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Yes, the system will be running again - everyone wants that. The re-engagement must be based on science for it to be a valid “structured reopening” and not some politician’s empty rhetoric meant to still up a reactionary base. In the full context of that quote he said workers, small business, and the markets were being “crushed” and was implying that we’ll being going over the cliff if we continue to take the precautionary measures that are proving to be effective at slowing the spread of a deadly virus. Is another few weeks of caution too much sacrifice to protect lives including the lives of our children. Schools would also be re-opened and are Petri dishes for virus spread with each child wallowing in the mix and then going home for further spread - they are ideal vectors.
I think we’re all assessing what sacrifice we are willing to make for the greater good. One side says “get the economy rolling to protect our livelihoods and wealth even at the cost of a few lives” the other says “sacrifice a few hits to our wealth and livelihoods for a bit longer (certainly not forever) to protect lives.” I fall in the second group because, even as a capitalist, I think that we’ll build a stronger economy in the long run rather than accelerating along with the same thinking that put the economy on thin ice to begin with. The economy was fragile, if it wasn’t the virus that triggered a collapse, it would’ve been something else. A correction is needed whether we like how it feels or not but I don’t want to keep repeating it.
So what do you propose as a solution for those who can’t feed their families or will be facing eviction or no utilities? No transportation to and from work because their vehicles will be repossessed? Are you willing to offer to pay their bills?
Are you saying the responsibility to reopen with caution lies with the state and local government or that the federal government should just take complete control.
There are no easy answers.
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Yes and one of the main reasons why fake news is labeled fake news and the label sticks because it is true. A deliberate misrepresentation of what was said or done.
The problem is exacerbated further when others “share” and spread the fake news on social media when they full well know that’s not the intent of the speaker.
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Poverty Kills. We stay locked longer, there's going to be a lot of poverty.
It’s already affecting a lot of people. Some folks are just not able to prepare for emergency situations, whether it’s hurricanes, earthquakes a pandemic or whatever.
A lot of people can only buy groceries for a few days at a time. Single moms, waitresses, unsupported college students and many more. Food banks are being over run. Utilities will eventually be disconnected, landlords will eventually evict.
Of course there’s that segment of society that will spend every penny they are given on frivolous things. It doesn’t really matter.
What matters is there will be NOTHING left to humanity if we don’t get to work on our economy. We can’t sit here twiddling our thumbs and BSing this virus and its cures and treatments to death. Mankind can not survive that long without serious repercussions.
As for the ugliness....please just be kind and respectful
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Me thinks the back and forth and questioning of ones draft status and how he/she served is way off base and hardly relevant. Jim served, makes no difference if he volunteered or was drafted. And really no one’s business how or why he served. I was of Vietnam service age and had the infamous “lottery” numbers. I was 10 numbers from being called to report when the war ended. Did I volunteer, no; would I have reported, yes. The draft thing really has no business in the virus arguments - regardless which way one leans
I agree. I’m trying to keep this thread open and on topic.
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I'm not trying to change your mind on anything rather trying to keep you active on the forum by asking questions that I hoped would let you see why some might take offense with your posts. You don't need to agree with me or my thoughts on matters but of course you know that.
Yes! This 100 per cent.
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In my opinion if we do not get this economy up and running again life as we know it will no longer exist. How exactly are we going to provide a relatively stable existence for our country or this planet for that matter.
For all of you that disagree with a structured reopening of the economy please share your thoughts.
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I think most, if not all, of us would sacrifice ourselves to protect our children but do you recognize that the lives of your children and grandchildren are also placed on the table for that wager?
Once again. Out of context. If I choose to go to work (we are retired and don’t NEED to work) and we sacrifice physical contact with our children and grandchildren to contribute to rebuilding this economy how are we placing their lives on the table? I don’t get it. Maybe I’m missing something here.
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So, are you willing to sacrifice the lives of any of your children or grandchildren to protect an average worker’s job, a small business, or markets? I think there are better ways. How much is a life worth? The risk-reward equation is not comparable to driving a car.
Not quite sure how you arrived at that conclusion. We would give up our lives to insure our children and grandchildren have a future. Hope that’s clear enough for you.
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Jumping on the bandwagon to bash a forum member because they don't agree with your political leanings? Not exactly how a moderator should be acting, don't you think?
No bashing here. It seems that Carl always tries to help you out to no avail. Really has nothing to do with my political leanings and everything to do with statements and quotes being made out of context.
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I don't know why I try to help him.
I’m wondering that myself.
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That soundbite is not the smartest thing that he's said, but adding the rest of what he said changes it.
“Every life is valuable, but 500 people out of 29 million and we’re locked down, and we’re crushing the average worker. We’re crushing small business. We’re crushing the markets. We’re crushing this country,” Patrick told interviewer Tucker Carlson Monday night.
“There are more important things than living. And that’s saving this country for my children, and my grandchildren and saving this country for all of us,”
There’s a lot of meaning to what he said when you consider the entire sound bite. I want to know that my children and grandchildren will have something remaining when this is all over.
I don’t really care who he said it to. What does that really matter?
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Busy cleaning up the mess in here, put the main offender on moderated posts.
Do your own research and you tell me the answer. All science is evolving, that a function of the scientific method. Even the most understood of scientific principles are still called a "theory" because no matter how well it is understood, we know there is always more that can be learned about gravity, relativity, virology,.epidemiology.
They’ve been warned. Several times.
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But you seriously don't trust any other government do you?
Nope.
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Belgium now has more deaths than China ,,,,,,,,for a population of less than 12 million /5828 deaths--China 4632 deaths ----- 1,4 billion plus population , they are really strong-----and we are weak
This is why China was nailing doors shut to keep people in their homes. Geez....they lie, steal and cheat. The truth isn’t in them.
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Belgium now has more deaths than China ,,,,,,,,for a population of less than 12 million /5828 deaths--China 4632 deaths ----- 1,4 billion plus population , they are really strong-----and we are weak
BS. China will never be truthful.
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I understand your position..
And appreciate your post ..early today.. I watch the full vid...
And yes we are all up to are knees ..
With crap...
I’m glad you watched it. I’m sharing it on social media as much as I can. Hopefully others will watch it also.
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Ah yes - the Degelman M34. A majestic piece of machinery — although it does see competition with some right here —
I don’t know if that’s funny or sad. I’m going with sad because I know some of the folks in here are a lot smarter than they appear to be on certain issues. I’ve never seen such intelligent people turn a blind eye to reality.
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And that's your excuse? That's sad.
This virus is something that modern man has never dealt with. Maybe you should run for political office. I’m sure you have the correct answers on how to deal with this.
What’s sad is that everyone is so busy trying to blame some one else for the situation. It’s repulsive.
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A couple points of interest. Flu season deaths are generally accounted for during October thru March. That being said CV19 deaths have been counted for two months. CV19 is much more contagious than flu. Do you think mitigation has not curbed the number of deaths?
Your right to run free does not supersede my right to be safe when I need to be in public.
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But yet you haven't deleted the posts or warned or banned the posters....I guess that says something.
We would hope they are intelligent enough to consider the post as a warning. Today isn’t the day to push buttons. We are sure everyone knows what that means.
Moderators are not in the “cleaning” business. We are over warning people. That only leaves one or two options. We are sure folks are smart enough to figure out what those are. Locking the thread or banning the offenders. It’s the same folks...over and over and over!
Now, y’all can knock it off.
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Are you serious? Have you read the last couple of recent pages? For real?
Of course I have. Why do you think I posted that?
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Watch your step with turning this thread political. Just a reminder that the moderators and Chad are watching it.
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it makes a lot of sense , they are renting an APT that is livable 12 months ---so best solution is to sub lease
If sub leasing is allowed in the contract. A lot of rental contracts prohibit sub leasing.
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If an article or speech is posted in its entirety how is it fake news. The reader can make their own determination. Or, are you saying people aren’t smart enough to decide what’s fake and what’s not when given adequate information.
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