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  1. On 10/9/2020 at 8:23 PM, Dave A said:

    I understand and have been well pleased with the two way pro systems I have had and the S-MWM. I stuck those N314x on my 402's in lieu of the 1132's and was amazed at what they did. My complaint and the reason the 1132's went back on there was lower notes like Cellos or the deeper set of chimes on Pink Floyds "Time" sounded much better with the 1132's. But wood percussion, cymbals and higher hz  instruments sounded better with the N314x. My preference is for better mid range but if I could combine the two and get the best of both it would be jaw dropping.

    Hi Dave.  Have you found the crossover points and low mid driver to combine with these N314x. They sound so promising, but the words above have slowed me down on any movement with them.    I see you are using a different horn than what I will use, a ZXPC horn, either the 18" or the 17"  ( I haven't been able to narrow in the sonic differences). Could that cause those issues with Cello, and Pink Flloyd bells? Alternatively, I am also looking at the DH1A and DE10 combo sitting on top of my Cornwall bass bin (and then with FH1s when they raise their heads on my local CL) as a possibility. 

     

    JWGorman, Have you found any issue in your lower mid range? Your speaker system sounds similar to what I'd do.

     

    Thanks for any insight!

  2. I had saved a bunch of threads from the Klipsch forum from around 2009 but it looks like they don't link up anymore. There was a thread that explained the specification parameters that Paul Klipsch used to determine if he wanted to use a particular woofer as a K33. Does anybody have a link to that? Much appreciated.

     
  3. I had saved a bunch of threads from the Klipsch forum from around 2009 but it looks like they don't link up anymore. There was a thread that explained the specification parameters that Paul Klipsch used to determine if he wanted to use a particular woofer as a K33. Does anybody have a link to that? Much appreciated.

  4. I've been traveling, but want to thank everybody for their response. Does anybody know what the Orphean horn is an example of? I think it is what the Avant Guard's use. Here is a picture of BD Designs version. Also, I'm wondering what the black sleaves are? I am thinking of a two way with BMS 4592ND/16 compression drivers.  I don't know yet what to use for the horn or the woofers? The Orphean looks like a possibility.

    orphean horn kit.jpg

  5. On 10/14/2018 at 9:43 AM, wvu80 said:

    Maybe it would help to approach this from the other way around.  What are you trying to accomplish?  DIY build?  Rehab an older Klipsch speaker?

    I want to learn about the different horn possibilities and what they are good for, but am hearing amazing things about the BMS 4592ND (the full range ones,) so looking to make a build around these. I owned Cornwalls and loved them, but am wanting to move up in build quality. If appropriate, I could start with the Cornscala square bass bin.

  6. Thank you Chris and Peter. I will study this info. And Diz, your info might just come in handy someday. There are questions I have that might not be answered in these links, like what are all the important considerations in the connection between driver and horn? and is the rigidity of the horn important (As in best material to use)?  Can you Damp a horn too much? Should it be very smooth? Thanks.

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  7. Thanks for the info WMcD...I am beginning to understand xmax on a whole different level. The question arose when I began looking at the Great Plain Audio, Altec woofers.

    I've heard both good and not as good things about them compared to the K33 or the Crites woofer. I want to keep the slam of the square k33 that I have, but am curious about the 515 8LF or the 416 ( not sure which is better between these two for my cornscala application) because they look like a very well made speakers. I was wondering if the lower xmax on the Altecs means lower punch (or dynamics).

    What does a higher end woofer do for you (other than lower bass). Can you get a tighter bass , but not lose that 70's sound?

    I have been wondering what a Cornscala with an Altec Woofer, Altec 902 or Community M200 mid-range, and a Beyma CP25 (or others ) would sound like.

  8. Thanks JB for the info...the lessthan/more than "p" fix worked. All the other ideas from other folks might work too just haven't tried them yet.

    I should have looked at your equipment list, before asking you about what your icon . I thought I recognized the horn. How does the BD integrate with the Kornerhorn bass? I've been drooling over the Swings, they look like beautifully made speakers.

  9. Thanks JB

    Thats an interesting speaker on your icon. Is it a Klipsch Corner horn mod (cornerhorn bass box)?

    I'd like to open up the question I asked DJK to others that have heard good upgraded drivers. Looking for smoothness in the mids and highs (not bright) yet not dark or veiled either, and a sense of air on top. I like the sound of the square k33 mid-bass, but am not sure what more dollars would bring me . Be as subjective and descriptive as you want in your impressions.

  10. DJK

    I read a decent amount of threads on here and have enjoyed many a person's insight. I have read a decent amount of your posts ,as well, since I feel you actually don't speculate, but are experiential in your pursuit of good sound, ie. you experiment with drivers and do A/B testing. I'm wondering if I could pick your brain on the topic of Cornscala's and beyond? I have a pair of Cornwalls , 1974 (square magnet), Atlas mid etc. These speakers are great fun...I've had a decent amount of high end speakers in my life (Thiel's, Totems, Paradigm Reference, Martin Logan's... all were enjoyed) but I've always been somewhat analytical with my listening of these, where as, with the Corns I sat back and enjoyed the music and they certainly passed the toe-tapping test. Granted they were being played on good gear, Bryston B100.

    I'm intrigued with the idea of Cornscalas, because if PWK was a master of getting good sound from inexpensive parts, what would it sound like to throw in some higher costing parts. I am in a holding pattern, because there is so much info out there about this driver or that one. I can't make up my mind on what to do. I like the idea of a two way with the GPA 902, but feel like I might not get that sense of air on the top in, so might want the Beyma CP25(three way). I like what you have to say about the community 200's midrange (although a little $$$ steep for me right now). Met a guy in Portland Oregon that make's Paper mache' horns who had a pair of JBL 2446's on them...sounded great. Then there is the woofer category Altec 416, Crites, Eminence Kappa Pro-15LF-2.

    I have purchase a Altec 511b, the Selenium D250X and the Eminence APT 200 (unfortunately, the new version) as a stop-gap 2 box cornscala project, figuring I could change out to better later (still haven't built these yet).

    So, to make a long story short...the Driver menu is much too large for me to make a decision. You have a great knowledge base and seem to know musicality.

    If you were building a good, better, best (the ultimate) cornscala what would the three driver/horn compliments look like, and why the choices? If you are willing to take the time, I thank you for your help and expertise.

  11. Going back to speaker break-in, and the debate over breakin or getting used to the speaker. I've spent 21 years in the business and have had a slew of speakers. I remember, breaking in a pair of Totem Forest's that I had purchased ( a speaker notorious for long break in). I put them close together facing each other and put one of the speaker wires out of phase, I was told this would keep them from bothering me or my neighbors and the cancelling seemed to work). I then covered them with blankets and took off for vacation with a rap station playing. Five days later I could tell that they had more bass, the mids and highs felt more relaxed in other words the speakers were much more listenable. There was not a chance for "getting used to" these speakers in this scenario. I did feel like they took forever (3 more months) to fully break in and that could have been me gettting use to them. Those Totems were quite wonderful in so many departments including sound stage. I do understand the subjective nature of my statements, but I would rather trust my ear than a measuring device for Audio almost every time.

  12. Just wanted to thank both of you for your replies. The xmax info was helpful to the max (couldn't resist). I want to keep that West coast Klipsch sound, but will be building a Cornscala so was looking at All my possibilities ie Crites woofer, K33, but other higher end ones including one from Great Plains Audio/Altec 515 8LF (hearing mixed reviews, but look like they go down to 20hz).

    I have seen the link you sent me before in regards to K33 specs, this one is helpful , but there is one out there that talks about how Paul W Klipsch picked certain parameters when purchasing a new k33 from a vendor (Eminence, University etc.).

    Good listening

    Spencer

  13. Hello everybody

    I read this forum a lot but haven't posted in a while...Seasons Greetings!

    Question one: My hard drive died so I lost my link to a particular thread that had PWK's parameters (specs) for what makes a good k33 ( it might have been woofer in general) for him? I'm not talking about any particular k33 but all incarnations of k33 when Klipsch went out to buy a woofer..

    Question two: can one explain the sonic characteristics of higher xmax. My guess is more punch since their is more air movement, but I don't have the expertise that some of you do in this category. I ask this because I like the sound of the Cornwall's bass, but am intrigued by the Great Plains Altec 515 8LF. The altec has a xmax of 5mm where as the k33 is in the 8's. I have also read in the forum mixed reviews on both (aren't forums great..." I love rocky road!" "I hate rocky road!")

    Thanks for any info.

    Spencer

  14. Went up to Ptown and saw Little Feat last night, so I missed our Furum discussion part of yesterday. I'm suprised that some say La Scalas aren't great for Loud music since horns tend to be used as "Loud Speakers" in concert situations. Are the Cornscalas more of a Rock Speaker than Lascalas?(or should I say all around speaker that can also play loud?) I love all types of music, but once and a while wanna crank up the volume!!!

  15. The TAD's look interesting ,but a tad too much for my pocketbook...I think I'm seeing them for $1200 a piece, am I right? That reminds me, I need to go get a lottery ticket. Despite it being overspendy for me right now, I like to know this info for my dream system...hey , you never know.

  16. ...and as an aside for all you Gamelan fans out there , young and old, here is a link:

    notice the mallet perchance purchased at Lowes. Gamelan is a percussive instrument as is the piano. Rock on!!! There is a hypnotic quality to it, I must say.
  17. Great photo Pat!!! I am in the know that sometime a two way can far exceed a three way speaker in sound quality. I bet it sounds sweet. Is the K69 proprietary to Klipsch or is it farmed out...if farm...does anybody know the brand and #?

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