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  1. Heh, just wondering what AR speakers you're running. I know the 4.1's aren't near the level of my 206HO and CS25HO speakers, but just curious...
  2. I'm CURRENTLY running a Celery 466, 192 megs PC133, TNT2 U.... and everything works fine with my AE, so should be no probs with yours. PS. buy some more RAM it's cheap as hell!
  3. Nah, go with the AE. I've tested both cards on MY speaker system (MUCH higher quality then any multimedia system), and the AE provides a better and nicer overall sound. You might think the QMSS funtion (the one that seperates the channels so well) isn't much, but think about it this way. The AE can take a good 2.1 speaker system and produce a very reasonable facsimile of a 5.1 environment, and in a 4.1 setup, I found a phantom centre channel to be more pronounced. Another interesting advantage is the ability to take a stereo source (mp3) and blow it out into a full 5.1 (or in the Pro's case, a 4.1). Unless you're a VERY strict audio purest (because the music is stereo, they would argue that playing it in something like 4.1 would colour the sound), you would probably find the effect to be pleasing. As for the GTXP, ya, if you want the breakout box, go for it. It'll provide the same quality as the AE (they're both similar, AND they're both higher quality then the Live 5.1), so either one will do. As for the Audigy, don't put ANY faith in it until it's come out and been reviewed by reputable sites (3dsounddurge).
  4. LOL! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You supposedly live in a house that has a room this big and all you can afford is multimedia speakers?!?! LOL! Me thinks you need to use a tape measure there tho. If your room IS massive tho, don't bother with ANY multimedia speakers. Hell, if you had a room that was 60x80', MY computer setup (bookshelf speakers...) would barely be able to provide a sufficient volume level for something like that!
  5. Nah, what's the point? For the same price as 2 4.1's, you could seek out a better solution, hell, even the 5.1's would probably be a better buy.
  6. First off, I know I'm coo Second, they were all taken within the last 2 years (I'm 19).
  7. Bah, headphone jacks. The XP isn't a TRUE 7.1 snd card tho, it's just a 5.1 that has the ability to use headphones because of the breakout box, but true 7.1 cards (the cards, themselves, not things like breakout box and whatnot), aren't around (hell, they might be, but they'd be in the higher end audiophile categories, not mainstream public cards) As for IQ, well, I've taken 4 seperate official IQ tests from seperate sources, and they ranged from about 139 - 145, so 142 is a decent average.
  8. 127 IQ eh, decent, I'm sitting high at 142 myself, so as for the previous comment, a 6.2 setup? Heh, a rear centre speaker wouldn't make much of a dif at all, the next logical step up from a 5.1 setup is a 7.1, but since there're no 7.1 sound cards, not much point in going that route yet.
  9. Bah, BB wars are boring (heh, no substance), so coo. And this msg looks screwy because of my AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA's. Anyways, suffice it to say, go out, listen to the 8200's and the Pro's, and decide which you like better, easiest and best way.
  10. LOL, this is phunny. And what're you saying you expect more from me? Heh, I wouldn't expect much from me based on just the sporadic postings here. Anyways... Watts - Meaningless because you can have all the power you want, but the speakers themselves aren't greatly improved because of it. Look a the X-fires, they're about 90w or so, and they get louder then the Pro's and they're more neutral then the Pro's as well. History of company - Well, aren't you a big boy, buying all the BIG brand items? The problem with that is, when you limit yourself to the BIG ticket items, you tend to get cocky and ignore all other possibilities. You think to yourself, "hey, I'm paying a HELLUVA lotta cash to get this, it IS the best!". The problem with that is, you don't look at the other brands out there, and you miss out on items that would be considered a better deal. Intel? HELL NO, AMD all the way unless it's not your cash. Creative? (I assume sound cards), LOL, you can get the Philips Acoustic Edge or the Game Theatre XP, which both outperform the Live 5.1s in sound quality. IBM? (well, depends on what you're talking about, but for some of their hardware, there are better options. Epson/HP, well, depending on the hardware in particular, there might be better from other brands, it all depends. The point is, you limit yourself to the big names, and you miss out on a lot. THX - Ya, THX means something, but the MULTIMEDIA THX cert. is a monsterous joke. There are better speakers then the Pro's out there, but wait, they're not THX certified! Oh, guess that means the Pro's ARE better, right? HELL NO. THX Multimedia seriously means nothing, it's just something to stick on the box so people will see it and say, "HOLY CRAP THX CERTIFIED SPEAKERS!". As for repeating you, well, obviously you've never heard of agreeing with something you've said
  11. Ok, if a 4.1 vs. 8200 comparison is what you're looking at, I'll just poke some holes into Justins post Heh, his list of advantages are... - watts (HA!) - lower Hz on da sub, probably, but the Pro 4.1's and the 8200's use 6.5" drivers, so they should go just about at LOW as each other, but the Pro's sub, which is a dual 6.5" setup should go LOUDER. - more dB? Well, I'm too damn lazy to look it up, but if memory serves correct, the Pro 4.1's SHOULD be a bit louder then the 8200's. - history of company? meaningless - THX? AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHA... AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA - the centre channel of the 8200's is NOT useless, and I think even Klipsch has admitted that by MAKING a 5.1 system, wouldn't you? - No argument on the seperate mid/tweeter, it does usually make a large dif. - Klipsch look cooler, ya, guess so, but ah well Now, if you want to look at 5.1's vs. 8200's, then ya, definately go with the 5.1's. they will play louder, will have deeper bass, and of course, look nicer
  12. Nope, to get something like the 5.1's, probably your best and easiest bet would be to sell your 4.1's for as high as possible and then get the real 5.1's. The main differences between the two are a sub with larger drivers, more overall power, the centre channel, and of course the control tower. The 4.1's amp wasn't designed to power another speaker, so no way to do that. The OTHER possibility would be to order the 2.1's to go with the 4.1's, and those would act as your centre channel, but then you go through the whole thing of having to control the volume on two pairs of speakers, so in the end, the best thing to do is go for the actual 5.1's
  13. BAH! 2 - 2+ GHz? That means you're going P4, which is a VERY crappy choice. You'll be spending a LOT of ca$h, whereas you can buy one of the new Palomino's from AMD (should be about 1.5 - 1.7 GHz by October), and it should easily match a 2+ GHz P4, and it's cheaper overall
  14. If 5.1 games is what you're looking for, toss the Acoustic Edge into the hat as well. Heh, wireless devices are cool, but I think I'll stick with corded items I have a MS Intellimouse Explorer (also have the Logitech Mouseman, if I wanted to use that), and this nice lil' keyboard, it's one of the ones HP shipped with their computers a few months ago. It has the regular beige keys and stuff, but the purple translucent frame around it, with ALL kinds of extras. volume control, play/stop/ff/rr/eject for movies/music, all kinds of stuff This message has been edited by VIV on 07-24-2001 at 11:43 PM
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