unfortunetly, i have to put in-walls in. new home and damm wife wants inwalls. it is prewired for rears, so that not bad, but will need inwalls in front and center. i guess the r-5800-w klipsch are the best bet?? i see yamaha has a new RX-V661... for around 499.00 seems like a deal. 1080p hdmi w/2 inputs and 1 out, etc.. 95w x 7. guess thats ok. i will have a definitive subwoofer in the corner... the one item that can be visible. so i will get bass, just wanted to see if the r-5800-w were my best option. thanks