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After actually getting inside of these,I can't get over how well they are made....of course..3/4 plywood..SOLID. The sanding starts in a few days, but considering how long they have been sitting and dusty they are in remarkable condition....in build. Ive been torn on doing the original theatre grey finish,which allways looks great with the two black speakers showing,.. or ready them for some outdoor work comming up this summer,which will be first big test for thme since the refurb. A buddie of mine has his annual backyard party in June,.and well..when i say backyard party.. its the size of a golf course...nearly... so i have to throw the sound a fair bit! road ready..meaning handles, dolly wheels proper jack field and that type of covering like u see on bass guitar amps with the metal edge bumpers and covering,..etc But i want a real professional look....nothing cheap I will still sit the cells on the top...they are BIG and will not fit the port area like the 511. Anyways,...this ALtec stuff is new to me,.as being Klipsch boy allways,.but have to admit its interesting. Bet these sound sweet with tubes hmmm maybe a citation tube amp next.....hehehehe

Hi EVeryone ITs been a while..happy New yr to all !! I just inherited a pair of ALtec Voice of the Theatre A5X Lord help me.....these things are huge my wife just shakes her head Now i know why Paul developed the CORNER horn.. Life aint dull .thats for sure,.just gotta figure out what to do with em , after i refinish em ROb

---------------- On 12/29/2003 5:25:45 PM kenratboy wrote: I am looking to replace my dead Parts Express plate amp with a new EQ (ART 351 looks cool) and amp. I know Crown and QSC are both good companies and both make $300 amps I like (600-800 watts 8 ohms bridged) - however, do you think one brand is better overall? I am partial to Crown, as they are part of Harman International, and all the dealings I have had with them (JBL, JBL Pro, Harman Kardon, and AKG) have been EXCELLENT (customer service was AWESOME.) Would a new (I want new, but I will be hitting the pawn shops soon...) Crown amp be good? I am looking at the XLS 402 for $300 from Musicians Friend. It is no frills, and thats what I want. $100 for the ART 351 EQ (has a good high pass on it) $330 for the Crown XLS 402 (800 watts) Sound good? As it is, I have no subwoofer right now ---------------- Hi Ken its been a while...happy New year The QSC or the Crown are excellent choices Sonically they are very close..QSC is faster..i think. I can vouch for the crown because ive used many of the them over the yrs,. and can speak for their Cement truck reliablity. Especially earlier on ,with racks of DC-300a and D150A BUT... ANother good amp for a sub is a Bryston 4b Cheers Rob

When i worked at the Audio store, my boss had Klipschorns at the house ,in Zebrawood! It compares with the finest furniture out there,in terms of care and finish. I agree with JOsh too, the JBL speakers had a beautiful American Black walnut finish that looked awesome. We carried their pro line of studio monitors and even the little 4301 had that finish. Rob

hi Bobd The nicest SS reciever i have heard."at any price is the Mcintosh MAC4200,@75wpc. Audio classics usually have em ,you might want to see the website re:price it varies. www.audioclassics.com a little more expensive off the top, but i guarantee its one of the last 2ch units you'll ever need to buy(if u do sell,MC retains value My 2ND choice would be any of the H/K 430-730

LoLo hey I have heard Bryston with many different Klipsch products, and i can tell you , its a nice neutral almost "round" sound,(as how my musician friends like to describe") I have a bryston 2BLP powering my Klipsch in walls in our new home cinema. ITs a REAL 60w/ch, split all the way back to the line cord. I once tried a bryston 3B when i had my Heritage Klipsch COrnwalls, and the bryston was one of my favorite 3 ,amps ive ever heard on the system Build wise,.they are cement truck tough, but musically nothing gets left out, or added. MY tube friends in here will get on me for this but the brystons do not carry that typical "SS sound" that many ,especially the lower end Mass market amps have. YOu can install it turn it on and forget about it... Bryston is BIG in recording studios,but also in PRO sound..where they make a "mirror" line just for the road. But the sound remains the same Its Money very well spent man. Hope this helps. Rob

wow, wonder how impressed his sales manager is with him?! HA! Gee would like to try this test on my KTP 484 subs... IM my case,.i worry more about structural dammage to the house....lol cause so far..i havn't been able to tax the 484's with anything i throw at them. Don't sound stores just luv customers like us! "I am a Canadian too"

Justin,.wow sounds like things are comming along well.!Congrats man! p.s your post has almost as many replies as the one for the Khorns signed by PWK.remember? Its all good,..ENjoy! Rob

hi mmiles I did all my home theater with seperate power 2 channel power amplifiers, stealing a page from my sound reinforcement days. My recomendation to someone earlier in here was BRYSTON. Built like a cement truck,but nothing musical left unturned. I purchased a 2BLP 60/wch for my surrounds. Everytihing is split,.right back to the line cord,and if you go for the 2BLP-pro, you get ballanced XLR ins and level matching controls. sonically the home and pro are identical. 1150 is my last check on a home 2B, but you might be able to get a broken in "pro" at a lesser price. Hope this helps

Justin,it all sounds very nice man! And you are doing what Judith and I are doing here, except ours is a complete basement refit,..for real HT (room within a room) Which meant moving of two walls and building one more with the alcove that holds the speakers, amp rack and of course the screen. I went with black lascalla's for L-C-R. KNowing that the Lascalla drops off somwhere around 50hz, i wanted something potent to keep up with the folded horns,so after alot of looking around at home" subs, i was lucky enough to come across the pro KTP 484 18" sub. well..i have yet to find a sub that can "move the furniture" like these can!!! And it seems to be a seamless extension from the lascalla . Every cabinet gets its own amp channel, which keeps things nice and tight. Power was supplied by two 20A AC lines that i had wired to the inside of the rack cabinet. One is dedicated specifically for the sub's amplifier,..a big Dynaco 416..one sub per ch. The other AC line feeds the other 3 power amps in the system I chose the recent Bryston surround processor It seems real easy to use. My surrounds i went klipsch in walls. For the screen, i admit i don't know too much about, but its a stewart and its perforated so the highs from the K-77's won't be muted. And the holes are smaller, because you sit alot closer to a home screen that in a commercial movie theatre screen. Were almost finished, but the back wall was a pain to install,..thats what hung us up The theater room is horseshoe shapped..neat eh We will come in shortly under $51,000 wich is 2,000 less than i though because i was able to do alot of the prewiring myself. this is what we wound up with.. After alot of hard work and "dust" System: Klipsch Lascalla L-C-R Klipsch KTP-484 18" subs (X2) Klipsch In walls- surrounds 20A AC X2 for amp rack-Hammond fan cooled Bryston Surround Processor Harman Kardon cit 16/A x2(L-C-R) Dynaco stereo 416 (subs) Bryston 2bLP (surrounds) Stewart centre channel ready screen Panasonic DVD player *all front speakers and amp rack are behind the screen,Only surround inwalls are visible

I see the Bryston 2BlP lists new for $1150.00 BUT..you might be able to get one "broken in" for around 850. US check out some pro sound people for 2BlP-Pro same amp with XLR in's and variable gains. "yum" here is a good website listing all the Bryston http://www.aaudio.com/bryston_2blp.html Also check out http://www.mcintoshaudio.com/ They handle other used GOOD audio,besides Mac Tom can usually find a good used unit for you. He's been a good help with my system. check out the pic of the Bryston hope this helps! Rob

The guys have lots of great suggestions here Mine is..:BRYSTON I picked up my 2BLP 50w/CH, for my surrounds Its a very honest,real 50w/ch rating. Think Clean Think BRYSTON BRYSTON BRYSTON BRYSTON BRYSTON

Shoe~ Re nice system Thanx man,.. yours too eh.. mine? a long time coming! lots of late nights wiring and "dust" (cough ..sneeze) Ugh! drywall!!

shoe~ oh yeah i forgot...lol ..System.. Klipsch Lascalla L-C-R Klipsch KTP 484 18" subs (x2) Klipsch in walls surrounds Hammond fan cooled rack cabinet Bryston HT processor Harman kardon citation 16/A (x2) Dynaco stereo 416 Bryston 2BLP Stewart Center Channel ready screen double 20A AC for amp rack Panasonic DVD player

Shoe~ yeah,.i see where u are comming from. if i were sitting in your chair now i would most likely keep what i have,..for the sake of having it. Im a guy who hates setbacks, and if i had to do mineagain and buy something else besides heritage for the H.T , i dunno where i would start. JBL pro? maybe,old VOT? most likely not. Changing to something else will change the whole personality of your system. And,its just a pain in the *** to start again! ROb

Hi Shoe Guess my interest still stands in the heritage lineup, as my next stereo speakers will be the cornerhorns. That also stems from owning 82 cornwalls, and now ,lascalla speakers in our big screen setup IF we had a Best Buy around here,.they won't be carrying heritage ,so its no use to me. But ,Fred wants in on the big time mass market end of the business,.Best Buy can put more of his product in the customers face, than the competition.(not that im pushing BB) this will be the Klipsch Eqiv,of the cavalier or neon, bread and butter. Because..folks don't order lincolns everyday. but...they do still order....!

I hate to come in here and be cynical..really But its all about the $$$$$. Tied in with how much the retailer can move in a month . Best buy moves allmost as much electronics in a month,as Wallmart does with all else. I would never come out and say this if I didnt know,.but after working for one major retailer and two major PC manufactures, everyone is looking at their monthly margins. And from Fred Klipsch's perspective,. if its his brand massed on the center isle ends,the better for Klipsch LLC. I didn't want this to be so long winded but , image aside,..its really about monthly margins and the minimum amount of turn on the goods And..their retailers return policy's. Plus to be a world player,..Fred has got to be there with the sony's the JVC's,the onkyo's But hey,.we can still order Heritage from the high end places..so im not so worried. I can't see that ending anytime soon. And maybe PWK would rest easier knowing it.

Wow ..this really interesting! Lets see,Oldest i would assume is my Dynaco 416, i bought from my Neighbor recently but he purchased it in its first yr run in 1977. The second oldest, my two H/K citation 16/A amps, built in 1978. Interesting,,i bought these at two different time points, yet im told they were made within a week of each other at the plainview plant. Everything else is brand new outa the box!! system klipsch lascalla L-C-R klipsch KTP 484 subs (X2) klipsch in walls surrounds Hammond 19" fan cooled rack bryston sourround processor harman kardon cit 16/A (x2) dynaco stereo 416 bryston 2bLP twin 20A power supply Stewart center channel ready screen panasonic DVD player

---------------- On 2/14/2003 11:32:07 PM William F. Gil McDermott wrote: Yeah, I can see where this is going. The world changes. Klipsch must be looking for the distrubutor with the lowest mark up, to keep the retail price as low as possible. The next step is direct sales from the factory. Horrors! (smile). I can appreciate that PWK was selling his wares by having the stock on the floor of dealers where people could listen and be "converted" to the merits of the product. Yet buyers knew, and know, they are paying for that overhead. For good or for bad, buyers are not willing to pay for the showrooms, and there is a relentless pressure by buyers to purchase without the cost of a demonstration and hovering salesman. And we don't want to pay for the cost of advertising outside the modest investment on the 'net. Hey, it is like automobiles. In days past, you'd go to a showroom and get convinced, if not seduced, this is a good car for me. Not so today. We want rock bottom prices on the internet. There is some some sanity to direct sale, where we are going. We want technical performance and the results of R&D. You can't help but look at a speaker and conclude, "I paid for a slick ad in Sound and Vision." The interem is that Klipsch is using the most low cost distributor. We should not be surprised. Hewlett-Packard, a powerhouse of high tech technology, is reduced to the same. Are there any HP show rooms? Do we want them? Gil William your are correct!! Up until recently I worked for HP client support,..NOW you have a problem,..U must go to the website... ROb ----------------

Didn't some Quad and Naim amps have the power switch on the back?

Hi (again) Moon! As for the question of leaving the amps on . my above answer was based on the information that I was given by one of the Bryston techs. Knowing that my HT amp rack was in a remote location,. i was concerned about these left powered up all the time. Bryston tells me that there is no harm in leaving these on and forgetting about them. Make sure the ventilation is good, and that the power supply is stable,.eg not going to go on/off alot. Bryston does recommend constant power up for their units,.as is the case in their permanent sound installs ,clubs and studio installs. i took it as good advice and made my own HT decision based on this. hope this helps ROb

Hi Moon I read your question about computers,on/off? I have worked for two global computer companies, compaq and HP,and its been our findings that the computer boxes are best shut down every night after use. Expanding and contracting happens in many things once heated up, your TV, your laptop, even under the hood of your car after its been running a while. The ONLY time i would recommend leaving your HOME pc on is, #1-if its running a home network, or#2 if its a machine that must be accessed from another machine E.G your laptop when your away on business ,through dialup. We have come across far too many problems with home pcs left on over night or when someones been away on vacation. It is usually after this happens it generates a call to the manufacture or the retailer with some type of PC trouble. All the above does not apply to Bigger office and Corporate Frames, that must be accessed constantly from the oustide...! Hope this helps ROb

I have read that too, and after comming from a pro sound background,we used to leave racks of amps /processors/crossovers/equalizers on 24/7,with no ill effects. But mind you thats pro sound, with amp racks and things in sometimes hard to get places. But having said that i leave my own amp rack on in my home theater system..mainly cause its behind my center lascalla ,behind the screen. but hey.! I see no ill effect with modern SS equipment Just make sure it gets cool air circulation. I would not leave Tube gear on all the time. system klipsch lascalla L-C-R klipsch KPT 484 subs x2 klipsch in wall surrounds Stewart center channel ready screen Panasonic DVD player Hammond amp rack: fan cooled bryston sourround processor harman kardon cit 16A (x2) dynaco stereo 416 bryston2BLP double 20 amp power supply

Trey Awesome ! IF memory serves that is also who makes the k-33 in my lascalla (1999) and my previous heritage, cornwalls (1982) IT is in very good company! Thanks Trey thanks man,.. ROb

There just ain't nothing that will dull out those bass waves ,heading downstairs!!! In college, i lived above and below guys with great stereos,and one bass player with an Ampeg!! THink im just catchin up on my sleep now!!