oldtimer

I confess to not participating in this thread despite my interest. Any baseball fan will recognize my hesitation as not wanting to jinx their team. Now that it is over I get to breathe a sigh of relief and celebrate as a true native lifetime fan. We used to go to the minor league games before the Rangers showed up (Dallas-Fort Worth Spurs). One of my first summer jobs was working at the old Arlington stadium for the city of Arlington at Rangers games. Those days are long gone as the team farmed out with corporations for stadium work. We proudly were the first major league purveyor of nachos, making fresh fried tortilla chips for every game. Afterwards, the corps used premade chips (boo). You know you are a lifelong fan when you're up 10-4 and you're still nervous until the final out. It has been a long road to finally win it all. I'm surprised Thebes hasn't joined in to lament his team being nowhere near the playoffs...sorry my friend, no one likes them anyway, lol.

Lol. No idea.

Routine now, part of the rules. End of every inning.

Made into one of my sauces, it is a flavorful delight. Still hot, but not stupid. Stupid is people eating fresh super hot chiles right into their mouths.

Interesting. A coworker was also reading this.

Good eats.

Why is it closed to new votes? All I want is to find....ummm....votes.

All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray

Great tune.

Which people would have killed for in the 80s.

Only grape nuts brother...

Thanks. It's all due to the last fish I ate...

Because you already had to fix it. It's older now so how about one seventy fi?

Darn straight no beans!

Hopefully you have the lp with the included booklet. An all time favorite, or should I say favourite. The pre-fab four rule!

Strength of schedule becomes a factor when the CFP system needs to justify doing whatever they really want to do.

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Agreed.

What is likely to get this thread, or any thread closed or hidden are the little dog whistles and agenda seeking posts. Mark, I clearly see your point, but maintain that adhering to the definitions is important, even as we may quibble with how the words are used (by others). Disputing the application is certainly in the ball park. It is the bastardization of language that is an enemy to freedom as well as coherent discourse.

It wasn't. Sorry, I tried. Leaving the pm does result in permanence, but now that we know it that mistake can be avoided. At this rate you may lose interest in your own thread due to propaganda and "beliefs." I stand by my previous post as well as my definitional posts which were a charity for those with such great educational knowledge it rendered them incapable of consulting a dictionary.

There is a format for those who insist on discussing the subject(s) not relevant to the thread. It is called pm's, but experience has shown that many here are too gutless for true freedom such as it can afford. Many would rather whine where it is not appropriate rather than participate where it is.

Your posts are all well and good, but consider the dates, and who was included, and who was not. Then consider the progress made after masses of people were free to pursue an education instead of it being against the law to teach them. The chart I quoted takes into account these differences. Widespread public education, a dream of Jefferson's, along with post war economic factors allowed for the rise of a solid middle class and far more inclusive than before. Also consider the immigration of multitudes of poor people after the civil war and well into the 20th century.

FYI for general knowledge: Why does the New York Times prosper while Gannett struggles? Here are four reasons - Poynter (I have no dog in this hunt. I am not a subscriber, nor a reader, nor a stockholder.)

Percentage of persons 14 years old and over who were illiterate (unable to read or write in any language), by race and nativity: 1870 to 1979 Year Total White Black and other Total Native Foreign-born 1870 20.0 11.5 – – 79.9 1880 17.0 9.4 8.7 12.0 70.0 1890 13.3 7.7 6.2 13.1 56.8 1900 10.7 6.2 4.6 12.9 44.5 1910 7.7 5.0 3.0 12.7 30.5 1920 6.0 4.0 2.0 13.1 23.0 1930 4.3 3.0 1.6 10.8 16.4 1940 2.9 2.0 1.1 9.0 11.5 1947 2.7 1.8 – – 11.0 1950 3.2 – – – – 1952 2.5 1.8 – – 10.2 1959 2.2 1.6 – – 7.5 1969 1.0 0.7 – – 3.6 * 1979 0.6 0.4 – – 1.6 Maybe your facts are different? By 1870 public education was widespread in the US, and it would have been sooner if people had listened to Thomas Jefferson.

Then there is it's nefarious cousin: disinformation definition at DuckDuckGo