Wolfbane
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Before you decide on crossovers it would be wise to map out your long term plan for the Belle's so you don't end up buying something just to end up buying again.
Now if you plan to go hog wild changing mid horns and drivers then the path should be completely different. My main speakers in my shop I utilize a Dean built Super AA along with a ALK transformer based tweeter attentuator and can play with every horn driver combination to my hearts content. These crossovers absolutely perform and sound like MUSIC!
I think my best motto in this arena is....When it comes to audio remember what is technically better is almost never musically better. To me this is about music and its natural sounding reproduction.
I'm not one to go hog wild but prefer to incrementally change things one piece at a time. I'm thinking tweeters first, than crossovers, than maybe change out or upgrade the mids last if required.
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Now I'm considering upgrading the Belles
What crossovers and driver types do your Belle speakers have? Some part changes came from driver updates (old ones no longer available) IE when were they born?. chris
They are currently as original from the factory (1982) with the ratty Type AB crossovers which I know have to go. I've got a pair of Type A/4500 Crites, currently not installed, as I would need to update the tweeters to run these. These speakers sound good as is with my low powered tube amps but not as good as the modified Cornwalls they replaced.
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Did Al tell you that you have a "one lunger".?
Let me put it this way: Al is not big on marketing
. Same case for me except I hired someone to handle that for me years ago.Wb
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ALK Universal or Cornscala-wall universal crossover.
Both sound great
Al told me he didn't like low power amps driving Klipsch speakers and that I should replace my amp with one with more power. Lol.
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Back to point, I am waiting on some AA's with Jensen PIO caps form DeanG that should be here soon and I will let you know how they sound.
This another place for upgrades if you want to go that route Belle V-Trac Horns - Klipsch Upgrades by Volti Audio - Speaker Restoration.
Thanks for the link, I haven't seen these before.
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Sorry wolfbane, I didn't mean to hijack your thread. If you spend any amount of time around here, you'll quickly see we're a lot like family. There's normally a lot of private sharing, and it's normal for threads to go off on tangents. There's squabbling too - sometimes we poke each other in the eye, both deliberately and by accident.
Welcome to the forum!
No problem I've two girls myself. A little older than yours.
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I've sold my beloved Cornwalls and replaced them with Klipsch Belles. These speakers are driven, some of the time, by my 2 watt per channel Yamamoto A08-S amp which uses EML 45 tubes.
My Cornwalls were upgraded with Bob Crites CT-125 tweeters and Bob's crossovers.
Now I'm considering upgrading the Belles and would like recommendations from those with more Klipsch Belle or crossover experience on what would sound best with these speakers for low power tube amps (I sometimes run my 16 WPC 211 Set Amps or 16 WPC EL-84 tube amp)?
TIA,
Wb
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Some people are cap swapping on their vintage amps all the time (I have not). I have never been able to find a post where someone did a cap swap on their Crites or ALK crossovers. Will be interested to see if someone has here though.
Wb
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Crites Crossovers and CT-125 Tweeters made for a big improvement over the original Klipsch XO's and Tweeters in my 1979 Cornwalls but it has me wondering: has anyone attemped to 'upgrade' Bob's XO's further with different caps, etc?
Wb
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No one seems to like the original Klipsch AB crossovers. What exactly is the problem(s)?
Wb
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Not sure what happened to the side. Discoloration is in the finish, no damage other then cosmetic.
No veneer is missing just a bright flat light source.
Wb
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And the side damage here:
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Close up image:
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Well the Belles are here sitting in the garage until I have an opportunity to clean them up, replace the tweeters and XO's later next week. One speaker is in wonderful cosmetic condition the other water damaged I believe from a leaking planter or glass of liquid being left on the speaker. There is also some surface damage on the same speakers leaft side. All damage is visible here:
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Thanks for both your detailed replies on this. I have owned a pair of oiled walnut 1979 Cornwalls that were pretty much in mint condition for their age when I acquired them as the 3rd owner. These speakers are nice and easy to maintain with applications of only a product called 'Terra Nova Naturoil' 3 or 4 times a year. After looking for a pair of Belles for a couple of years within a six or seven hundred mile range of my home I found a pair on the internet. They are lacquered red oak and the quality of the photos I've received from the seller who is using a low resolution camera is quite poor.
These speakers are going to be here later this evening and I'm going to take some detailed photos tomorrow. I will post them here sometime tomorrow after I figure out how to post images.
Wb
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I've got a pair of 1982 Belles coming which are serialed numbered with the finish 'BKOL' (red oak lacquer) . They are going to replaced my 1979 Cornwalls which have the oiled walnut finish.
Can someone recommend a good commercial product to use for cleaning up and treating the veneer finish on these? Initially I just want to apply something that will clean the veneer but not adversely affect the finish.
TIA,
Wb
Best Crossovers and Other Upgrades for Belles Driven by 2 Watt
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I should add here: no external parts as anything like that would not meet with the WAF seal of approval. The Cornwalls are out and the Belles in because they are 'not as ugly' in the eyes of the three woman living here with me.