James I like that denon and the price is great. I researched a little on the unit and I really did not see to many positive reviews….I guess it’s the old model? I have been researching for hours now and I really like that pioneer VSK-1018AH. Very powerful unit, with tons of features and great reviews. Its 430 which is over my budget but I am willing to sacrifice. What do you guys think? The reason I want 7.1 is because eventually I am going to be getting two outdoor speakers to put in my terrace which I plan on running with the unit. The onkyo sound nice, but seem a bit pricey and lack the power I want. I could be wrong… Again, thanks for all the help.