Great replies, all things I'll look into. Thank you for the input. My friend bought these on my behalf and I cannot fault the purchase for the money, he is looking out for me. Who knows I might get an 8b out of it like Thebes. I am just trying to pick up the pieces. In my experience if the power meters are showing signal the channels are there. Remember I am only a few hours into this venture and I am not committed. I have a working system. What is he best contact cleaner? I went to rat shack and all they had was this lubricant/cleaner/non flammable. I have some stuff from the way back from Dad that destroys the ecosystem @ work. I"ll try that tomorrow.Does anybody know if any of these solvents damage the face plate in any way? If you think it is better to buy a system working and complete for 1000 (what you would pay for the combo,possibly) or better to gamble let"s hear it.