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Funny that I just now stumbled across this. After a three-month wait, I finally today received a replacement midrange horn for my Cornwall IVs that I bought in November (I noticed the damaged horn shortly after I received the speakers). Over the last few months, I was always able to eventually get in touch with someone in Klipsch customer service, but those folks were never able to get updates from the warehouse, so they couldn’t tell me when my horn would ship. It was literally the same story (“you’re in the queue, we just have to wait for the parts to arrive from the warehouse, we haven’t forgotten”) every time I called because they were simply unable to get updates from the warehouse. I’m sure it was almost as frustrating for the CS folks as it was for me. Fortunately the horn arrived safe and sound, but now the grilles on those same Cornwalls (plus a pair of Heresy IVs that I also bought in November) have started to sag. Evidently it’s a known issue (and I’ve tried the hair dryer fix among others, and nothing worked), so I contacted customer service again and they’ve of course graciously agreed to replace all of my grilles under warranty. Unfortunately the grilles are all backordered and there’s no ETA - once again, the customer service folks can’t seem to get the info they need from the factory. And Oh, I also haven’t mentioned the fact that one of the particle board speaker risers on the Cornwalls was damaged upon arrival. The outer boxes were pristine when they were unloaded from the pallet, so the riser probably left Klipsch that way. No biggie, I built new risers: I doubt replacements are available because the mounting holes in each riser aren’t evenly spaced and seem unique to each riser. It wouldn’t have been worth shipping the speakers all the way back to the dealer just for some riser damage, but it’s still frustrating to deal with on a big-ticket item. I know it’s just grilles, and before that it was just a plastic horn, and before that it was a damaged riser, and I understand that COVID is throwing a wrench into everything, but having these issues with brand-new, fairly expensive Heritage models is disappointing. Couple that with CSRs that are stretched to the brink...well, the arrival of additional help in CS is greatly welcomed. Anyway, from my perspective, the customer service guys are doing the best they can, but they just can’t get the info they need from the warehouse/factory/wherever-the-parts-come-from, so they have to deal with unhappy customers because they can’t say when parts are expected to ship. Overall I love my new speakers (I mean the CWIVs are just incredible), but from a QC and parts availability standpoint, it’s been the worst Klipsch experience I‘ve had, and I’ve bought at least 50 new Klipsch speakers over the years. Despite this, I’m glad to hear things are on the mend!

Definitely down for one!

The new Jubilee appears to “all that and a bag of chips,” but one thing it certainly is not is “a size that could fit almost anywhere.” By any standard Cornwalls are large speakers, and the new Jubes absolutely dwarf them. The Jubilee is huge for all the right reasons, but let’s be honest, it isn’t exactly the kind of speaker you’re going to slip through the front door without anyone noticing.

For sale is a lot of espresso Klipsch Icon W speakers (3x WF-35, 3x WS-24, 3x WC-24) in the Cincinnati/Dayton, Ohio area. I'm asking $1250 for the set. I bought them new from Newegg and they've been in storage ever since. All nine speakers are new and unused. I opened the towers when they arrived to make sure there wasn't any shipping damage but other than that they've been in storage. Obviously they're still in new condition, both cosmetically and performance-wise. They have no dings, scrapes, scratches, or any other signs of use. For those who are unfamiliar, these are probably the most nicely-finished speakers Klipsch has made other than the Palladiums. They have real wood veneers with seamless radiused corners and edges and are very, very dark brown...almost black. Needless to say, they're probably among a select few speakers with a very high WAF. Also, the horns in these speakers are round, meaning you could use the centers oriented vertically or horizontally; in other words, as LCRs or surrounds if you're so inclined. This lot would enable you to build a 5.x.2 or 7.x speaker layout while leaving two speakers as spares! Unfortunately I won't these sell these individually - given the price I'm selling them for, if you only need five speakers, consider it as getting an extra four speakers for free. Needless to say these are for local sale only. The total cost of shipping each of these boxes individually would probably exceed their selling price. Please PM if you're interested. Also, it's a cash or PayPal + 3% sale only. Thanks for looking! Greg

I think I figured out the right way to do this without making a mess. Since I have access to the inside of the split corners because of the way the bottom of the speaker is constructed, I can use a syringe to squirt wood glue into the back sides of the splits and it shouldn’t get all over the veneer. I can then clamp the split closed by clamping the parallel sides of the speaker. No muss, no fuss, and should be a permanent repair.

The front four corners on all of my Klipsch RF-7 IIs are splitting just like the picture shows. I'm not sure why this has happened; the speakers have never gotten wet, they're in a low-humidity finished basement, and they've never even been moved since I installed them. That said, they could've been like this for a long time, but at this point they're six years old so a possible warranty claim is out of the cards. The splits don't extend into the interior of the speaker (obviously - you wouldn't been able to see the orange foot behind them otherwise). Also, the splits aren't just the veneers peeling back because, again, you wouldn't be able to see through the entire thickness of the speaker. FWIW, the splits seem to stop where the routed channel/inlay on the bottom of the speaker ends, so I'm hoping they're as bad as they're going to get. Since I suspect this is purely a cosmetic issue, what's the best/least intrusive way to fix this? I'm leaning toward filling the splits with colored wax furniture filler and calling it good. I could clamp the splits and try to glue them back together, but given my limited skills that has a high probability of making a minor cosmetic issue much worse. TIA for any suggestions!

SOLD. Thanks for looking everyone!

Check your PMs. Your voicemail box was full so I was unable to leave a message.

For sale is a pair of SVS PC12-NSD subwoofers in the Cincinnati/Dayton, Ohio area. The subwoofers are priced at $750 for the pair. I bought them new in 2011 and they're still in new condition, both cosmetically and performance-wise. They have no dings, scrapes, scratches, or any other signs of use. I have both boxes and all of the included materials as can be seen in the photos. They've only been used in my dedicated theater room and I haven't moved them since I originally hooked them up. They're great subwoofers; it's just that I recently upgraded and simply don't need these any longer. Unfortunately I won't these individually - most people who know about SVS subwoofers (or any of the ID brands) would understand why it's best to install these in pairs. I will consider shipping these but the buyer will have to pay the full shipping costs plus insurance which I'd estimate to be around $150. Put simply, I'd really, really prefer to sell them locally. Please let me know if you're interested. Thanks for looking! Greg

Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but I just today ran into this exact issue for the very first time! It took me an hour to figure out where the squeak was coming from (I initially thought it was my speaker stand) but finally narrowed it down to the two little holes on the bottom of the RC-64 II "whistling." My solution was to thread the threaded feet that come with the speaker all the way into the speaker (I used another threaded foot that I had from an RC-62 II).

The original Reference speakers (i.e. the RF-3 and RF-3II) had solid MDF front baffles. Their successors (the RF-35, RF-82, and RF-82II) also have solid MDF baffles, but with added plastic trim pieces on top. i find the claimed baffle improvements a bit disingenuous. After all, if the plastic trim pieces are such a bad thing, then why did they add them to models that replaced the RF-3 / RF-3II? The claimed baffle improvements don't apply to the RF-7II or RC-64II since those models never had plastic trim pieces on the front. Regarding potential RF-7II / RC-64II replacements, they might be a way off according to one of Alex's posts over on AVS.

Well, you get what you pay for. If you read through the SlickDeals.net thread you'll see that the vast majority of the speakers that Fry's is blowing out are floor models that are in horrible condition. IMHO it's not worth the discount to buy a speaker that looks like it's been dropped out of the back of a moving vehicle. You're better off calling Sound Distributors or Acoustic Sound Design and buying brand-new, A-stock speakers for what's still a huge discount off of MSRP.

No, the Premieres aren't higher than the RF-7II. The RF-7II, RC-64II, and RB-81II will remain in production as the top-of-the-line speakers in their respective categories (floor standing, center, and bookshelf).

Just curious -- what sorts of advantages are we talking about here? More significant that the types of changes that Dave discussed in post #942?

I do agree that the spin with respect to the Tractrix bass reflex ports is a bit much. "Utilizing Tractrix geometry, the all new Reference Premiere ports allow for the most efficient, fastest air transfer from the cabinet – for the cleanest, most powerful low frequency response on the market." C'mon. As long as the inlet area, exit area, and length of the nozzle is the same (and, let's face it, that's all the port is -- a divergent nozzle), then the shape of the nozzle's walls don't really matter in terms of "fast air transfer." In fact, the fact that the nozzle is diverging serves to slow the air down upon exit -- which, as mentioned earlier in this thread, is a good thing in terms of port chuffing/noise. I really doubt that the Klipsch engineers can say with straight faces that the shape of the new ports provide any tangible benefits over run-of-the-mill flared ports -- if so, I'd love to hear that logic. But the ports certainly do match the design aesthetic of the speakers (heck, they look great), and honestly, that's good enough for me. To use one of moray james' favorite phrases, there's no need to "yellow button" the reasoning behind the new ports. As far as the other statements being spin - I really don't have a strong feeling one way or the other. I think that without a complete redesign incorporating a new philosophy, minor tweaks from generation to generation are what are going to ensure that the Reference line undergoes continuous improvement. Overall I'm pleased with what I've seen so far -- the changes seem like they've kept costs down, will likely improve performance (even if only marginally), updated the aesthetics of the line, and maintained the Reference line's value relative to the competition.

Andy intimated in post #919 that the monitors' bases can be removed if you're willing to take the risk of possibly damaging the speaker. In other words, they're not designed to be removed. For all practical purposes, you're pretty much stuck with the upward 2 degree tilt.

The RP-150M have wall mount hardware on them. Dang, I didn't notice that! That wall mount, coupled with the fact that the speaker plinth actually puts some space between the speaker and the wall so the port can function, pretty much answers the concerns I had. Thanks!

I don't see the problem. Why not put bookshelf speakers on a.......bookshelf? I assume you're not just being argumentative, so I'll respond...What if I want to use these bookshelf speakers as, say, front heights in an Atmos installation? They'd need to be aimed down at the MLP and having to set the speakers on actual bookshelves won't work. Same thing when using them as traditional surrounds where room limitations necessitate them being mounted higher than ear-level. They'll need to aimed downward and that ain't happening if forced to use a "real" bookshelf for mounting. Not to mention the fact that, in most installations, having to hang little shelves all over the room just to set surround speakers on is, well, ghetto. This isn't even considering the fact that the rear-facing ports make near-wall placement far less than optimal. The Reference II bookshelves had front-firing ports and wall-mounting hardware. Someone at Klipsch thought it was important that they be able to be wall-mounted, so I'm not just pulling these ideas out of my a$$. The old Reference II bookshelves were perfectly acceptable substitutes if one wanted to use them in place of traditional WDST surrounds. That simply isn't the case with the Reference Premiere "monitors" -- your options are far, far more limited. These trade-offs must've been weighed by Kllipsch's engineers when they were designing the Reference Premiere monitors. I'm just curious to know what Klipsch's line of thought was here when removing the options for near- or on-wall mounting.

So do the Reference Premiere Wireless bookshelves also have rear-firing ports, non-removable bases, and no mounting hardware? Based on what I've seen so far, all of the new bookshelf speakers just don't look suitable for wall mounting. To me, that's a serious oversight, especially for the wireless system, where the intent is clearly for the bookshelf speakers to be used as surrounds. I'm really not trying to be a killjoy, but in the past there were suitable alternatives if one didn't want to use WDST speakers as surrounds. I'm just not seeing that with the Reference Premiere line. What is Klipsch's intent here?

Hmmm...I'm not seeing the wall-mounted surrounds at the link you posted.

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I guess the facts that the new Reference Premiere bookshelf speakers are rear-ported, lack wall-mounting hardware, and have a (presumably) non-removable plinth base rules them out for use as wall-mounted surrounds, huh? I prefer the WDST surrounds myself, but those particular RP bookshelf design choices might alienate that segment of folks who prefer to use monopole speakers for surrounds. And what's the thinking behind the slight upward angle the bookshelves seem to have?

Now those are pretty cool. A modern profile with retro styling. I like.

Better buy up while you still can. No more ten inch Reference, eight it it. KLF20 KLF30 CF3 and CF4 will be getting very expensive now so will Chorus and Chorus ll. Or you can buy the great little speakers that Klipsch will be selling and you can sit closer so they will be almost as loud. Best regards Moray James.Enough already. It's been stated several times that the RF-7II and RC-64II will remain in production for the foreseeable future. There's no need to rush out and scoop them up for fear that they'll disappear overnight.This new Reference Premiere speaker line simply updates the majority of the Reference II line. All the flagship Reference II speakers that didn't see an update (RC-64II, RF-7II, RB-81II) will remain in production except for the RS-62II. I'm sure the flagship Reference II speakers will see the Reference Premiere updates (new styling, new horn design) in due time. All the gloom and doom baffles me. Chill.

I'm pretty surprised that the price increase is as modest as it is. As I said earlier, these look to be a solid update to the Reference II line. I'm curious to see if similar tweaks (accompanied by a similarly-modest price increase) make their way into the RF-7II / RC-64II / RB-81II later this year.

I'm pretty sure you mean "frequency response" graphs or something similar. Fluid dynamics doesn't have have much to do with speakers unless you're trying to figure out how aerodynamic your speakers are. it's all air buddy... Ha. Good one. Look up "fluid dynamics" on Wikipedia and tell me if you see anything relating to acoustics in that article. I'll say it again -- the discipline of fluid dynamics has nothing to do with speaker design unless, as I intimated, you plan to drop your speakers out of a window and you're trying to figure out how much air drag will slow their fall. Heck, if I'd known fluid dynamics had something to do with speakers, I'd have been a lot more enthusiastic about getting two degrees in the field!