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The reason I chose to ask " Klipsch afficianados" was exactly for that reason. Many here are much more tech oriented than me and also have many other audio/HT experiences. I respect these opinions and they are discussing surround options just as I hoped. I'm leaning towards matching Klipsch ceiling mounted surrounds, although not in-ceiling matching surrounds for this particular application. Appreciate all the discussion.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-10518634_ITM Bose 901's: Review with SPL's measuring all Hz

Here's one of the best 901 article's I've read. He used a meter to accurately measure each Hz on 901's and added some good comments. Extremely reflective surface like tile appears to be best. I read that softer surfaces like dry wall absorb allot of mid and high frequencies. Matching the Klipsch's should be best for most music. I'm going to keep loking at proper positioning and set-up.

I ran into an interesting article on 901's SPL's measured by a SLM across all frequency ranges with comments: http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-10518634_ITM It seems that softer dry wall absorbs a great deal of high and mid range frequencies. The better reflective surfaces are harder like brick or tile, or heavy glass. For music, a full range matching Kilpsch appears to be best. With different HT seating positions, the 901's may be better. In my processor's set-up, I can adjust surround speaker's distance and default volume. The front of a Proceed AVP2 +6 has dedicated buttons to temporarily adjust default volumes and balance.

Has anyone used 901's strickly as surrounds for both HT and multi-channel music ? I'm looking for much more than my in-ceiling surround speakers for both HT reflected sound and direct multi-channel sound reproduction. I read some guys have added higher end EQ's on 901's to flatten out the mids and add sparkle to the highs. I'd probably use the processor to cross over both the mains and surrounds together between 80-100 Hz with a SVS Ultra 13 covering sub duty. The 901's direct/reflective design appears to have potential as ideal surrounds, if a better/additional EQ can provide improvement to the sound reproduction as surrounds. My room is unusual as I have to mount surrounds in a large vaulted ceiling. Can anyone share experiences and thoughts here? Any particular 901 series that may possibly sound best? Thanks Thanks

Are your 62's mounted on the L/R walls, about even with the seats, with the horns facing front and back? Multi-channel DVD-A, SACD and some redbook CD's in DTS, etc. have music demands that are much more than reflected HT surround sound. Yet, that reflected HT sound quality could work with additional high quality direct sound reproduction for multi-channel. I read some guys have added a higher end EQ to Bose 901's connected only as surrounds. This flattens out their mid-range peak and adds boost/sparkle up on top. I may need something bigger like these if they have the potential to reproduce the sound quality for both HT and multi-channel music.

I'm looking for HT/Musical surrounds for a 30 x 30 Florida room. My in-ceiling Klipsch 8" reference coaxials just don't provide enough room fill. Good for direct music. In fact, too directional for HT sound reproduction in this room. Klipsch's best surround speaker match for RF-7's? I was looking at RS-7's, then saw Klipsch has newer styles for surround design cabinets. Don't know if new ones would match better or are up to RS-7 build quality components. I also found the Paradigm Signature ADP3 v2. Different beast, but one fine looking set of surrounds that does both music and HT very well. Please add your favorite surround speaker choices for RF-7's. Large is fine. A dipole design, with both bi-directional HT reflective qualities and directional music qualities would probably be really good. Thanks

Professor Dean or Another RF-7/RC-7 Upgrade Pro, I am very interested in the best audiophile level upgrade to smooth out the dynamics in the horns with the other two drivers. I purchased the set new in 2003. All's currently stock. AMP: Proceed AMP 5. SUB: SVS Ultra 13 and two HSU MBM-12's. Overall, a very good sound and occassionally excellent, but not what I'd consistantly call beautifully detailed and non-fatiguing and smooth like my Mackie 824 Studio Monitors and REL Storm III. The Mackie dome tweeters really smooth out the vast majority of so many less well-engineered recordings yet have the definition and sparkle that sounds best to me (almost addicting) unless the recordings are exceptional. The best consistant sound I've found is adjusting 2.1 stereo mode with the Klipsch RF7's, SVS Ultra and MBM's first (room calibrated from my processor), then, adding the Mackie 824's and REL through a direct HDMI connection into my Sony TV. This allows me to adjust the Klipsch's, SVS and MBM's first, then blend in the MAckie's and REL. What may be the best recommendations today by Klipsch audiophiles after experiencing various upgrades for the Klipsch RF7/RC7 reference line? I also installed matching Klipsch 8 inch reference ceiling surrounds. Very appreciated.

Professor Dean or Another RF-7/RC-7 Upgrade Pro, I am very interested in the best audiophile level upgrade to smooth out the dynamics in the horns with the other two drivers. I purchased the set new in 2003. All's currently stock. AMP: Proceed AMP 5. SUB: SVS Ultra 13 and two HSU MBM-12's. Overall, a very good sound and occassionally excellent, but not what I'd consistantly call beautifully detailed and non-fatiguing and smooth like my Mackie 824 Studio Monitors and REL Storm III. The Mackie dome tweeters really smooth out the vast majority of so many less well-engineered recordings yet have the definition and sparkle that sounds best to me (almost addicting) unless the recordings are exceptional. What may be the best recommendations today by audiophiles after experiencing various upgrades for the Klipsch RF7/RC7 reference line? I also installed matching Klipsch 8 inch reference ceiling surrounds. Very appreciated.

Another vote on RF 7's and AMP selection: I thought that the few comments I read on harshness was simply inherent to the RF 7's. I couldn't tame it correctly with any settings on my Yamaha RX-V2400. My RF 7's sound much better with the Proceed AMP 5. The limits of the internal amps in my Yamaha reciever, especially for RF 7's, really stood out. Both the Yamaha and Proceed are rated at 120-125 watts each. Huge difference in smoothness, detail, and balance on a linear scale when adjusting the volume. The calibration is effective throughout all sound modes. Any harshness in the higher frequencies was removed when I added the Proceed and recalibrated. I give the RF 7's and Yamahas' internal "Parametric Room Equalizer" / "set-up" calibrator a huge vote. Automatically adjusting each speakers size, distance, Q, and volumes in 10 separate frequencies to a "flat" response worked great with RF 7's and in my listening area. I was actually considering different speakers before changing out the amp and recalibrating. I'm keeping the RF 7's and matching front and surrounds at his point. Very enjoyable and no extended listener fatigue at all. RF 7's are a great value when properly set-up and amped.

Klipsch RF-7 : Pricing info New $2200.00 $1500.00 High $1620.00 Last $740.00 Low Used $1270.00 Oct 01 Aug 08 Klipsch RF-7 released 2001, 10in woofs That's a sales history from a good source. I bought RF 7 demos in 2003 for $1800.00 The sound from the RF 7's alone sound very fast and musical when properly set-up and EQ'd. Their sound balanced out extremely well with a Proceed AMP 5, REL sub and two MBM-12's. Adding home theater, I feel the RF7's and most front's/surrounds benefit with occassional addition of mid-bass and bass, especially in large rooms - 900 sf/approx 8500 cf.

"Doing one sub at a time, I gradually moved the subs out from the corner an inch at a time whle playing music with very low bass. All of a sudden each sub seemed to mesh in with the room somehow and punched out bass depth I never heard before. The only tricky part was integrating the absolute phase of each sub. Initially when I switched on both subs I lost some bass compared with just one sub working. I figured out that both subs were set on '0' phase and one was cancelling out some of the bass of the other. When I switched one of the subs to '180' degree phase, I got the bass back, and then some! Wow! Subwoofer postioning is so important - just a little finetuning can make a big difference..." Perfect follow-up post ...Moving them one inch at a time away from the corners...and reversing the phase on one sub to minimize cancellations... Future technology may make it possible to visualize sound waves in the listening area during set-up and placement. It can remind me of Thomas Edison. After thousands of tests to discover the best filament materials, I read that his first truely successful light bulb still works today after a hundred years! I believe it has been continually "turned on" and displayed at the Smithsonian. Thanks for the successful update.

I'm speechless...that could probably levitate people off your furniture. The "Volume control" and "Play" button should closely guarded by only those with high security clearances. Does your insurance include coverage for home implosions from SPL's ? Obviously, it's a perfect example of truely fuctional furniture in the finest of style.

Linn produced a 12 x 2 sub in their 5100 line called a 5150. It was later renamed Melodik with some driver changes. Has anyone had any experience, possibly heard or can otherwise comment on these subwoofers? It's RETRO styled unit approximately 4 CF ported (2 active 12's) with a 200 watt amp. Having trouble finding much info at all. Thank you.

Start at the top and learn about the absolute highest end products (careful with rare botique type products). Matching the system components together is important. The source (disk player, etc.), reciever or processor/amp, and speakers should all be purchased to produce the type of sound that you enjoy best. After reading many review/ratings, certain names and models will begin to stand out and repeat themselves to you. What holds value in the secondary market can be very helpful in determining proven build quality, sound quality and customer service. Learning how to "set-up" a system can truely optimize sound systems. Without it, your system may only sound good playing certain type recordings. With it, and patience, your system can sound great to you on almost all music and home theater recordings. Room volume (future room volumes, too) and ideal placement are part of the set-up process. Digital room calibrators available in some recievers/processors can be very helpful. Subwoofers may require a more sophisticated room calibrator than available in a reciever/processor. Once the best digital calibrations are completed, complete the process by ear. If you go with a reciever and possibly plan to buy separate amps later, look for "pre-amp outs" from the reciever to connect the amps. Matching the pre-amp voltage output from the reciever/processor to your amps input sensitivity is important. It helps assure optimal performance and rated wattage from the amps. Both 5k and 7K can purchase nice systems.