Pistol Pete

If your pretty sure its a solid 2 db then id start by cleaning the driver and speaker wiring connections. 2dB is quite abit for a single driver to be off if you ask me. What SPL level are you testing at and does it vary? For example how db is it off at 80dB vs 95dB ?

20 seconds? Hardcore snipers bid at the last 4-7 seconds.

---------------- On 9/1/2004 3:31:15 PM D-MAN wrote: After reading what-his-face's self-promoting "white-paper" on the pi corner horn modeled on the original Klipsch 1946 paper "A New Horn Loudspeaker of Small Proportions", I thought that it was too much... No number of 6" drivers are going to beat a Khorn. So I wrote them off as viable contenders... Not even in the same league, IMO. DM ---------------- What white paper are you reffering to? The Pi Speaker Alignment Theory? .. http://www.pispeakers.com/PiAlign.doc I am not sure what you are talking about but no Pi speakers use anything smaller than an 8" driver.

The horn is an Eminence H-290, Radial 90x40 , I did not build the corner horns simply because I dont have the space for such a large speaker. Mine are one of the smaller speakers from Pi. Thanks for the compliment but my work is nothing compared to some other home built Pi speakers, check out the gallery.. http://home.comcast.net/~bentvalve/pigallery.htm

First and foremost , I respect and enjoy Klipsch speakers , after all even after I got rid of my Klipschs I still enjoy reading here. Anyways I built some Studio Series 4 Pis from http://www.pispeakers.com , details are here, http://home.comcast.net/~bentvalve/pi.htm Its been around a month now and I cannot believe what a major leap these were from my RF-3IIs, I have heard LaScalas , RF-7s and the KLF20s and I feel as though my Pis outperform all of them. $750 and some time and I have a true lifetime set of speakers..there simply is not much else to be desired in a speaker from here. These are unbelievably dynamic , powerful and detailed sounding...extremely delicate when needed and powerful and explosive when needed. These are really quite easy to build , I highly recommend these to any Klispch owners who might be looking for other alternatives in horn speakers. Pi is owned my Wayne Parham who has been building and designing speakers since the 70s....there are models for as low as $100 a pair for the parts on up to $1000 and more. Wayne shares the plans for free over the internet, just go the his forum and ask. Well I hope I am not intruding here at Klipsch because that is not my goal, I just wanted to let Klispch owners know about these great speakers.

---------------- On 8/29/2004 7:56:40 PM doshi99 wrote: Hey Guys.... Just went to the Good Guys in Northridge, CA and picked up the pair for $379 ($405 with tax). They didnt give me any kind of problems. The manager even looked at the price twice and said "Is this right?" and the salesmen helping me said "Yeah Boss, its a special price." If you guys try and complain, saying hey it printed as $379, you can probably get them. I dont know, give it a try. It worked for me and I am happy as he*l. Just upgraded from a RF-25 to the 5's, but the thing that sucks is that I remember paying over $500 for the 25's.... ---------------- Congrats, you got lucky...only thing is you should have purchased their entire inventory because you would have at least doubled your money! My store new about the error before they opened..the Mgr is anal.

---------------- On 8/29/2004 7:56:40 PM doshi99 wrote: Hey Guys.... Just went to the Good Guys in Northridge, CA and picked up the pair for $379 ($405 with tax). They didnt give me any kind of problems. The manager even looked at the price twice and said "Is this right?" and the salesmen helping me said "Yeah Boss, its a special price." If you guys try and complain, saying hey it printed as $379, you can probably get them. I dont know, give it a try. It worked for me and I am happy as he*l. Just upgraded from a RF-25 to the 5's, but the thing that sucks is that I remember paying over $500 for the 25's.... ---------------- Congrats, you got lucky...only thing is you should have purchased their entire inventory because you would have at least doubled your money! My store new about the error before they opened..the Mgr is anal.

Yep its a Typo...just went to my local Good Guys for something else and they are $374 each , not a pair...still a good deal though.

WOW! That is low!!

Well I am no longer a Klipsch owner but I still like Klispch speakers and I do at least own an Aragon Soundstage. https://home.comcast.net/~bentvalve/

ok its still available as several folks have backed out or not gotten back to me ......and the price is lowered.

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its back up for sale.

Heck i'd be happy with 5 Academy's , this is a nice sounding speaker! Unfortunately I just dont have the room for the speakers it matches with except the Heresy II so I am probably going to sell it after all.

I picked up and Academy center for a good price and was just going to use it for a short while while I am between speakers then resell it but I may consider keeping it if I can find some mains to go with it. Reading up on it at Klipsch.com I see it matches with the Chorus II, Cornwall II , Forte II and Quartet. Does it match well with any others such as Heresys or? I just sold my RF-3IIs and RC-3II mains and center, I switched out every component on my rack trying to get the RF-3IIs to work out for 2 channel music and it just did not pan out. I was not planning on going with Klipsch speakers but if I can get a nice combination going with the Academy then maybe I will try Klipsch one more time.

I had this up for sale on Ebay and Home Theater Forum as well...I visit this site maybe once a week.

Hi, sorry but PMs are not easily noticed here at this forum since you dont get a POP up when you get one. Sorry for not getting back to you. The 3300 has been sold. Sorry.

SOLD!!!!!!!!!

"harsh">>>>>> Yes that was abit harsh but his statement was not very productive either...anyhow lets move on, shall we? "how did you get that dent?">>>>> DHL dropped the box smack dab on that corner of the box..and mind you this is a pretty reasonable box and custom dense foamlike stuff surrounded the Soundstage as well, the corner had to be pushed in roughly 3-4 inches to contact the Soundstage corner. @ 35lbs I'd imagine it had to fall at least 5' , if it had just landed on the side it probably would have been fine but the corner of the box took the entire load. The buttons on the unit would not work when I first hooked it up...the face had been pushed out of alignment ..I adjusted the face and everything else seems ok now but its no longer mint as it was. What I have going for me is the sender put this on my DHL account and sent it overnight express even after I specifically asked her to send it ground....its going to cost nearly $200 in shipping. Anyways the good news is that since it was shipped express and its a high dollar shipping tab DHL will most likely make it good. At the very least I'll get a new face plate, a factory check-up from Aragon and my shipping cost waived...at best I'll get every cent back that I paid for it , the shipping fee waived and get to keep the unit I have. If I really wanted to work them I could get a new Stage One out of the deal..but since DHL has been co-operative so far I'll take the high road.

Thanks Pal but I am quite compentant with Adobe Photoshop , the pic is big because that is how I want it. Why don't you get a job so you can pay for high speed internet...I dont cater to dial up users, sorry.

I have replaced my Yamaha RX-V3300 with an Aragon Soundstage ..reason: looking for better 2 channel and a better overall match for my Klipsch Reference speakers. BTW yes that is a dent on the Soundstage..luckily that was the only damage that I can find so far and DHL will pay for that...I'll probably come out ahead when I am done with them.

Well worse case scenario , I would help get any warranty work done..heck how do they know if your Brother or Uncle bought it for you? If you have a reciept from a legit authorized dealer I doubt youd have any issue getting any work done.

SOLD!!!!!!!

Update: The HCA-1500A did not work ..although it certainly did help and I am keeping it. I also thought I had the issue somewhat handled with an old Sony ES CD player I had. So to sum it up here is what I have tried so far: ~5 different sources including an esoteric external DAC Various room treatments and speaker placments Power conditioning and better quality cables Turning down the treble on my receiver. BTW I have a Yamaha RX-V3300 receiver not a Denon as some people above think...I used to have a Denon when I first got into HT and they just are not my cup of tea. Anways there is only one thing left to to before I give up on the Klipschs...change out my beloved RX-V3300. I think most people would not consider getting rid of the Yamaha because its a real sweetie but I want to keep the Klipschs. So I bought an Aragon Soundstage Pre-amp to replace the Yamaha, by all accounts this is about as good a match for the Klipschs as I will ever find. I'll have it in a week or so and will post an update afterwards.l

I'd recommend against the RB-25s because when you hear them you will feel like you got jipped on your RF-7s...they are that good.