own room for stuff, right? If you pray, add us in your prayers for all that's about to conspire. We are excited and looking forward to building our own home from the ground up.
  47. 13 points
    One of my friends has 2 tickets for the 2019 Super Bowl, both box seats. He paid $2,000 for both tickets, but he didn't realize last year when he bought them it was going to be the same weekend as his wedding. If you are interested, he is looking for someone to take his place. It's at St John's Episcopal Church in Martinsburg WV at 2:00 PM. Her name is Connie, she'll be the one in the white dress.
  48. 13 points
    They're here. They look and sound AMAZING.
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    So after hearing palladiums a few months ago i have been itching to try them in my own home. i decided to total up all the money i have in gear around the house, and decided to see what all i can start selling. so while i am losing a lot of gear (that i don't really need) i can finally find out how the klipsch palladiums sound in my home. to me its a price to pay to end the wondering. so selling bedroom setups, and computer setups, and setups i have in storage just because. the only things i will not be selling is anything from my downstairs home theater, and the wife said the cornwalls better not be going anywhere! (I really do love this woman) so on to what i have coming. on friday i ordered the p-27c in merlot. it should be here tomorrow. now i have p-17's payed for but the seller is really pushing the towers on me. i like towers much better than bookshelves as far as looks. plus the thought of having bookshelves on stands with a 4 year old whizzing by them scares me. so i still haven't decided if i am gonna (or can) fork over the money for the towers. since i am selling all my stuff, i will be getting rid of the projector and screen in the living room. me and the wife are ok with it cause we have so many windows so frankly i'm excited to take the kuro out of storage and get it back up. i have a gentleman buying it and a whole 5.1 package from me. i always have good luck selling full packages to people as it just comes easier to me than selling separate pieces. so i have to find a new avr eventually if the palladiums end up staying. i will use my once 805 for right now. HOWEVER i do have to find a subwoofer for the living room. and foot print can't be huge, just don't have the space for it. pics will come once the stuff gets here. and as usual waiting is the hardest part...
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