hillbilly

You're right, I guess what I mean is wasting a big amp on something that could be done with less power. Also, now that you mention it I remember reading some opinions about people being unhappy with the bars. I'm going to go through the patchwork of audio cables presently behind my HT, and while I'm at it probably add banana plugs to my speaker cables which would be a good time to consider just doing a quality job on my jumper wires.

russ, No I didn't eliminate the hum, I only quieted it down. I'm not even sure if grounding the coax where it enters the house did anything at all, I actually used an alligator clip jumper wire from the coax directly to a ground post on my power conditioner until I find a better solution. I did replace that shoddy RCA cable to my main map with a better looking one I had laying around (one which didn't accept noise simply by touching it), but of course after discovering a weakness I now want to replace everything. I definitely am not going to continue with the patchwork off cables I have presently. I don't know what weaknesses my system has other than the small room I have it in. It is dynamic and mostly unstrained at any volume level I can stand. At high levels the mid range becomes a bit too much but I don't know if that's the system, the room, or my big ears. That bluejeans website looked alot like what I have in mind.

I've never believed in expensive audio cables but I have a new impression about cheap ones. I had a pair of cheap flimsy RCA cables from my receiver to my main amp that were so poorly shielded that I could grab them with my hand and induce buzzing/humming. I'm now thinking about all new audio cables, but I don't want to go nuts and spend a fortune. This all got started with the CATV. The cable causes a buzz/hum in the speakers. I know it's the cable, simply disonnect the coax and there's silence. I tried grounding the cable to the same place as my home's power and that didn't do much. Then I grounded the cable to the back of my power conditioner and that made the buzz at least quiet. The cable company doesn't care and I can kinda see their point. They don't want to deal with every homeowner with some wiring problem, 90% of which probably have nothing to do with the cable. They tried to tell me I needed a new piece of coax or that the volume was all the way up on my cable box, which I don't even use (optical from the box to the receiver). I have seen something called a ground breaker on the net but have read varying reports of quality and that some don't even pass HD channels.

Anybody know what the crossover point is on CF-3's? I was thinking about an active crossover and 2 amps but I want to see what you guys think. Right now I have a Carver pro amp running them, which would be too powerful to just run the woofers so I am looking at 2 new amps (not necessarily "new"). Otherwise, does anybody have any of the little bars that connect the high and low posts for the aforementioned speakers? I have never had mine and I'm unhappy with the jumper wires...

Most SS gear is direct-coupled, and it handles impedance "mismatches" in stride, withing reason of course. Most tube gear on the other hand, uses transformer coupling, and that is less agreeable with impedance "mismatches" (or say a varying reactance at the other end of the speaker wires)... The sound "imparted" by transformer coupling has been debated for decades now, remember the term "notch distortion", ect., from the "good old days"? What about the like the Mc's SS amps which still use an output transformer? Better or not? Third, the issue of distortion(s) comes into play. Some people like the "round" quality produced by overly slow slew rates of some tube gear that effectively "takes the edge off" of waveforms. The "liquid" midrange effect, et cetera. Whether or not the speakers in question can produce an accurate waveform is notwithstanding... That's what I was talking about. I don't know a hell of alot about it, but my dad told me all about it once. He's an electronics guy and a musician. The difference in sound is not just subjective. I can't imagine screwing around with vinyl. I can't imagine no remote. God bless new technology!!! Ian

Know where to find quiet fans?

I thought tubes didn't have the guts that SS has. Raw power. Can't you just dial in some warmer sound with a EQ/processor? Seems to work with mine. I also thought the warm sound from tubes was mostly "fuzz", kinda like overdriven amps. Distortion?? I'm open to the idea of liking tubes, I just need to hear what everybody is talking about I guess.

I think they're fine. After being a stereo nut for a long time, I have concluded that distrotion kills speakers more than power. People would brag how their amp was so bad *** that it blew their speakers. Yeah, after listening to them too loud for many hours. Like Gil was saying, you can push on a woofer with your hand (apply force evenly) and if you hear a scraping sound then it's got a warped voice coil. That's what I saw with people's car stereo subs. Tweeters, once they blow, just quit playing. (in my experiences) I don't know alot about horns, I am on my first set right now. I have seen a huge amplifier cause a woofer cone to actually physically seperate it's self from the surround, but that was not what you have. It was a big new amp and a crappy 8" speaker. We did it (in high school) just to see if we could. I've also seen melted crossovers. That shouldn't be a problem for you either though, since you turned it down quickly. Good luck. Ian

I saw a post awhile back with a link for quiet amp fans. Now that I have an outboard amp I see what everybody is talking about. It's completely obnoxious during quiet passages. It has quiet/regular mode but quiet doesn't even cut it. I think the thing may even be going out, sounds a little rough. Anyhow, just wondering where to look. Thanks!!

Never heard Lumberjack with Klipsch and big amp. Now I wanna. Nice work on your neighbor. I think mine are scared of me.

That looks amazing. My first time hearing of that method. Right on man!!

Oh yeah, as far *** bass goes I don't remember the exact numbers but something like 60-70% of music power goes to the 300hz and down range. It pays to have beefy subs so you can let the highs do their thing and the subs can wreak their own havoc.

travisc wrote the following post at 01-09-2006 5:36 PM: "oh and the 40hz crossover is too low, it has been recomended to go one octave above your speakers abilities. Set at 80. remember that a crossover is gradualy sloping and your speakers will be going below 80hz. buy two used crown amps for your front end use your yamaha to run the rears, extra money use towards a second sub. Thats the direction I would go" I agree. A great powerful amp will do more to liven up the speakers than anything else IMO.

I wish I felt like protesting would bring about change.

Nice choice!