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  1. Huub, my suggestion would be to try switching your fronts to those "effects" channels and see exactly how much information is actually coming out. You may want to listen or test for bass also. If your front speakers are not hooked up, they will not drown out the effects. You may find that there is not enough additional sound to justify the RB-3's or maybe even a set of speakers at all. I wouldn't think it would be that important to get an exact tonal match out of you effects speakers, because they should not have any voice or main sounds. If it ends up being minimal sound I would go with the SB-2's. Good luck and happy listening!! JT
  2. Dman, I think the question you need to answer first is which speakers are you going to buy. The AR-9's have a sensitivity rating of only 92 dbs compared to the RF-3's 98 dbs. To arrive at the same volume you will need a lot more power with the AR-9's. A very loud 113 dbs with the AR-9's would require 128 watts and the RF-3's would require 32 watts. There are obviously other varibles, but if you assume all else equal this should give you a rough idea as to whether or not you need to bi-amp the RF-3's as compared to just bi-wiring them. Typically most audiophiles that bi-amp are doing it to use external crossovers not to extend more amplification. Of coarse this is just my opinion from past observations. If space is not a problem I would go with the RF-3's and a KSW-12. I would take a look at a high current receiver rather than a high wattage unit. The Harmon Kardons and Denons both have nice amperage available to the speakers. Current can be as important as wattage. I have three receivers, 2 HK's and 1 Denon. My 13 year-old Harmon Kardon will amaze you with its 45 watt sound when hooked up to the RF-3's. That little old baby has 25 amp's of current available. It sounds just as good as my Denon AVR2500. My main unit is a HK AVR7000 with a monsterous 75 amps of current. I would check out the JVC's current ratings; if your speakers run out of current they won't be able to get the needed power and the amp will start clipping. Again this is just my two cents worth. Happy listening and enjoy!!! JT
  3. One thing I forgot to mention was, if you plan on running the component video through your receiver keep in mind that ONLY component signals that come into the receiver can go out through the component signal to the monitor. In other word if you send a s-video signal to your receiver from your satalite you then need a s-video or composite (not component) cable to be connected to the monitor as well. Again, ONLY incoming component signals can be sent out of the receiver's component outs. I am sorry for over stating this if you already knew this. There maybe some high end pre-amps out there that can upgrade s-video to component, but I have yet to see any. JT
  4. Joe, I also have the 2200. The only reason you would send the component video signal through a receiver would be for switching. For example, you have two sorces with component video and your monitor only has one component video input. What you should do is connect the component video cables directly from the 2200 to your monitor. The picture is rather impressive. I have a 36" Toshiba with component video and it is fantastic. I did find that it was a better decision to buy two pairs of audio connects rather than the "component video cables". I was able to get four Monster 400 mkII interconects for the same price as their Video 2 component cables. It was $39.99 a pair for the mkII 400's and $79.99 for the component. The mkII are better cables, plus the component cables are attached to each other. That was a year ago and it was hard to find component cables at that time. Prices may be different now. While these are not the most expensive cables they seem to work just fine for my tastes. They almost seem expensive if you compare them to the $260 I paid for the 2200. Through in a Monster optical cable at $80.00 and I have $160 in cable for a $260 component. That is scary. Happy listening (and viewing)!! JT
  5. Bob, let us know how those A25's match up. I am curious. You will probably have to turn the rear volumes way up because of effieciency issues. I can't blame you on the velo they also make a pretty good sub. I got lucky enough to get a LF-10 for under $500 from UBid, so I am happy and 100% Klipsch on the main system. Happy listening and enjoy!!! JT
  6. I must say that I hardly ever disagree with "The Man From Klipsch", but I would buy the RF's and RC-3 with a KSW-12 (instead of KSW-10). Phil, you should know better than most that the Klipsch addiction is a disease. If Bob buys the Ref speakers he will eventually do whatever it takes to acquire a set of matching RS-3's. He will then be a Klipsch junkie who will be pawning family heirlooms at "Jake's Pawn and Loan" so that he can get his fix. It is much like any other addiction, all you need is a little taste and some appreciation of the product and you are hooked. I have a friend who had a Sony mini-system for his main entertainment system. One viewing of Matrix ala Klipsch / HK and he spent a couple thousand bucks at the local store. Now six months later he is wondering how he is going to get his speakers back to Ohio for a one year trade up. He just moved to Dallas and this is his biggest concern. I told him to buy Klipsch, but the sales person steered him into a set of Paradigm's. I tried to explain my theory of first time home audio purchasing without buyer's remorse, but he did not listen. The theory is: find a price range that is a little more than you really want to spend and then double it. This should be good for a few years. A little note, this disease can be accelerated if two things are missing from your life: 1) a mortgage and 2) a wife. Bob, go for it. I also do not think the RS-3 are in jepordy of being dicontinued because Klipsch is adding to the Ref line in May. That should buy you some time to come up with the extra money to add the RS-3's later on. Another note, if you do not want wall mounted surrounds go for some RB-5's or another set of RF-3's. Remeber it is only money. Happy listening and enjoy! JT
  7. The attached letter was on another strand. It is from the webmaster at Klipsch. I already have a solution to circumnavigate this policy. Of coarse I will not be posting this solution. As I am sure it was our praise of internet deals that got everybody's underwear in a bunch. I guess we are going to have to keep our traps shut (or in the case of the BB, or fingers tied). Hell I could fly out to NYC stay in Time Square at the Marriott then rent a van and drive home and still save money for the difference in the price of my system compared to the local dealers. And yes I know the Marriott is $265+ a night. My question is, what is Klipsch doing to promote its products to other dealers? Are the dealer incentives that bad that only one dealer is willing to carry some of the best valued speakers on the market? In my area there is more competition for names like: B & W, Hales, Martin Logan and Krell than there is for Klipsch. Sorry about the ranting, I do love my Klipsch speakers. I just think there has to be a better way to manage Klipsch transactions in the marketplace. Happy listening and enjoy! JT
  8. A little update on that article I mentioned. On page 90 there is an article titled "DVD-Audio 101". This is just a quick look at DVD-A, but it gives you a good idea of what it may mean to us in the marketplace. One of the interesting points that I did not know was how the sampling rate will vary depending on a lot of different variables. For instance, "...the 176.4- and 192-kHz rates are available only in two-channel mode because the system can't get enough data off the disc fast enough for more channels at those sampling rates." This format is very flexible though, it can utilize 96-kHz/24 bits for the front three channels and 48-kHz/20 bit for the surrounds. The discs are even capable of also having SACD tracks on them. It is way to early for me to consider investing in either DVD-A or SACD, but I think we will have a winner in the next couple of years. I think it would be good advise to look closely at the future of both formats before buying a player designed for either. Happy listening and enjoy, JT
  9. I already have a solution to circumnavigate this policy. Of coarse I will not be posting this solution. As I am sure it was our praise of internet deals that got everybody's underwear in a bunch. I guess we are going to have to keep our traps shut (or in the case of the BB, or fingers tied). Hell I could fly out to NYC stay in Time Square at the Marriott then rent a van and drive home and still save money for the difference in the price of my system compared to the local dealers. And yes I know the Marriott is $265+ a night. My question is, what is Klipsch doing to promote its products to other dealers? Are the dealer incentives that bad that only one dealer is willing to carry some of the best valued speakers on the market? In my area there is more competition for names like: B & W, Hales, Martin Logan and Krell than there is for Klipsch. Sorry about the ranting, I do love my Klipsch speakers. I just think there has to be a better way to manage Klipsch transactions in the marketplace. Happy listening and enjoy! JT
  10. You guys should check out the Neil Young article in the latest Sound & Vision. He hits some excellant issues right on the nose. He is a big fan of DVD-A. He is not a fan of CD. This is not because of multichannel capabilities, but because of the 24 bit 192kHz convertion compared to 16 bit 48kHz comvertion. I am out of time, you should pick up that issue, it has some other interesting articles concerning the future of the SACD and DVD-A formats. Happy listening and enjoy! JT
  11. I see all of the above opinions and comments as valid concerns or beliefs. Unfortunetly not all of the local dealers in the marketplace are working in partnership with Klipsch. I am in the Greater Cleveland market and it is very hard to buy a set of Klipsch speakers around here. There is only one local dealer for Klipsch. They obviously know they are the only game in town so there is no discounting. I understand that they have this market cornered and they have the right to charge list price if they choose to. They should understand that in order for some of us the get the most for our dollar, we are going to buy mail order or on the internet. I personally purchased my entire system from a mail order dealer who is an authorized dealer for Klipsh. I saved $975.53 including shipping on RF-3's, RC-3, RS-3's, Toshiba SD2200, and a HK AVR7000 by ordering it all by mail order. To me that is a lot of money and it enabled me to purchase a LF-10 from UBid. I would have loved to have been able to buy these products from a local dealer, but they left me no choice. I have always supported local stores in the past, but it has become much harder for me to justify doing so at this point. I do not mean to offend this particullar local dealer, I understand that they have a unique situation that they can capitalize on for now. I think Klipsch should be actively seeking more local dealers, to promote competition. This was just my two cents worth. Happy listening and enjoy. JT
  12. I just read my post again and it sounds like I am writing an add for J and R. I am sure there are other reputable mail order and internet dealers out there. And if you can get close to the same offer at a local dealer, than I would buy from that local dealer. I would say that I am willing to buy from a local dealer if they are with in 10% of an authorized dealer that sells through either the internet or mail order. Unfortunately my local dealers, or in Klipsch's case dealer, are not willing to compete for my business. Happy listening. JT
  13. Just a little FYI about mail order / e-tailers. I have had the most enjoyable experience with J and R Music World. I have spent more than $3,000 dolars with them in the last two years and my friends have also ordered per my recomdation. I have heard that all of the staff members are very nice, but I have had great service from Charlie in Sales. The reason I even went looking for an alternative place to buy equipment is the lack of competition here in Cleveland. Most of the audio equipment in the hand full of hi-fi stores sell at list price with little discounting and customer servie. J and R is very careful in shipping your merchandise, everything is doubled boxed with airbags between the boxes. Their shipping and handling rates have been very reasonable, a lot less than the 7% local sales tax. It only cost $100 total for shipping and handling including insurance to ship my RF-3's, RC-3, RS-3's and HK AVR-7000 (50lb receiver). I still don't believe they can ship that cheap through UPS, I just pulled out the paperwork to double check the figure and it was $99.95. The total bill was $2,549.95 including the receiver which sells for $1,399 to $1,499 at the local dealers. All of the products that I have bought have a factory wanrranty. You really need to check with the manufacturer to make sure you have a warranty when you buy from any dealer, local, internet or mail order. I am not saying you shouldn't buy from a local dealer, it just didn't make sense for me to do so. I wouldn't just jump into a purchase like this, I had bought some other items from J and R in the past and had been very happy. The J and R contact information is on the dealer locator if you want to call them in the future. You can buy from www.JandR.com , but I would suggest calling them. I hope everthing goes well for you. Good luck and happy listening! JT
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