Well Dean , I grew up with a guy who in 1979 bought a new pair of La Scalas . Up until 1991 the local Klipsch dealer had a room dedicated to Klipsch speaks ; no such thing as Heritage back then , or at least he never refered to them as such . When I took possesion of my Belles 2 months ago they sounded just as I expected them to , 30 yr. old crossovers and all . I do have a point of reference even though my ears had not heard the big horns in almost 15 yrs. . For 30 yr. old shot networks as you would say they sound very good , allthough a crossover upgrade is #2 on my list of next upgrades . " I simply do not have as much disposable income that some of may have " I still challenge you to come over and hear them for yourself and tell me they are crap , either way I know that will not happen ! Enjoy your lucrative business of fixing the RF's shortcomings , I feel you put in a pretty good plug for that in your previous post above . PS you can PM me about hearing my Belles as they are anytime ! WP