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let us know how the outlaw shtuff works out, def curious to hear your opinion on things. To elaborate more on the impedence, impedence can be looked at as how efficient they are as well since its a measure of resistance, the less resistance, the more efficient it is. Now, dont confuse that with the sensitivity, sensitivty is how well the speakers utilize the power given to them regardless of impendence. Every 3 db increase in sensitivity requires half the power to reach the same volume output, hence why these speakers perform as well as they do. If those speakers had been 95db, it would require twice the rms power that is suggested. Correct me if i am wrong anyone, but i am almost positive that that is correct. Amps alot of the time can accomodate a spread of impedences, typically a receiver will do around 8-16ohms but is dependent on the type you buy, others will go down as low as 6ohm, this is common in the onkyo models as some of their speakers are 6 ohms. In the other, more high quality amps, you can get those impedences down to 4 ohm's. The range is good because at times, it can allow you different wiring combinations, this becomes a lot more prevalent in the car audio industry as you encounter DVC and SVC speakers as far as subs and the amps also can have stabilities down to 1 ohm and some down to .5 ohm. This is just to give you more an idea of whats out there, i hope i helped and give you a bit of an interesting read . I am very much a car audio guy and what not so i have learned these over the 5-6 years i have been driving.

CL is a huge market here, a good deal of klipsch on there soi am keeping my eyes peeled, like i said, im going to picky with what i end up getting in the end! i shall find what i am looking for eventually.

i dont have any experience with them, i did do some research on them though and i did find some mixed reviews. I didnt find any that said the units went bad and stuff like that, just more so along the lines of software issues on some stuff. I did this research over a year ago and with these newer models out, im sure they have addressed those issues. Outlaw is know for making high quality equipment and i believe they offer a 30 day money back garuntee, you just have to pay the shipping back and a small restocking fee i think. They are internet only, no brick and mortar store, this helps their prices but leaves you taking a chance. I would buy them in a heartbeat. and like i said, they offer firmware updates too from time to time!

Component style is a good way to go because each components does a task and that is always better because those components are designed for that and are generally better at what they do. If something breaks, no issue, the whole thing doesnt need to be replaced, just that component. You have jack of all trade equipments like receivers which are awesome alot of the time but lack in power output as well as other things. You can spend the same on components as you can a single receiver but when you do component style you have way more options. Powered subs are most common for home use since most of them drive high wattage subs which most receivers can't push let alone finding a good high wattage amp to push them isnt an easy deal. You will notice that there are suv outs on your receiver, that is just what its there for, sub out for a signal. There is alot of crap about how many channels to have, in most cases, 5 is all you need and now with new options, 7,9,11 are the new channel options. & channel is becomming more common but most audio formats on dvd/bluray are still 5 channel and then the receiver/processor can decode it further to make those extra channels. 7 channel is becomming standard and there is nothing wrong with it. Good preamp/processors will give you the otpion of setups as in 5 or 7 which is most standard provided the receiver can do 7 channels, but it should also give you the option of 2.1 and 3.1 as well. Check out www.outlawaudio.com i have been peeping their stuff for a while and have always heard great things about their amps. You can get a 7 channel 7X125 for about 1000 bux and the 7X75 for 699. They also have preamp processors which are awesome because they release firmware upgrades via the internet to upgrade your firmware. Its good to have alot of power because you dont want to underdrive them which can cause clipping. In most cases, a high quality amp will do just fun. I like to run any of my audio with the minimum recommended RMS but i always take into consideration its peak power as well. Klipsch speakers usually have good sensitivities, especially on their towers which makes them more efficient.

I know everyones house is different, everyone stage is different, wouldnt a great place for the sub be below you tv with your center above the tv angeling down? That way what you watching is coming at you both voice wise as well as bass. I know bass is omnidirectional but yeah, the subcrawl is common lol as well as finding the sweet spot. Go figure

i will keep looking there, im not too into the shipping deal, i would much rather do a local pickup

I really do like the wf's, they are bright and the deal they have going is rediculous, im happy you took advantage of the deal, i wish i could sooo badly. Buying used isnt a bad thing, i agree with that, i suppose if they are buying klipsch and at those prices, they probably have taken care of it, one would think, but of course this isnt always true. I don't just want klipsch to say i have it, i want to have it because they sound good to me so i want to be a bit choicey on what i choose. Spending 350 for towers isnt bad right now, i can afford that and it can postpone my need for a new set which i can acquire down the road. I am cruising craigslist way more diligently now, making sure things are magnetically shielded since thats uper important right now. I dont know how i feel about buying from audiogon unlesss something is local, i would much prefer to hear it tested and what not.

Speaker width is a concern, i am able to fit the reference series towers for instance. Im not very familar with the older klipsch products, like i said, only the past 2 years or so.

I am in no position to buy anything right now rather i am just planning and doing my due diligence. Those are actually the best speakers klipsch-wise ihave been since i started looking. I have a 5 channel sony receiver right now with 100wattX5 so i was going to use that for now. This is seperate from the HTIAB kep in mind, i actually have them hooked up to some bose 201's i got about 10 years ago, they arent magnetically shielded so putting themnext to my tv is a no go!

One of the biggest issues i have seen is the power loss in receivers when you run a full 5.1 or higher. I read many of the reviews that are in my sound and vision magazine and most really start to tank when you add on the channels. Check out http://www.soundandvisionmag.com for reviews on equipment. Marantz is quality, sony's tend to slack with the power as you add channels, pioneer as well. Denon is also great for receivers, onkyo as well. I do love HK, they make really high qualit receivers, i have one and absolutely love it Alot of the receivers out just do too damn much for what a person really needs and unfortunately, those addons cost you more money. Power is another thing, more power, more money. 1000 bux is alot for a receiver, this is where IMO you start to get into the range of where considering a preamp/processor becomes more of a reality. Im very much for component style in the end, all in ones do serve purposes and i too have a 5 channel sony receiver but at that cost, the curve for me starts to take components into consideration. Im a fiend for outlaw audio, never heard a bad thing about them aside from some software lacking, but they are great, you can download firmware upgrades from the internet. They are hella expensive, but their amps are awesome. May be something to consider, get a functional receiver, low power, less money and buy an external amp.

Is there a reason why you want a NAS drive? Are you doing like a home media project? I would recommend that if you dont need an NAS drive that you could just build a nice tower with larger drives and more of them than just an NAS.

i have been checking out used klipsch for some time and i really dont know how i feel about it. Some things i love to have new, i would love to break in a new set of speakers. I like the icon w's i just thinkt hey are still soo new and their price is high, i don't feel that they are worth their MSRP on here, i like the RF's for their cerramatic cones and they are aged, tried and true. I like the aesthetics of the new klipsch's although aestethics are a small part of the sound experience, it does matter to me as i feel that klipsch produces a product with sounds that are so good that one can actually put aethetics in as a requirement.

Hello Klipsch Community! I have been cruising the klipsch site for a good 2 years now after i had first purchased my GMX computer speakers which i was awfully unhappy with. I posted in the other section about them and found out that the gmx series was just a really shoddy product overall. Needless to say, this has not stopped me from looking at klipsch and claiming them as my most desirable brand. I have heard and i love the sound of klipsch's speakers overall and the quality you can see, feel, and hear proceeds the klipsch brand name. Needless to say, im a college student graduating in december from ASU and although money will be tight, acquiring klipsch is definitly in my future. I am in a 2 bed 2 bath apartment right now and i wont be moving into a house for a bit, i need to make sure i wont hang myself financially first, i am looking to buy towers that can grow with me as well as my living space. Right now i have a Sony HTIAB and im not dissatisfied with it, i think its great compared to the tv's built in speakers but it just isn't that full, wholesome sound that i want to hear. A few stipulations that i am keeping in mind is that i live in an apt and the bass will travel and bother my surrounding neighbors. I am also building the system as i go, i am not purchasing all my components at one time let alone have the room to really do things properly. I am not going to run a 5.1 but rather a 3.1 since the depth of my room isn't big enough. I do not mind a full frontal sound stage at all, i just want to hear things much better than i have ever before. The subwoofer is optional as i said before, the bass carries but im not turned off to the idea as i can control the bass via gain and other controls in my 5.1 receiver. With this said, i would like this to be an investment, one that i wont have to upgrade for a while since money is tight. I am not turned off to the idea of bookshelfs but i would prefer towers since i can fit them. Im not really too sure as to the major difference between the two aside from the obvious size and frequency ranges on some models. I dont ever plan to be a true home theater, just very much so a living room surround sound stage, I just want some good quality drivers to make a system that i would be happy with. Right now, budget wise, i was looking to spend around $1000 max for towers, less is more preferable but if the extra money is worth it in the long run, i would spend that much. Next step is the center channel or a sub, depending on what models or what deals are out there, i would go with one or the other. I have heard both the reference RF-62 and RF-82 as well as the WF-35 and WF-34. I liked them all, i thought they all sounded good, i checked them out at Best Buy's Magnolia Room and i can say that i was happy over all with the sound quality. My big thing will be to have bass, i do want lows an i noticed that the reference series has a much wider frequency range and can handle the lows, in this case, i wouldn't buy a subwoofer but most likely a center channel instead. The Icon W series sounded very clean, i thought the WF-34 had too small of a sound for me while the WF-35 presented a much larger feeling. Best Buy is having a smoking deal, if you buy two WF-34 or 35's you get a free XW-300d free. This is a smoking deal and i wish i had the money. This makes these towers a seriious contender since they are 549 a piece right now and coupled with that subwoofer its a huge deal. The WF-35 without the sub does feel that it is lacking in the bass department. The RF-62 had a good sound to it, i thought it felt not too large and not too small. The RF-82 definitly had a big presence, i felt almost too large. Both of the references with their more bassy lower extension would allow me to not purchase a subwoofer but a center channel instead in a time frame much tighter then if i did the ICON W's. I also heard the ICON W bookshelf speakers and was amazed at their output. But once again, they would need to be coupled with a subwoofer. Now, running dolby digital, 70% or so of output is done via the center channel and overall, to me, may negate the need to buy huge towers, spend more, and just use bookshelfs instead. I know my ideas and thoughts are alittle jumbled and are all over the place and its hard for me to construct things in a more coherent manner. In the end, i am trying to be cost efficient, achieve a good, clean, bass worth soundstage that can grow with me. The icon w's are more than the reference in some cases and i was wondering if they were really worth the money they are being sold for. I need your input!