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  1. Yes, your comments on heart and mind do make sense. But "heart" is not necessarily an impulsive or primary feeling.

    Sometimes, listening to your heart over your mind can be a good thing. Not always, but sometimes.

    Men tend to be "logical" which is also a good thing. However, being "logical" all the time can become very boring. Do this make any sense?

    "Women tend to be "impulsive" or "primary". " I assume you mean "knee jerk reaction". Women are not necessarily impulsive, just because we make some decisions based on "heart". IMO, women actually take heart and mind into most decisions.

    Thus a woman is always changing her mind?

    Again "(well for the first 7 years anyhow...). So you let your guard down and found your "soul mate" for the first seven years?

    "Is it better to have loved than to never have known love?" I know that sounds real corny. How would you know what you are missing if you never had it? Maybe, just maybe what you had with your ex was " a very small piece of the pie."

    Did you really have what you thought you had? My biggest emotional pitfalls have come when I thought I knew what to expect from someone. Sometimes it is better to accept what you have, be thankful for it everyday and if you do lose it, try to get "it" back. And I don't mean "it" in the literal sense.

    I hope this makes sense to you guys, because it is real important that you rise up from the ashes and grab a hold of the life you deserve.

  2. Yes Christy, but some of us have been 'least expecting it' for quite some time now! [:^)]

    Michael

    Michael,

    There is some one out there for each of us. Sometimes, we look too hard for it, sometimes we just look the other way when it does come along.

    I believe with everything I have that "everything goes full circle". If you love, you will be loved in return. If you hate, hate will come to you in return. If you are an honest person, you will be treated honestly. And on and on.

    There are exceptions to every rule, however I do not believe love is one of those exceptions. In order to be loved, you have to love yourself. That is the main reason, I told you guys to quit beating up on yourselves. Damn, these girls you all are talking about could not possibly have a clue about love. I have read every post on this thread and I have read other posts that you guys have written.

    A person's writing tells alot about who they are. I consider myself to be a good judge of character. In most cases, when I form an opinion of someone, it proves out in the long run. After reading most of the posts you guys have written for over two years it is obvious the women you have been associating with don't have a clue about a good guy. And to tell you truth, I don't think they could even buy a clue.

    In fact, IMO these women don't deserve a clue. You guys are too good for this kind of BS treatment.

    Networking is part of the answer, however you guys have got to stop being so hard on yourselves. I can see the looks on your faces without even seeing you.

    Get yourselves in gear, start working on making yourself happy again, and love will come, "when you least expect it."

  3. Okay, okay...so I'll admit it...I was never a huge fan of the Beatles. Not that I don't like their music, I just wasn't a huge fan.

    Or is it that you guys are just so good at "Name That Tune" and "What movie is the line from" Amy, you always seem to get the movie lines. I knew you were big on movies, but geez, I didn't realize how big of a movie fan you really were.

    Formica, I for one find it refreshing that a gentleman such as yourself is willing to share your heartaches and thoughts with us.

    IMO, most of us consider it a priviledge to be trusted by another member willing to share their feelings. From reading your posts is it easy to see how much of a gentlemen you are.

    Most women will tell you one of the greatest difficulties in a relationship is lack of communication from the man they are with.

    Generally, women readily discuss their feelings(their heart), on the other hand men try to ignore their feelings(their heart) and listen to their head. I can tell you most women genuinely appreciate being with a man that is willing to talk about his feelings.

    I, along with a few others on this forum truly believe you will find your soul mate. Your soul mate will come along when you least expect it.

  4. I have refinished furniture several times, as well as staining new furniture that dtel has built. Ocassionally I have had to mix two or more stains to match the original color, or to achieve a match to existing furniture.

    Sometimes you can blend two or more stains to achieve the coloration you are looking for. However, I have always "tested" the mixed stains on scrap pieces of wood from the building project.

    During the Pilgramage to Hope we were told the walnut currently in stock is from a new supplier. I would assume the various veneers are not always purchased from the same manufacturer. IMO, this practice is to assure some of the nicest veneers are used on the Heritage line.

    Maybe the same manufacturer supplied the wood for all of your speakers. Check the dates and see if they are close.

    It is possible someone at Klipsch could answer this question.

    Or if you are really not happy with the finish, read some of the past posts on this Forum regarding refinishing. There are many threads that discuss the various processes. Most of the refinishing threads would likely be in the past pages. You can also search the forum for the topics.

    I hope this helps.

  5. Oh, Boy. I remember when it was:

    Klipsch

    Hope, Ark.

    PRospect 7-3395

    DRBILL

    Dr. Bill,

    Are you telling your age? [;)]

    My husband still remembers his telephone number from age 5 or 6, Whitehall (WH)7211.

    I love stories like these.

    My daughters who are 27, 26 and 25 don't remember a time when remote controls didn't exist. They asked, "How did you change the station? What a riot...

    Christy

  6. I'm totally screwed. I'm 47 and never married. The younger ones wouldn't want me. Women my age are all divorced twice and bitter, or just plain evil. You guys and your experiences don't give marriage a very good name.

    So I'm better just living out the rest of my short miserable existence solo, is that all there is?

    I guess I should count my lucky stars that I never had to hand over HALF or lose my kids that I never had.....

    M

    Hey colter,

    You, or any other guy on this forum is absolutely totally NOT screwed. My mother divorced at 32, remarried at 45. She was neither bitter nor evil, and came complete with two wonderful children [:)], who absolutely adore their stepfather. My grandmother was married to the same man until he passed away for 50 + years....she remarried at 75 to another generous and loving man.

    My point is, there's never a time to throw in the towel. True friendship/partnership/love, whatever you want to call it, is out there.

    I have horror stories of my own, but if happiness, either solo or duo, can find me, it can find any of you too. Hang in there. [:)]

    Yea, what she said.

    Love is all around. It's kinda like that country song, maybe you guys are "Looking for love in all the wrong places."

    It's out there, go for it.

  7. "We're in Your Corner?"

    Great! Count me in for the tee shirt deal. How about "tie dye?" (it's a retro thang!)

    Rob

    All of the factory employees were given Klipsch blue and white tie dye t-shirts to wear the day we toured the plant. The shirts were "in honor of the 60th anniversary and our Pilgramage to Hope".

    However, if we did multi color tie dye that would be okay.

    Christy

  8. One of the classic internet flame styles is the spelling or grammar flame, almost always employed when the flamer can't come up with any intelligent reply to the subject at hand. Truly the hallmark of an incompetent debater. (or Bush administration spokesperson.)

    ________________________________________________________________

    This post has been spelling and grammar-checked by R-U-Serious.com's patented flame-out software.

    I guess the world is passing me bye, what the hell is a Flamer? I see it many times, maybe even been accused of being one, What is it? I don't understand alot of what is written here, the terms some of you use. I have noticed how it breaks down to name calling when all else fails.......

    I think you have the picture oldbuckster. You answered your own question.

  9. ah, no I thought we might just mail it to the dtels which are in a hotel I believe?

    Speakerfritz, Bayonne here!

    We are home now. Arrived home on Monday night after visiting the plant.

    We spent the night in Little Rock Sunday night, then drove back to Hope, went through Ruston, LA to visit youngest daughter, her husband and our granddaughter, got home around 11:00 p.m.

    I wish we could coordinate the trip so we could p/u speakers and deliver ice cream on the same day.

    Ms. Donna said the speakers would be ready by July/August. We could meet someone in Little Rock, then drive back to Hope and arrive at the plant just before closing time with the ice cream. When Dee reads this I am sure he will help with the relay, maybe he can be the pick up point in Little Rock???

    We don't want to steal the glory (delivery) from anyone, so if someone else is willing to do the delivery that is okay by us.

    I hope the other members (that didn't attend Hope or other Pilgramages) browse this Pilgramage section and see what we are trying to do.

    And Jay...I thought you were from the New Orleans area.

  10. I'm not sure I get the question...

    If you call & do mailorder, they DO pack it in dry-ice. Even if you don't have it shipped, they STILL pack it in dry-ice. They will guarantee it for up to 48 hours.

    The issue about having it shipped is it doubles the price. I also think Mrs. Dtel was intrigued a bit about the story that it would tell the folks in Hope if their fans did something like a handoff, rather than "just throw more money" at it & have them delivered.

    If it's a matter of it being done or not done, then I'd support EITHER option.

    Yes, Mrs. Dtel loves the idea of the relay, I think it would be much more meaningful to everyone, the forum members and the folks in Hope.

    IMO our time should be more valuable than our money, always.

    Dtel and I would also contribute $100.00 and we challenge the other members to meet or exceed this contribution.

    If we can collect enough money I also like Kaiser's idea. T-shirts delivered in the morning and ice cream at the close of the day. (See Kaiser's post under Scoop...)

    I hope the members that did not attend Hope would also accept this challenge.

    Yes, we would support either also.

  11. It is what it is -- an act of betrayal. Viewing it as anything but that is self deception. I'm pretty much with m00n here on this one. Sever all ties.

    The trip is over. You did your duty as a gentleman and all around nice guy.

    What you need to do know is get into a shipping lane where everyone has their compasses intact, using the same map, and heading in the same direction. Give your life to God, and ask him to bring you a life partner -- a soul mate. Don't waste another minute of your life wandering around out in the ocean, waiting on "fate" to bring port into site.

    IMO, this is the best advice yet.

  12. Marvel is right and so are you. It mainly depends on the type of woman you end up with. Some women can not accept that a man will treat her right. I mean let's face it, men do not have the best reputation when it comes to understanding women. In the alternative, even the most "in tune" man wouldn't be able to understand the way some women think.

    All is not doom and gloom. You guys need to start thinking about yourselves just a little. Yes, put the woman on a pedestal, but remember you need to stand right beside her, wherever she may be standing.

    Of course, this is all just my opinion. After 28 years of marriage I figured some of my thoughts may be relevant.

    Christy,

    I wouldn't claim to have ever figured out how Barbara's thinking went. [:D] There were times we were so in tune though.

    That's the beauty of true love. Sometimes you are one and sometimes you are two.

    I never put her on a pedestal, as we were always trying to face things together. Sometimes I didn't stand beside her as much as I wanted or should have.

    Just to clarify what I meant...treat the one you love as though he/she was the most special thing in the world to you, however remember you are just as special. I am sure Barbara understood your not standing beside her at all times. If Elden always stood behind me and never questioned my thoughts, feelings or motives I would never grow. My emotional, spiritual and intellectual growth in the last 28 years could not have happened if Elden would have backed me up everytime he wanted to. I hope this makes sense in some way.

    And yes, there are times that I wish he would do a better job of standing beside me and backing me up, but have never once regretted that he didn't. Even recently there have been several issues that I just "blew my cool" over and wondered where I stood in his life. However, after several hours/days/weeks of discussion I realized that "my way" wasn't the "best way" to handle everything. On the other hand, if I feel my position is right I would fight to the bitter end.

    As we are all different, it IS just your opinion, just like it has been MY opinion. Sometimes a glimpse of light shines through.

    ROb,

    Got the email. Figured I'd let it rest a few days. Been swamped at work and not had much time to think. Next Wed. is the six month mark since Barbara passed away, and I've been thinking about how quickly the time has passed.

    Bruce

  13. I like the t-shirt idea because it something the folks would have to remember us by. Everytime they wore it they would remember that we gave it to them.

    However, I also like Coytee's "relay" idea. That would be a super cool story for those folks and ice cream at the end of a hard work day would be a real treat.

    Why don't one of you start a new thread and see if we can't gather some ideas these creative guys/gals on the forum.

  14. New shouldn't even be part of the equation. The relationship and committment is what you make it.

    Unfortunately... I'm not the one who should be hearing that. From what I can understand is the comfort and support two people can bring each other isn't as important as the excitement. Remember that isn't my opinion... but my interpretation of what they are feeling. Perhaps somewhere down the road, they will change their view as well... but it'll make no difference to me by then.

    The comfort and support is important, or should be to most men and women, however excitement does play a role. I don't think comfort and support should be dominated by excitement.

    Wow... Good for you! Did you have any company with you? Also, there is absolutly no reason to feel sorry.

    Believe it or not... I went with her, as friends, at her request. Condition was we didn't talk about it at all, and no attempts at winning anyone back. It's much harder than it sounds, and as one friend told me... it takes balls. I pulled it off, even if it didn't change anything except earn myself some respect.

    Cuba, BTW, is great destination especially if you want to easily and safely mix with the locals in a "third world" country.

    Earning self respect is a key issue for you right now. You did the right thing, as painful as it may have been.

    It's maddening, I know, I've been there. I don't want to be a thread hijacker so I won't go into the details, but I've been there.

    It's honestly eating me alive. I can't get my mind off him, if she's announced the news, if they are hanging, and if she'll ever tell anyone the actual thing that made her decide to leave? I know I should think about myself, but my mind just keeps coming back to that.

    You have to put yourself first right now. Do what is best for you. The more you think about things like the above, the harder it is to climb out of the hole. When questions like that come to mind, make it a point to concentrate on something else. The empty feelings you have about her will subside as you begin to spend more time and energy on yourself.

    Everyone says go out and find another one.I dont think they understand that it is not that easy.My feelings ran deep and I dont think I could just fall in love with someone else at this time.

    "At this time"... are the correct words... because I did find another one after my wife left. I just didn't expect the EXACTsame thing to happen again...

    Just because the EXACT same thing happened doesn't mean something is wrong with you. When you are out looking, be sure to take your time and find someone who had a somewhat normal life, i.e. a lot of women are not happy unless they are surrounded by chaos. It has to do with the way they were raised.

    Man, between lovedrummin' and formica, I feel like you guys have crawled inside my head, and then wrote what I've been feeling/living for the last month. Work suffering? Yep. Excited about audio? Nope. Eager to take the boat out? What's the use. Go for a motorcycle ride. Nahhhhh......too hot. Watch a movie in the HT. Nahhhh....just have to rent a movie then take it back. And on & on it goes.

    Tom, do me the favour and take your bike out. I know you like riding... get back on even if you don't feel like it. You have to prove to yourself that you don't NEED anyone...

    Sounds weird coming from me? Well... experience and watching my mom pull through my dad's death a couple of months ago, has shown me that we have a lot of things to prove to ourselves and no one to push us.

    I went out today and bought myself tickets to go see Front Line Assembly next weekend... I really enjoy music concerts and it was an activity my girlfriend and I frequently did. I'm convinced I don't need anyone to keep enjoying it.

    Now you are getting the idea, some of these guys should be listening. Tom, lovedrummin' are you guys listening.

    They'll also tell you that the more you try to be nice the more likely you'll be used as a door mat. Remember......he who cares least, wins.

    I'm fu¢ked.

    ...strongly disagree agree about the "he who cares least" bit. My wife and I were married for five years, and had a bit of that going on. I was into my music, she was a rather radical feminist. Doomed from the start. We divorced, partly due to a guy who told her he could show her how to get to God (maybe god with a small 'g') He beat her up constantly, broke a rib, broke an eardrum.

    No offence... but doesn't that show the opposite? I think we know you pretty well on here and I wasn't even sure if I should bring this up... but I don't think you'll take this the wrong way.

    I mean your wife had to live through a pretty dramatic experience to realise that nice guys are actually nice to be with? You did get her back and she realised how much you were offering her in the first place (I'm figuring you were a nice guy from the start, right?) As much as I love her, or perhaps because I love her... I honestly can't wish that kind of experience onto my gf in order to get her back. If she ever does realise it on her own.. it'll probably be too late.

    I think I do have an advantage that I don't actually look like mr nice guy... but once I'm in, I can help putting my women on pedestals.

    I'm fu¢ked.

    ROb

    Marvel is right and so are you. It mainly depends on the type of woman you end up with. Some women can not accept that a man will treat her right. I mean let's face it, men do not have the best reputation when it comes to understanding women. In the alternative, even the most "in tune" man wouldn't be able to understand the way some women think.

    All is not doom and gloom. You guys need to start thinking about yourselves just a little. Yes, put the woman on a pedestal, but remember you need to stand right beside her, wherever she may be standing.

    Of course, this is all just my opinion. After 28 years of marriage I figured some of my thoughts may be relevant.

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