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does this meet your criteria? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882115196&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Receivers-_-Yamaha-_-82115196 it's on sale for another two days

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Think about a Onkyo sr806 in that price range. 130WPC and pre outs. I have been completely happy with mine. very very quite opperation.I got mine NEW from amazon for about 625 shipped. I wanted the nr906 with netwrok capabilites, but the extra price wasnt affordable at the time. Make sure you get the"S" version if you do opt for the onkyo Technical Specifications Power Output: 130 W/Channel (8 ohms, 1 kHz) THX Certified: THX Ultra2 Plus™ Amplifier Frequency Response: 5Hz-100kHz S/N Ratio (LINE IN): 106dB HDMI video up-conversion with DCDi Cinema technology Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding DTS Decoder: DTS-HD Master Audio Music Optimizer: Yes Audyssey Dynamic EQ: Yes Faroudja DCDi Edge™ 192K/24 Bit DACs: Yes Multi-Band Speaker EQ: 5 Band Audio I/O: 8/2 Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX): 3/3 Composite I/O: 5/1 S-Video I/O: 5/1 Front-Panel Optical: Yes Component Video / Bandwidth: 2/1/50MHz HDMI V1.3a repeater:: 5in/1out, 1080p compatible 480i to 480p Processing: DCDi Cinema 1080i Upscaling: DCDi Cinema 1080p Upscaling: DCDi Cinema Powered Zone2: Yes Zone 2 Line Out: Yes iPod Ready: DS-A2x, DS-A2, DS-A1 Auto Speaker Calibration W/Mic: Audyssey Multi EQ

Can anyone else elaborate on the pre out scenerio please? I am using a integrated receiver now to that does nhave pre outs... how do I set up my system to use these feature?

I regulalry still use a 1.44... but I have a unique situation. Point was well taken though as OWNING a physical item will soon be outside of market norm

In the older days... the metalics were known to oxidize. this was a major concern in some Laser Disks

LOL... Winnar^

What I hate is having to clean the Doohicky wihen it fully loaded with chochki's and covered in dust

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Lol... Component Cabinet?

IM'ed you

OP... check the import sources. They are making and selling sacd's by the boat full

I see... I understand supply and demand and the consumer/market doesn't always choose the best solution. Frankly, no format is the best format... either streaming or download with no hard copy save for whats on your HardDrive. best get use to that, because that's where we're going for everything including TV, movies and music. the few high Def downloads I have bought are pretty good, but I still like a hard copy... for now anyway

Point being?

Onkyo user here to... 806(S model) for about $530 shipped. I am still wondering how to hook up pre outs... anyone?

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Yes you can play CD's on SACD player... they are actually DVD players. Check out the onkyo sp506 dvd player. It samples 24bit @192hz and has three Burr-Brown DACs, and wil play most all your favorite formats... $215 shipped on B&H. I wont be using the dvd myself. I would even be getting this unit if someone could confirm playback specifications on the ps, but no one can so. Downsampling is the process of reducing the rate at which something is sampled. eg 2.8mhz is more than three times the rate of 44khz,which is where most player reside. The bit depth is also broken down into more pieces on sacd/dvda so in total you are looking at a technology that has more resolution... more bit depth and at a higher rate. Think of it as an X and Y axis... If bit depth is Y, on a CD this vector is broken down into 16 pieces...on SACD it is broken down into 32 pieces or bits.. The X axis is the rate at which an object is moving along or being sampled... CD will move along at 44hz... SACD will move along ar 2.8mhz So you can see that each individual picture being taken at any single instant during music sampling has much more resolution

I may be inclined to agree... but your DAC is really important in this mater(obviously). I am still learning myself about all this stuff.

That's funny because I see sacds commanding high prices. and while the manufacture of the disks is hit or miss.... over seas suppliers seem to be flowing with new title. The Pixies just released two new sacds, Doolittle and Bossanova and Genesis has the new version of Nursery Crime

I found out the PS3 plays sacd's fine... but no one can still tell me for sure if they are being down sampled. I am pretty sure they are and despite sounding much better than regular cd's(a/b'ed the), I still want more. On to a dedicated player for me. I think many are not realizing that sacd's and dvda's will play on many players already out in the market... but that signal is being down sampled, that defeats the purpose IMHO.

Kodachrome was one of my favorites to... from the last time I used the stuff in about 1992 at about 1/8of the fully resolved original picture size. the stuff was always rich in color depth

I have the opposite advice... get the Onkyo. I am sure both are really good options. I love onkyo products

For for the album is the only way I know how to find them. it's been hit and miss so far, though there are some areas in the world where sacds continue to be offere and catalogs continue to grow

Happy birthday Bob, another successful trip around the sun. I just had a short conversation with bob about speaker repair... []

Thats a pretty complete and thurough description.[Y] FYI... the SP506 Onkyo unit I talked about above is only 200$ shipped from B&H... i would skip the purchase if I could find that teh PS3 was giving me all that I wanted out of the sacds... but I can not get a straight answer on play back, so I am going to make the dedicated player purchase.