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  1. I do not think Rotel is the problem you are hearing, it has to be something else. I have Rotel RB-1080 (200wpc) and RB-1090 (380wpc) and from time to time, I listen to them with my B&W N800 speakers and I have no problems, it works well, and at any volumes..... except for maybe the Rotel RB-1080.... say from 0 to 2 it isn't as open as the RB-1090 at those low volumes but once the RB-1080 is around 2 and up volume, it opens up plenty. Pre-amps are Rotel RC-1070 and RC-1090. I own many Stereo equip. from all walks from affordable to very expensive and Rotel is still among some of my favorites. The B&W N800 have excellent build quality, of course better than Klipsch but much more expensive, but I still listen and enjoy my Klipschorn 2005 and Klipsch RF-7 speakers the most out of my many outragous collection of speakers. Klipsch does offer excellent value in general. The RF-7 has excellent imaging. I would like to get some of that excellent imaging out of my Klipschorn's and I'm thinking I might if maybe I close the backs and position them how I have the RF-7's. I have perfect corners for my Klipschorn's and they sound great, but I love the pin-point imaging of the RF-7's and would love to achive this in my Klipschorn's if it's possible but I haven't had the time to experiment with this yet. Every room in my home has 2 or 3 (2-channel) setups with many more speakers than equipment. I know, I need help but I haven't been able to help myself. I have more Klipsch speakers (different models) than our whole audio stores in our area!
  2. WOW, that's a great many KHorns to own! How did you ever find all the room for them? [] Now you have my curiosity why you didn't keep the new Klipschorn's and sell the older? I know the build quality is said to be better on the '76 models, is that your reason for keeping the '76 or do you find the sound quality is better on the old vs. the new? Trachorn 400 upgrades, sounds nice, keep us posted on how you like it when it's all said and done. []
  3. Is this your 3rd pair of Klipschorn's? Didn't you have a '71 and '02 pair? You could try the "Howard Feed-N-Wax Wood Preserver", many swear by it. For touch-up spots you could try the "Howard Restor-A-Finish (Walnut) that is also supposed to be very good from what many recommend. You can find these at places like HomeDepot and Hardware Stores.
  4. I'm in agreement with Fish -- The RF-7's are a great speaker. I'm certain that if DrWho had a pair with required equipment to sing it's best, DrWho would have a whole different tune about the RF-7's and not be so negative and would be very shocked at their performance level. The better equipment you gave the RF-7's, it just keeps getting better, to incredible levels that is very hard to believe from such an affordable speaker. I've played around with much different equipment with the RF-7's and what you get from them depends VERY much on the equipment. I have heard them go from thin sounding and just ok, to very wide, open, accurate, and down right shocking incredible sound as if the band or singer is there in front of you. They can put out tremendous high quality power and sound if your equipment allows it to do so. You can get away with low power and more affordable equipment on some speakers and they drive good sound but if you really want to hear what a Klipsch RF-7 can do, you have to invest in some very good expensive high quality equipment and the level of performance will truly stun you! Unfortunately many will never experience this because the RF-7's are limited to what equipment most run them with, for those who give the RF-7's what they need to sing their best, they know what I'm talking about!!! Nasty peak! If this is Nasty, give me more! []
  5. Werner -- Don't worry about what people think here in this Klipsch group! They are a hard bunch to please. You know how you feel in your heart about it and your total feedback is more positive overall that agrees with you. I've noticed there are much negativity within the Klipsch forums at times so do not let it affect you. I'm sure members here do not honestly intend to be this way with your results you were happy to share with us. I have enjoyed your story about the RF-7's and sharing your loved interest with us. Thank You!
  6. Sounds like user-error to me. You just corrected something that was wrong within the setup. User fault, not cable fault. Fooling around with the setup you just corrected something that you didn't realize was wrong.
  7. That's because the RF-7's strongest realistic dead center vocal imaging is different than that of the Cornwall. The RF-7 will put the singer dead center without any trailing to the left or right speaker. The RF-7's imaging is one of its best features, very believable of the singers position without overstating it's position.
  8. I have both RF-83 and RF-7 and yes the RF-83's do sound nice, I prefer the RF-7's. A well setup RF-7 system really sounds much better to my ears than my RF-83's !! The RF-7's sound more "Live" with more "vocal presence" that I much prefer to my ears. If you like it more tamed down, you will like the RF-83's. Just my 2¢
  9. I own many speakers and I have the Chorus II & RF-7 in the group of Klipsch speakers I own. The RF-7's have bass and you should be getting bass. I use without subwoofer and get great bass with thump. The RF-7's have better bass all-the-way-around but I've setup many RF-7's and the key to it is to use it with a high output amp and this really brings the bass out. It's also important for speaker placement for bass results, you can follow the general rules for placement. I wouldn't do anything as drastic as getting rid of your RF-7's for the Chorus II. The RF-7's have very pin-point imaging, resolution, and upper detail from the titanium horn. There isn't lack of midrange if you use the RF-7's with a high output amp, this will push the midrange outward with great detail. The Chorus II & RF-7's both very good speakers but just slightly different flavors of sound but more alike than not of the Klipsch signature sound. I find I favor more towards the RF-7's for these ears and tend to use it much more than the Chorus II's. I have compared them side-by-side and to these ears, the RF-7's win for all-around-sound. If I had to pick just one, it would be the RF-7's. I can't image how "DrWho" can say the RF-7's have no midrange, this leaves me to believe DrWho has never heard them setup well with quality components?? Out of all the RF-7's I have setup, not one person has ever told me there is no midrange!!!!. I also disagree with the statement "Crank em up a bit and the Chorus II will demolition the RF7". I don't find that to be true at all, not with setups here. It is all subjective and the final result you prefer will be your ears alone, it would be better to ear them first before you leap into it to make sure you are making the right move. Good Luck!
  10. "Maybe some of us miss out on this particular problem because we sit close to our speakers -- is that possible?" I find the RF-7's sound even better farther away, gives the speakers breathing room. I have mine setup about 14ft. away from listening position, midrange is very good. I like to setup the RF-7's from 12 to 17 feet away from listening position. I think the negatives from members here are ones who never owned them or ever heard them setup correctly to give even a hint of what the RF-7's are capable of, but in either case lets all be respectful to our own likes, hate to see this get into a debate match. Good Day.
  11. Many of the Klipsch Heritage fans that I've talked to always mention how expensive the Heritage line has become and turn to the used market. I'm sure many would buy new if the prices were better. Even if Klipsch had to take it to china production for mass market to save the Heritage line and re-introduce to the public and dealers but I don't see that happen when "smaller" is the most popular these days unless Klipsch was to go out on a limb and try and bring back the "big" speaker market.
  12. It's just amazing what you read here! I totally disagree with VFTT about the RF-7's. I can only imagine that the multiple demos of time given to the RF-7's must have had been setup wrong in some way to come to those conclusions. The RF-7's are excellent with music when setup proper with quality equipment. I know a client that has RF-7 and Chorus and loves both but told me he finds himself enjoying the RF-7's and spending more time listening to them but just can't part with his classic Chorus and enjoys listening to them from time to time. I have NEVER heard the RF-7's with a lousy low end! They both have the Klipsch classic sound, just a little different in it's presentation of sound but more alike than not.
  13. >Are loudness and tone controls necessary? Depends, some can't stand them.... and some can't stand to be without them.
  14. Also forgot to mention that many of the kits are sold from Ebay too. You can search for "surround kit" or "speaker surround".
  15. If you just want to replace the dust cap and surrounds, you could do it yourself. Some of the DIY (do it yourself) kits even come with dust caps. The kits run from around $20 to $30 for each kit.
  16. The cloth surrounds don't come in a DIY kits. You would have to get the yellow pages out and look in the stereo / speaker repair sections and see who in your area can provide that service. www.speakerrepair.com is a authorized Cerwin Vega repair near Cerwin Vega, they have woofers and other parts you can check out. They also have DIY foam surround kits that you can do yourself, and if I remember correctly, they have pictures on their website on how to do it step by step. You could check it out and see if you think you could take on the project or have a speaker repair place do it for you, a speaker repair place can do the surrounds in rubber, cloth, or foam. The pushed in dust cap, have you tried using a piece of tape and gently using the tape to try and push it out?? It can be replaced. The whole woofer doesn't need to be replaced, it can be rebuilt if the spider is bad and last time I checked Cerwin Vega does not have the exact woofer used in the Cerwin Vega D-9 for replacement. They have stopped making a replacement for it. They do have some woofers that specs come close to it but a speaker repair place can help you with that and it's cheaper than buying new speakers if you want to keep those classic speakers.
  17. Looks like the images still aren't working. .......................... got it to work now......... []
  18. Ah, the good ole classic Cerwin Vega D Series Speakers. Many feel these were one of Cerwin Vega's best before they sold the company and even feel they are better than the newest Cerwin Vega out today under the new company owners. I remember the Cerwin Vega D-9 very well back in the 80's when I was trying to decide between the Klipsch Forte and the Cerwin Vega D-9. The Forte's were twice the amount of the D-9. I just did a re-surround on a pair of D-9 and D-7 speakers for someone and I'm impressed with the sound, 101dB, very revealing, and a little different in sound from Klispch but very nice, more towards a warmer and rich sound, the small horn tweeters on these seem to keep up well with Klipsch. The person that own these Cerwin Vega D-9 and D-7 speakers also run them with the Klipsch RSX-5 speakers and the combo sounds very good together. The foam surrounds on these were 21 years old!!!! I'm amazed they lasted that long because that is unusual for foam surrounds! I replaced them with Cerwin Vega Pro cloth surrounds as the owner didn't want to have to replace them again. The owner tells me they sound even better with the cloth surrounds, I thought so to.
  19. Sounded like too good of a price for RF-7's in Cherry, looking at the pictures they look quite beat up, for the picky it would be hard to proudly display them in that condition and his comments: **see the "do not piss of your girlfriend when she knows you love your speakers more than her" section of the Klipsch manual. Makes you wonder if his girlfriend tossed them down some stairs to get in that condition!!
  20. Fish, you maybe somewhat of a minority on the Klipsch forum by what I read here but check out some of the other Home Theater and 2-Channel Audio forums and you'll find the majority RF-7 owners seem to be very happy with the RF-7's the way they are. I'm fine with how the RF-7's horn is and have no problem with it, unless it's on a bright source, than it can drive some ears to be sensitive to them? The trick to any Klipsch speakers is to keep them away from a bright source/gear. Maybe some have more sensitive ears than others that can't handle the RF-7's more in your face presentation on the horns, for those people, the RF-83 probably will work out better for them, or possibly the DeanG way for those RF-7 owners that feel the horn is too much.
  21. The point of crossover for the RF-35 are at 2600Hz and RF-7 at 2200Hz. So after crossover, the tweeter/horn does the rest.
  22. You have to give yourself (ears) time to adjust to the difference you are hearing. I hear the differences going between the RF-35 and RF-7's. The 7's have more pin-point imaging. Give yourself time to adjust to the 7's and listen very closely and you will hear the difference, it gives you more of everything. The 7's are a little more picky about setup position, so make sure you have them setup best for soundstage, imaging, and bass.
  23. No, we have them here at work.
  24. Nope, not here. BestBuy decided they were too close by and closed our local Magnolia Hi-Fi store in favor for their BestBuy Store. Shame! Others exist but not locally here! Count yourself lucky if you still have them in your area.
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