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Those are some PRETTY speakers!! []

Not sure how to word this... I think there was 'more' bass as a matter of perspective. 1st: I don't EVER run the full Jubilee setup with 100 wpc pegging on my 2102. If I DID do that, I don't know how much the bass bin would be putting out 2nd: Since last night, I DID run (how ever many watts in the bass bin it would be if I ran the HF section at 100 watts) full out, I had "that amount" of bass in the room that I'd otherwise not ever have 3rd: Since the Heresy is less efficient, less coverage less of less than the K402, I really think I simply had "less high frequencies" as contrasted with "more bass" however, the net effect of the mating was, a predominance of POUNDING going on, that otherwise, would not be noticed because if I had the throttle at the same volume with the 402's on top, it would have been loud/pounding yes, but also deafening. It really was an interesting experiment. It made me contemplate buying a pair of Heresy's myself, just so I can doodle around with this again, or perhaps, for someone else...or perhaps... for a time when I might want to accentuate the bass but keep a clean sound on top. I have tried I suppose, to create this simiar reality with the Jubilees themselves (playing with the Dx38 and changing the attenuation between the two halves). I've never really liked the balance I got when I did that though as the bass seemed to become too much (perhaps because it is crossed at 500 hz?) With it crossed at 80, it really just acted more like a subwoofer I suppose?

I think Delbert would be an excellent idea for tonight!! Glad I thought of it! [:$] []

I WAS going to simply leave it at 1 Heresy & 1 402, but curiosity got the better of me. I don't know how to word this, but with the 402's on top, the system sounds HUGE and dangerous (afraid to pump 100 wpc into 402 with commensurate wattage to bass bins) With the Heresy's on top, the system sounds "smaller" HOWEVER, it seems to simply be WICKEDLY strong in the bass department. Much more "strong" than with the 100% Jubilee setup. I must admit, given my short term experiement last night, I REALLY liked the Heresy on top. I think, what I really probably liked, was the extra presence of STRONG bass, yet not muddy. It really sounded like it had authority (which trust me, it did) Too bad wife is off today... kind of precludes me from going home and stepping on the throttle a little more & try different things. Oh, Mr. Colter... trust me...I've not run anything more than 4 wpc into your Heresy's... anything I've said above is simply not true! []

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I posted this on AK last night when this place went down. As most know, as the story unfolds, I'm picking up some local Heresy's to deliver to Colter in Indy. He is then, picking up Jay's Heresy's to hand to me when I'm with him, for me to bring back here for a friend. I wanted to play with the Heresy's last night and I put them atop the Jubilees. I'd asked Roy earlier about it and he said to cross at 80. I simpy put the H's on top of the Jubes, connected the Heresy's to my 2102 and didn't touch the bass bins. I ended up crossing at 80 to begin with allowing what ever 'tweeks" Roy has for the Jube bass bin to stay, while sending an unaltered signal to the Heresy's (man, I am really starting to like this Ev DX-38) The sound was utterly fantastic. I think the bass heads here would have really gotten off on it, why? Because there was seemingly twice the bass in the room, but it was CLEAN and SOLID. I think a more accurate story about what was going on, wasn't there was twice as much bass, as opposed to 1/2 as much HF material going on!! That really helped illustrate to me the power of that K402. I also ended up playing around more with the EV, sending the FULL signal to the Heresy and then tried to fill in with the Jubes. During this process, I really got a better understanding for how high the jubes go. They really kind of clashed with the Heresy in that (how to say this without confusing myself), the upper reaches of the low end, overpowered the lower end (mids?) of the Heresy's. By the time I toned the Jubes down, the SOLID backup also drained away. I REALLY liked it a WHOLE lot more simply crossing over at 80 hz just as Roy speculated. The sound blended in pretty well (there WAS a strong bass element in the room, much stronger than with the "un-modified" jubilees []) I put on the Big Phat Band, first cut where there is a lot of drum action. It was lovely. At one point, I had the meters on my 2102 pegging at 100 wpc (no idea what the bass bins were doing). and the walls/floor/my gut were simply being wrenched by the POUNDING that was assulting me. There is NO WAY I would have even tried to be in the NEXT room, had I had the K402 on top. This really helps to quantify it in real terms, to this dumb ole boy, some of the differences between the two, and just how capable the 402 is. I also noticed just how narrow the dispersion is on the Heresy. I really had to be in line of fire to get the full bodied sound. If I went off axis, the higher freq's would greatly subdue. While I had the 402 up, to my left however, I was STILL able to hear a lot of that HF sound that the Heresy lost. My wife got home and spent 5 minutes pouting that I had a mess in the room (402's laying on floor). I told her that I was taking them with me in 3 days and to (basically) get over it lol. Seems she was more playing the martyr than really angry as she ended up laughing at me in sort of a "gotcha" way. (women [:#]) I'm going to leave it there for next day or so and just play with it. The Heresy's are in great condition. The guy Colter bought them from, couldn't have been a nicer guy. Had a very nice wife too. Said these got used about 4 times per year and that was it. Maybe I need to hold them as hostage for ransom??

Update for anyone who's been contacting Jay about these. I'm heading up to Detroit this weekend to go to the autoshow (I completely forgot about it until my dad called me today) So, if timing allows, I'll personally be going via Indy to get them. Ironically, Mr. Colter has recently bought off ebay, some Heresy's that are local to me (just across the lake). I'm going to the sellers house today to pick Colters Heresy's up and if all goes according to plan, I'll be delivering those during the same trip that I'll be picking up Jay's 3 Heresy's to bring back south!! Kinda cool how this is all coming together. I wanted to clarify the apparent ending of the story since the logistics of getting the H-II's to Knoxville, did seem to be an issue.

Does this mean my Jubes are TOAST? []

Ya know, I emailed with him a couple times, asking him if he'd ever heard the Khorns or "of" the Jubilees. He cleanly stated he heard the Jubilees in the state of New York, and didn't like them. Hmm.. Myself = Tennessee Mike = Tennessee 6foot8= Florida (I think?) Ralph = London I've got no idea what he in fact heard, or thinks he heard so I just said 'cool & great system'. Clearly though, the boy has some $$ and willing to part with it.

Maybe another idea is for each TABLE to have it's own personal pair of MCM's?? kind of like "headphones" for the table?

I bet that means if you told us, you'd have to kill us! [*-)]

Jim, I talked to Mike ( already this morning. He said he might have reason to be up your way in the next week or so. If he does, then just give it to him and I'll hook up with him after work one day on my way home.

Glad you made it home safely. Seems you must have driven straight through? (you driving animal!) Do those pictures imply you have ALSO hoisted your amp inside already (in which case, you ARE a certifiable nut [], or were those taken at Jims?)

Ahh yes, I DO believe this is the same Jim!! Good to meet ya C5vette!! I was scratching my head on that for a while (that you had my part). <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Christi, my wifes brother & his family live there. You are right, there is NO reason any sane person would want to visit there, much less live there (coming from me as a city boy). They got wiped out from Katrina. Seems they had so many false alarms over the years (when they ALWAYS loaded up the van with family items) this time, not only did they NOT load the van with anything other than the shirts on their backs, they had several adults in the van and left their other cars parked right next to the levy. They could have saved at least 3 other automobiles Simply another typical (if I may be so insensitive) total loss situation. If you all come through this way, you are certainly welcome to swing by. I got more land I wanna clear and can use some expert, experienced help!! I like your fast clear method []

Christi, I think you hit it on the head. I spoke to him last night, I think he said it was about 13 hours (longer than he anticipated). I drove to Buras once (started at 5:00 PM). Drove STRIAGHT through and as I recall, it was about 12 hours for me. I'm about an hour from Sevierville, so I am right about smack dab in the middle of you two. My all night drive to Buras WAS the drive from he!! !! (especially since we left at 5:00 AFTER a whole day at work) Expecting Fritzie to call me in a while as he loads up to leave Sevierville. Going into town to meet him for breakfast and lead him to my house.

Indeed you will (possibly be able to help). I'm wondering if you mean a couple weeks, or a couple months? (I asked Jay about holding them until the gathering at Klipsch this summer and he's "highly" (my word) interested in getting them gone). If perchance you come via Cincy, I might suggest you stop there (Cincy) and get something to munch on. http://skylinechili.com/ or http://goldstarchili.com/ and for desert http://graeters.com/ I'll keep your offer in mind but knowing Jay's interest in moving them out, I know you'll understand if I keep burning the fire. When you're in Knoxville, if you wanna hear the Jubilees, let me know. I'm about...40 minutes from Terry's house. My office is about 10 minutes from his house. That said, if you want to go ALL out and listen to the Jubilees AND your amps (presuming that's what you're bringing), you can do that to.

Seems he's going to trust me on this. Told me to go ahead & get them. Now the only issue is getting them transported somehow. I don't want to have them shipped, Jay doesn't want to ship them and we're something like 7 hours apart... hmm

THIS Saturday, as in today? I didn't hear nor see anything about that?

I could sit around and talk to you... THAT would put you to sleep!! [pi]

I'll have to let Jay decide if I was on time (first), but I did just in fact, send him an email with authority to buy them from Jim. Soooooooooooo, presuming Jim will be reading this thread, everyone needs to welcome him to the Klipsch family and perhaps, give him a clue as to the treat he's in for.

Well Fritzie, if you're ever in MY neck of the woods, you should stop by & do a Jubilee listen. You'd be welcome as long as I had a 10 minute notice. [6]

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SHUSH!! They do not, now, where were we...back to the love... []

Jay has some Heresy's that I'm trying to convince a friend to buy. I'd prefer to not ship if possible. Jay wants them out of his place to gain the space back. My friend hasn't yet committed to buying them, indeed, he's not home yet and doesn't even know I'm doing this for him. So, with THAT as a setup, I'm trying to see if there is anyone who is in / near the Indy area that will have reason to hit the road in the general direction of Knoxville, TN. (Nashville, Lexington, Louisville) or perhaps, even Knoxville!! Wondering if someone is making that trip for any reason, if we could discuss the possiblity of stowing three Heresy's under your seat? []