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just for whoever may have been curious: dug out the manual for my SD-1600, turns out the display is a sum of th audio, video, and subtitle on the DVD. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

Not necessarily hogwash. This is the salesperson opinion, and a lot of people would agree with him IMO. Not me, however, and apparently not you either, as you seem to like the Klipsch sound. If you like it, go for it! And don't be bothered by the harshness or whatever they think the weakness is, if you have an all-Klipsch system already and you like it, then you'll love the RF-7. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I'd go for the RC-7 as well. Also, why do you feel the need for an additional CD player, I think the DVD-2800 would do a fine job for CDs as well as DVDs. It even has HDCD decoding! Apart from that, great system. I'll be jealous. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

who was the author? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

have you considered SVS? www.svsubwoofers.com ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

what about separates? you could get a good package with the Aragon stuff, if the Klipsch distributor in your area is willing to give you a discount for volume buying... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

you may be right boa. I'll look in my player's manual, if I can find it. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

with your budget, why not go with the 5803? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I have a Toshiba, SD1600 I think. It only shows one bitrate, for both audio and video I guess. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

yeah IMO it's either the RF-3s or the RF-7s. the RF-5s are good speakers, but they just don't offere the same bang for the buck the 3s do, and they aren't the ultimate like the RF-7s... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

remember Dolby and DTS are two compressed audio format, so the efficiency of the compression algorithms used will influence the results greatly. I don't know which format is more efficient, but I do think DTS sounds better, whether it's due to the higher bitrate (and thus potential for more info to be in the signal) or to a more efficient compression scheme. A question I've always had: is there a way to tell, or is there a list somewhere of the movies that were released with the older, more memory-gobbling high DTS bitrate, because apparently they are all released now with the lower bitrate version. Would be interesting to do an apples to oranges comparison to determine how much more/less bitrate influences the signal when using the same compression scheme... I'm guessing the higher bitrate of those films would show up on the DVD player's bitrate display, however that may not be true, as the video might have taken the place of the audio (unfortunately) and since most DVD players only have one disply for both audio and video... Also, I don't feel like going through my (still relatively small) whole DVD collection to find out... Anyone? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

There is one in the last special issue of "Son et Image" as well, for those who care. I'll try to translate the best parts if I get a chance. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I concur with avman ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I have tried both real dipole surrounds from a couple companies, most notably Energy. I have tried Klipsch's WDST approach (which imo is better but not as good as direct-radiating) with the Synergy line. I have tried direct-radiating approaches in my own environment, of course, but also with a Klipsch system with SB-1 in back and SF-2 in front. The best results are in a 6.1 config with all direct-radiating, again IMO. And I know he was discrediting Mr. Greenberg's opinion because of his non-use of a THX certified system, my point is precisely that you do not NEED to have a THX-approved system in order to have flat freq response and good tonal qualities, among other things. I regard THX as an aid to newbies who want to make sure their equipment is of a minimum quality standard, but not as the be-all end-all of home or theater audio. The fact that Mr. Greenberg wasn't using a THX-certified system in no way justifies putting his opinion and results aside. That is just snobbish, I-know-the-truth-and-you-don't, I'm-Mr.THX-man rethoric. I am sure Mr. Greenberg didn't use a Bose system in his research, as I am sure he is knowlegeable enough to distinguish between a bright and a detailed speaker. So there. Plus, THX is basically prostituting itself with their THX Select standard you find on some JVC and other mass-produced electronics. Ridiculous, THX is starting to lose all meaning now. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 04-09-2002 at 06:29 PM

you can't compare the RF-7 to the Ti-K!!! it's not AT ALL the same price range... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

disclaimer: I only posted this link for informational purposes, as I had never seen it posted before, and I thought it was of interest, as the issue itself had been brought to attention several times. Discussion is always good, isn't it? I myself do not agree with Mr. Tom Holman, as I have tried both approaches and like the direct-radiating one better, because it was able to reproduce enveloping sound fields almost as well as dipoles, and direct sounds (like gunshots) MUCH better. With a 6.1 approach, the point is moot, because as Tom Holman sas it himself 3 direct speakers in the back asre able to reproduce a diffuse sound field much better than two direct, and a little better than two dipole speakers. Besides, he seems to unjustly discredit Corey Greenberg's opinion because 1) he didn't use THX-certified speakers (he seems to assume that all other speakers are unable to reproduce a flat freq response) and 2) he mistook bright direct-radiating speakers for detailed speakers (essentially he doesn't know how to listen and thus is opinion is worthless). This kind of argumentation alone made me really suspicious, but the fact that a lot of his case is built on early experimentation with little or no discrete 5.1 material, and the rest of his case built on 5.1 (which is IMO not nearly as good as 6.1, which will mostl likely end up a long-lasting standard), which is now kind of outdated, just drove me away. That, plus the fact that at the beginning he simply makes the assumption that everybody agrees dipoles are better for movies, which is far from the truth. In summary, he may have contributed a lot, but he should update himself and his experiments to keep with the times and with the new discrete 6.1 surround formats that offer the best of both worlds when used with direct-radiating speakers (i.e. provide ambience and directional effects). BTW, don't worry about me, I didn't wait for University to start thinking critically, and I won't stop at graduation (if that ever comes!) either. P.S.: I digged out and old "Son et Image" magazine with a VERY interesting interview of Dr. Floyd Toole, and I will try eventually to translate it in Shakespeare's language so that you may all enjoy his insights. Damn final exams, never have enough time in a day! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 04-09-2002 at 01:37 PM

HornEd's not going to like this... But here is the link anyways: http://www.paradigm.com/Support/TechFAQ/DipolarConfusion.pdf At least he refers to his use of LaScalas... Enjoy! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 04-08-2002 at 11:31 PM

Reference all the way. Can't compare. I think even for bang-for-the buck the Ref 3's blow the Synergy line out of the water. Same for the subs, I don't care much for the KSW subs, but the RSW perform like charms. A bit on the pricey side though. But that's just my two cents. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I've heard a demo with all Aragon and Klipsch ref 7... If you're not satisfied by that, then you will never be. It sounded absolutely awesome, with two RSW-15 flanking the mains. A really theater-like setup. Heard that at the Son et Image Festival here in Montréal, the Klipsch room was the best in show, and let me tell you, Toy Story 2 never sounded that good! Really awesome. I've never really had the occasion to hear other comparable electronics with a Klipsch setup, however, so I can't really compare, just say that this one was absolutely awesome. And if you could get those new (or upcoming, I guess) Aragon components in silver, like they were presented at the show, then that would be even better. Don't know if they're available yet, though, they were presented as early examples hot off the factory when I saw them. Looked damn fine, much better IMO than black. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I've been on that site many times... Very good one. Want another? http://www.eeggs.com/ Enjoy! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

Talon, remember about shipping, taxes and duty fees. The Paradigm can be had for 670 plus tax here in Quebec at a Stereo Plus Store (that's how much I paid for it) and yes, it is the best value in Canadian subwoofing. SVS cannot offer better value at the same price point, as their least expensive amplified subwoofer, the 25-31PCi retails for 549 US plus tax plus customs plus shipping. You could probably get two PW-2200 for that price with the CAN dollar as it is now, and 15% tax and almost 15% duty (last time I had something come from the States to here)... which would most likely destroy the SVS offering. Now I don't know about their higher-end offerings, as I am less familiar with local high-end sub prices. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

but since you're not ordering now, it doesn't really make a difference now does it? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I asked the same question earlier about the center channel more specifically. Here is the link to the thread, although the responses didn't turn out to be as numerous as I would've hoped, and there wasn'T a really definitive answer. http://216.37.9.58/ubb/Forum4/HTML/003452.html Are you downgrading your future purchases? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

IMO, not enough to warrant the extra expense. they are a bit smoother, with better bass response, and THEY ARE OFFERED IN A CHOICE OF FINISHES but they seem to use relatively similar components. the RF-3II is the sweet spot in terms of cost/quality ratio, while the RF-7 is a significant (IMO) step up from the 5's. It must be noted, however, that my comparison was less than extensive, and probably subjective, as I wasn't interested in the RF-5s right off the bat. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

are all three images the same? and if so, what is it? by unstretching it in Paint, it looks like a smiley listing of some kind... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 04-04-2002 at 01:07 PM