hillbilly

You're right, I guess what I mean is wasting a big amp on something that could be done with less power. Also, now that you mention it I remember reading some opinions about people being unhappy with the bars. I'm going to go through the patchwork of audio cables presently behind my HT, and while I'm at it probably add banana plugs to my speaker cables which would be a good time to consider just doing a quality job on my jumper wires.

russ, No I didn't eliminate the hum, I only quieted it down. I'm not even sure if grounding the coax where it enters the house did anything at all, I actually used an alligator clip jumper wire from the coax directly to a ground post on my power conditioner until I find a better solution. I did replace that shoddy RCA cable to my main map with a better looking one I had laying around (one which didn't accept noise simply by touching it), but of course after discovering a weakness I now want to replace everything. I definitely am not going to continue with the patchwork off cables I have presently. I don't know what weaknesses my system has other than the small room I have it in. It is dynamic and mostly unstrained at any volume level I can stand. At high levels the mid range becomes a bit too much but I don't know if that's the system, the room, or my big ears. That bluejeans website looked alot like what I have in mind.

I've never believed in expensive audio cables but I have a new impression about cheap ones. I had a pair of cheap flimsy RCA cables from my receiver to my main amp that were so poorly shielded that I could grab them with my hand and induce buzzing/humming. I'm now thinking about all new audio cables, but I don't want to go nuts and spend a fortune. This all got started with the CATV. The cable causes a buzz/hum in the speakers. I know it's the cable, simply disonnect the coax and there's silence. I tried grounding the cable to the same place as my home's power and that didn't do much. Then I grounded the cable to the back of my power conditioner and that made the buzz at least quiet. The cable company doesn't care and I can kinda see their point. They don't want to deal with every homeowner with some wiring problem, 90% of which probably have nothing to do with the cable. They tried to tell me I needed a new piece of coax or that the volume was all the way up on my cable box, which I don't even use (optical from the box to the receiver). I have seen something called a ground breaker on the net but have read varying reports of quality and that some don't even pass HD channels.

Anybody know what the crossover point is on CF-3's? I was thinking about an active crossover and 2 amps but I want to see what you guys think. Right now I have a Carver pro amp running them, which would be too powerful to just run the woofers so I am looking at 2 new amps (not necessarily "new"). Otherwise, does anybody have any of the little bars that connect the high and low posts for the aforementioned speakers? I have never had mine and I'm unhappy with the jumper wires...

Most SS gear is direct-coupled, and it handles impedance "mismatches" in stride, withing reason of course. Most tube gear on the other hand, uses transformer coupling, and that is less agreeable with impedance "mismatches" (or say a varying reactance at the other end of the speaker wires)... The sound "imparted" by transformer coupling has been debated for decades now, remember the term "notch distortion", ect., from the "good old days"? What about the like the Mc's SS amps which still use an output transformer? Better or not? Third, the issue of distortion(s) comes into play. Some people like the "round" quality produced by overly slow slew rates of some tube gear that effectively "takes the edge off" of waveforms. The "liquid" midrange effect, et cetera. Whether or not the speakers in question can produce an accurate waveform is notwithstanding... That's what I was talking about. I don't know a hell of alot about it, but my dad told me all about it once. He's an electronics guy and a musician. The difference in sound is not just subjective. I can't imagine screwing around with vinyl. I can't imagine no remote. God bless new technology!!! Ian

Know where to find quiet fans?

I thought tubes didn't have the guts that SS has. Raw power. Can't you just dial in some warmer sound with a EQ/processor? Seems to work with mine. I also thought the warm sound from tubes was mostly "fuzz", kinda like overdriven amps. Distortion?? I'm open to the idea of liking tubes, I just need to hear what everybody is talking about I guess.

I think they're fine. After being a stereo nut for a long time, I have concluded that distrotion kills speakers more than power. People would brag how their amp was so bad *** that it blew their speakers. Yeah, after listening to them too loud for many hours. Like Gil was saying, you can push on a woofer with your hand (apply force evenly) and if you hear a scraping sound then it's got a warped voice coil. That's what I saw with people's car stereo subs. Tweeters, once they blow, just quit playing. (in my experiences) I don't know alot about horns, I am on my first set right now. I have seen a huge amplifier cause a woofer cone to actually physically seperate it's self from the surround, but that was not what you have. It was a big new amp and a crappy 8" speaker. We did it (in high school) just to see if we could. I've also seen melted crossovers. That shouldn't be a problem for you either though, since you turned it down quickly. Good luck. Ian

I saw a post awhile back with a link for quiet amp fans. Now that I have an outboard amp I see what everybody is talking about. It's completely obnoxious during quiet passages. It has quiet/regular mode but quiet doesn't even cut it. I think the thing may even be going out, sounds a little rough. Anyhow, just wondering where to look. Thanks!!

Never heard Lumberjack with Klipsch and big amp. Now I wanna. Nice work on your neighbor. I think mine are scared of me.

That looks amazing. My first time hearing of that method. Right on man!!

Oh yeah, as far *** bass goes I don't remember the exact numbers but something like 60-70% of music power goes to the 300hz and down range. It pays to have beefy subs so you can let the highs do their thing and the subs can wreak their own havoc.

travisc wrote the following post at 01-09-2006 5:36 PM: "oh and the 40hz crossover is too low, it has been recomended to go one octave above your speakers abilities. Set at 80. remember that a crossover is gradualy sloping and your speakers will be going below 80hz. buy two used crown amps for your front end use your yamaha to run the rears, extra money use towards a second sub. Thats the direction I would go" I agree. A great powerful amp will do more to liven up the speakers than anything else IMO.

I wish I felt like protesting would bring about change.

Nice choice!

Full metal jacket.. or any brutal military flick. Anybody heard of Runaway Train? It's old an most people I know don't know it. John Voight is the star. It's totally gritty. Or Time Rider with Fred Ward. Tremors. Wait, I think all my movies are brutal...lol

I voted concert, but I may be even a little louder sometimes[]. I like it stunningly loud when I'm "actively listening". I am thrilled by thundering bass. I love it when I can feel the snare. I like it to sound like there's a guitar cabinet in my living room. One of my favorite things about my Klipsh, however, is the smooth midrange. I've never had speakers so bright that could crank out tunes without ever getting harsh in the mid frequencies. Seems to me like the more power they get the better they sound. I play the radio all the time just for background noise and maybe the off chance something new and cool comes out. When it's just for noise I don't play it all that loud.

Wassup Billy. Here's a pic of me causing probable hearing damage with a little Corrosion of Conformity. It's a little blurry. I'm in love with that amp. There's enough volume to make you wonder why the hell you would want it that loud, but it's still crystal clear. What fun! The Yamaha is the pre-amp now. That'll free up some outputs. Now I want to wire the porch and kitchen with the A/B. Had to crank the gains up on the Carver, appearantly there's some impedence matching issues. Luckily, I've found that it is very close in volume level to before. The limit for music used to be about -8 or -5 db. Now it's -5 to -2. May just turn dowm the center a bit. Don't have $50 to get an SPL meter right now.

Ever get real lucky? My dad and my stepmon are musicians. Have been for years. They don't go out and do big gigs anymore. I was telling my dad how I wanted to look at some pro amps for my stereo. He says "You can have this old Carver amp." I'm like, cool man. He gives it to me, I look it up, and its freaking 450w per at 8 ohms! PM 1.5 ftp://208.187.38.55/Carver/Manuals/pm/pm1.5manual.pdf That's exactly the kind of amp I wanted. Grossly overpowered, perfect. I'm totally freakin stoked right now. But the questions quickly formed so I need you guys' help please. I posted a while back "power hungry not rich" and I got some ideas about a pro amp in my system but I forgot most of it due to the fact the amps I wanted were all way out of my budget right now. But, free ninety-nine was well within my budget. Dads are cool. Anyhow, I would appreciate any and all advice on hooking it up to my Yamaha receiver. I've seen XLR to RCA, and 1/4" to RCA. Which is a better match? How can I calibrate this thing with the rest of the surround sound? Anything else I should know? I want to set this beauty up right the first time. Thanks

I read the article. That's where I formed my questions. Next question. My CRT-RPTV will do 1080i. Is scaling worth it? I just got into the video thing recently. I have just in the past few months been assimilating all the HD stuff and different kinds of displays like a big sponge. I either never heard of or never payed any attention to scaling until today. [] I'll listen to anybody who'll talk about it. Okay not anybody......lol

That p-d me off too when I saw the HD-DVD would not have component out. My tv is new, but it was cheap so no digital inputs. I probably will avoid new players/movies until they get this straight. Question, how can you get 1080p from standard dvd's? I thought dvd's were 480p. I thought there wasn't even enough room on a dvd 9 for an HD movie. Where do the other 600 lines come from? Can't get something from nothing. Is it software magic? That player sounds too good to be true. (If it's true then I want one...[]) It's be a good thing to have until HD-DVD gets a clue. I'm not replacing my tv. I just got it and it looks fine.

Na man, no HD-DVD player yet. No hd-dvd's. I'm salivating at the idea of one. I won't get one, I'm sure, until closer to the end of the year so I know there's some content out there. Also want to see what happens between blu-ray and hd-dvd. What if one format dominates early? Don't want to be stuck with the losing one. When I get my hands on hd-dvd i'm sure many of the members will already have one but I'll darn sure post when I do!!

Thanks! I have 2344 on mine. So 94 they have to be version 1's. They don't really slam, I think that's true. They do ,however, have some of the smoothest midrange I've ever heard. When I first got them and was cranking up all kinds of music, I would get ready to cringe at places in music where I knew the midrange would be harsh, then it wasn't. Best way I can describe it. I have to drive 'em really hard to get the midrange harsh but by that time I think it's more the amp than the speakers. So they don't "slam". That's why I've got a subwoofer. I can't see wanting any different speakers for a long time. All I want now (when the money gets better....) is a full epic system. [] Hey billy, your old speaker is really happy in it's new home!! It's with old friends.

I always see the compression from HD during fast motion sports. I've watched amny sets at many stores and the reason you see the pixels is because they have to compress the signal to broadcast it. It's like watching compressed videos on your computer. It'll improve when there's more bandwidth. I have an HD tv but I don't get any programming. I'm waiting for HD-DVD. That should be cool. No compression..

Hey, what's up with the different versions of Epics? I have CF-3's. I have read on here once before about the port length and different versions. Seemed like everybody said the version 1's were better. I measured my ports just for s**ts and giggles and they're 5". I'd like to hear more of whatever anybody knows about the different versions and epics in general. Thanks!