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Very possible, my SPL-120 hits way better than the R-120SW it replaced, my wife actually worries if we are pissing off the neighbors at times with it. I keep the levels down after hours. Not using the WA-2 feature now, but nice to have it later when I am no longer in an apartment. Containing ultra low frequency response would be difficult.

The consensus is they have been known to inject things at times to steer those into other brands especially after they started going with a paid subscriber model. No one that owns Cinema 800's I spoke with understands what they posted. It is true that Atmos gets mixed to the the left and right mains due to not having dedicated Atmos speakers like the Cinema 1200's, but the mains do indeed play discrete when they are supposed to. My son loves the setup (I added an unused R120-SW to it, but not the surround speakers).

In REW you can turn that down. It's not simple to work with it and many fail at it.

my room is about 10x12, nothing is in wall/ceiling. I am doing 5.1.2. In a small room, you may not gain much with rear atmos.

From Delray Beach here Being you are from here, we have been having some major storms lately. For a client we lost two firewalls and an AP. A couple years ago my Vizio TV got zapped. I have surge protectors and all that, didn't bother putting in a claim. Also our power for the most part is terrible at time with fluxuations up and down (terrible for electronics). Check eBay, a lot of times people are selling the soundbars only. Did you contact Klipsch to see about options? They are closing out a lot of things now and they may have a mismatched soundbar laying around.

Been reading up a lot on this subject and while Audyssey was 'the way' a decade or so ago, now with software we can do our own Audyssey and be more accurate and even far better in sampling multiple conditions. I have XT32 and I have not been impressed with it, I did my own measurements and entered them and it sounded more balanced right off the bat. This video really inspired me to give it a go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ-Voqr4b0Y He talks about Accourate and it's a bit more advanced and can get far more accuracy, but it's a $500 application (I am not sure if the 14 day trial they offer allows full access to all aspects of the program). I bought a UMIK-1 (the 2 model is really not needed for just room correction), I had a tripod and downloaded the REW software and the extras the above video recommended. I am going to have to plan a weekend to do this and hopefully don't drive my neighbors/family mad with all the chirping it will need. If anyone has any advice if Ratbuddyessy would make the above easier let me know. Anyone gone down this road, care to comment? ^Å^

System looks solid, as Wuzz said the 5800's are highly used. I couldn't go in ceiling so went with the RP-500 SA (I am sure newer versions are out now). My build is in my sig. Sounds excellent and now I am going to get started trying to tune more with REW and a UMIK-1 and Ratbuddyessy (I need to read more on it).

Format is in the speaker type, (what I think the crossover should be), and then what the speaker is rated +/-3dB to. I have been told to put all speakers at the "small" setting. Not sure if my front stage is better left full range/LFE+Main. I have been reading and see that a crossover should be set around where the speaker is -3 to -6 dB. I want to get it to some baseline and then play with the UMIK-1 and REW I just picked up. Mostly just going to room correction/level matching as I have nothing I can upload a correction file to. My room measurements are: 9' TV dist 8.5' seat to center 9' main speaker width 10x12 room Low Pass Chorus II (full-range or 40) 39Hz Academy (60 or 80) 65Hz RP-500SA (150 Klipsch recommended) not listed RP-250S (60 or 80) 58Hz High Pass SPL-120 (125Hz) 24-125Hz

Can you actually stack subs? If we can do that there will be room. I have REW and Umik-1 to test for phase / issues.

This is a good thread with some answers: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/costco-exclusive-klipsch-reference-cinema-system-with-dolby-atmos-5-1-4.3219069/ What to upgrade really depends on a lot of things. For most they go with better subs, those that can hit below 20Hz...but if you live in an apartment that could be an issue. Then they will upgrade mains/center, but if you don't have the room then that's an impossible upgrade. For $400 that is a steal though. I just snagged a Cinema 800 for $399 and this system will smoke that, sure you need a receiver but that is low-hanging fruit. I always check accessories4less.com for receivers. They are one of the best bang for bucks and you get a warranty (unlike ebay). You can pick up a RX-V385 there for only $199. For a $300 budget you can get either the RX-V585 or RX-V680. I used to run Yamaha, but now I run Denon. If you can push the budget $99 you can get into a RX-V685 which brings more especially better YPAO RSC and another $100 can get you into a RX-A2A which offers more including HDR10+ as well as part of their premium lineup so all the electronics inside will be better. They have your reference system for $100 more than you paid though, like I said that was a really good purchase if those fill your needs and if you just wanted something to start out with will sound great as you upgrade and in the end you are not out a lot of money.

There is a new in box set of Chorus II's on ebay for $7500 free pickup in Central Square, NY. They are matching serials in oiled Oak.

Ideally you want timbre matched speakers...they don't have to be the same form-factor. Also with things like DIRAC and Audessy, things can be a bit more lax. My setup is pretty mixed, but sounds excellent for movies. People actually ask about what I have and how they can duplicate it. The Chorus II's and academy are still amazing today, sadly most don't want to pay the prices they are getting. There is a new in box set of Chorus II's on ebay for $7500 free pickup in Central Square, NY. They are matching serials in oiled Oak.

I picked up some Momentus 4's from Senn. for a good price and they sound decent and have amazing battery life. I was using Soundcore Liberty 2 and 3 pros. I like the liberty 2's the best, but they don't charge half the time and when they do charge I can't get through a whole night of listening (mostly just youtube videos).

Thanks Wuz, the problem is there isn't enough room I think. I am going to set it up though and then figure out if we can add the surrounds (Klipsch 3's not sure if the 5's can work).

I know the R-120SW isn't a great sub, but since I am stuck with it it's good to know I can upgrade the Cinema 800 for my kids. I wanted a Samsung 9x0 setup, but when I found the Cinema 800 new open box for $399 shipped, it's a helluva deal. It's also only for a bedroom. If I could do it over, I'd order them the SPL-120 like I ended up with. I was shopping Amazon for subs and was "saving items" for later because of Prime Day coming up. Somehow I did a buy it now on the R-120SW.