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  1. I have a pair of K-25-K Woofers, I recently replaced them with CW1230's. Make an offer, I have them in the CW1230 boxes and I have no idea what shipping costs. Personally I'd rather sell to someone in the Boston, MA area to avoid shipping.
  2. I actually took the pedestal from a Quartet, laid in on it's side and it supports my flat screen. The Quartet blends well with the Chorus II's.
  3. I agree, I have Chorus II's, Forte II's and Quartets. Sure the Chorus II's have the largest sound stage, of the three pair, I use the Quartets as center channels for both the Forte II's and the Chorus II's. Through the miracle of YPAO ( Yamaha Parametric Audio Optimizer) all sounds balanced and really good. My neighbor has RF-82's, an RC-62, subwoofer and surrounds, all Klipsch and he likes the sound state better in the Chorus II's and the Forte II's. He is newbie to Klipsch, his first pair, the RF-82's and nothing remotely resembling Heritage line to compare to. All of the above said, I do enjoy gaming on his system, sure my speakers are richer, fuller and far better for movies, at least this is what friends say, they come to my flat for movies and music, his flat for games. We live in identically sized condo's, each 1850 sq ft, the the main entertainment room is 35' x 20'. I call them flats because they are all one floor. Our power is identical, Yamaha receivers RX-V573 models which are up to the task. The characteristic that makes my speakers is that they don't ever screech at me the way horns can, Maybe it's the 3 way system, maybe it's the passive radiators on all three models, even my center channels. The whole thing comes down to personal judgement. Personally I do prefer the sound of the Heritage line, but it's my preference. Same with the RF-7's, they are two way speakers and do suffer some of the horn characteristics that PWK would never have signed off on, although in fact I think he did later in his life, The total surround sound of my friend's system \is awesome for MOH Warfighter, COD games and that kind of thing, although dynamic range is definitely is on my side. We're both Xbox people. The Palladium series, the Heritage series are all three way systems. Different horn lenses are for different frequency ranges, at least that is the theory. In practice it works well. My neighbor loves his R*-82 system, but he concedes both sound stage and that "fullness" of sound to my heritage 3 way systems. I'm sure that an RF-7 owner will come up with arguments based on personal taste. I have totally restored the Chorus II's and Forte II's, crossovers and titanium tweeter diaphragms. I love these speakers and will not part with either pair in the future. As center channels go the Quartets are really good, a real, full range center channel, although I roll them off at 80 Hz. Dave Brubeck has never sounded better from the string bass to the cymbals.
  4. One of my neighbors has the ore open, it;s nice but I prefer my Chorus II's and Forte II's. I guess I just like the open sound of the earlier horns.
  5. Some suggested that I combine my two Quartets into one center channel, my front channels are Chorus II's. Any body have a thought, serial or parallel wiring or maybe this is a bad idea. I use the center channel for movies and tv. I go two channel for music.
  6. I recently had the opportunity to purchase a pair of Chorus for little money ($400). I heard them and loved them, as much as I love my Forte II's. They are bigger and have a bit more punch @ the 40 -50Hz area. Was it worth getting another large pair of boxes for the marginal improvement, nope, not for me. By the time I'd be done with new crossovers, diaphragms, etc. it just ain't worth it. Either way you go, it's a great listening experience. Back in the day, these guys were around $1000 a pair, I should've bought two pair and saved twice as much. I like both the Forte II and Chorus, they are part of the Heritage line, a line of great speakers, designed by a group of people that really knew how to design speakers. Of course I love the fact that these speakers were hand made in Hope and that it was easy to replace everything that I needed to update. Okay, I'm convinced, I'll go out and get the Chorus, for $400 a pair I've got nothing to lose.
  7. As an owner of a set of Forte II's and a Quartet center, I do love the sound stage and balance of the Forte II's. There are very few speakers that can hold a candle to the FII's, By this time I have replaced woofers and diaphragms for both sqwaker and tweeter, in addition to new crossover networks. I have done the woofer and diaphragms in my Chorus center. It seems like whenever a new video game is previewed or friends want to just kick back and chill, they come to my house. I have a mediocre receiver Yamaha, the RX-V361, it has a lot of power (100 watts/channel x 5). Rarely do I go above -40 db gain on my receiver. Jimi Hendrix with the "Band of Gypsies" , probably his best period. The Forte II's create a spacious sound stage with just the right amount of bass and wide open midrange and a brilliant but not brash high end. Music is done two channel, I use the center for movies and video games.
  8. Sometimes overkill is great, sometimes, it is exactly that, sound bouncing off walls make it hard to tell when you're getting flanked. I run a PS3 slim which goes into DTS for SOCOM 4 and Dolby Digital for MOH 2010 and Mass Effect 3. The AI in SOCOM 4 is ridiculous, so I have to dynamically position squads in the middle of a fire fight, I love the dynamic intro to ME3, but I hate getting flanked so I keep it down to a civilized 70 - 80 db, I'm around 10' on axis from my center channel a Klipsch Quartet. I tend to pickup the clues and I hate using headphones, only Klipsch can really delivery the dynamic range and low end necessary for games. A lot of old Klipsch boxes dating back to the 1980's and a blend of modern digital technology for gaming.
  9. A good review. I live in an apartment and I have the Forte II's, they sound great as long as they are placed right. I use a Quartet as a center channel. I have a pair of RF-3's in another room, they are two different animals, but both are good pets.
  10. I agree, I use a Quarter as a center channel, it already has a bass line, so rolling it at 80 hz (THX compliant) is no problem.
  11. I did just angle the speaker down 10 degrees( after your response), either way, it does the deed. The tv ( 27" Sony Wega ) actually weighs more than the Quartet, so I would have had to make a really solid shelf. One day I'll break down and get an HDTV, then I'll put a shelf around the Quartet, under the tv.
  12. Well..another few MDF boxes with horns and passive radiators. When I was 15 I had a Rhodesian Army Poster and Silver Surfer posters on my wall
  13. Ok, so I have issues, don't we all, I had to opportunity to get a pair of Quartet's to go with my Forte II's. One of the Quartets has a dead and woofer. I had to replace both tweeter diaphragms, easy enough. I figured, what would make a better center channel for Forte II's than it's sibling. I mounted the Quartet on a piece of MDF about the size of the television, I have not run into any shielding problems, I set the back post up in the shape of an equilateral triangle.and all is good, In my little 20 X 10 office. I sit about 8' on axis from the center channel. This "old technology" provides that rich, powerful sound that is the hallmark of Klipsch, something that has been lacking from my previous attempt (RF-52's, RC-52 and an RT-10d). The power of the Forte II's and the Quartet center present a full sound stage, with much more depth and presence than my "new" RF combination could have possibly done. These speakers (Forte II's and Quartets) were true to the design principles of the pioneers of acoustic engineering, which in it's uncompromising infancy was far beyond it's years in wisdom. When I fire this system up every morning, I marvel at the brilliance and elegance of designs created from a understanding of technology that seems to have been lost over time. For a little office system, cobbled together over time, this combination of sheer power and open sound never ceases to amaze me. Sometimes I think we get so caught up in the gadgetry that we lose sight of the bottom line, how it all sounds. I have never really listened to an iPod, as I remember some crazy speaker designer in Arkansas trying to propagate a 20 Hz wave length through folding a horn and placing it in a corner. No amount of DSP can make that can happen with a pair of micro diaphragms plugged into the outer ear. Some times I listen to the blose eating morons up here in New England and realize that they know no better, but I do. To achieve power through the deliberate act of simple, functional engineering is truly an art form. Form should be integral with function, not a result of a fashion ( cute little cubes with cheap speakers and an elaborate DSP unit as part of the input side of the equation ). I love using google chrome, but I wish this darn IIS generated text box control would recognize more line feeds/returns. I had to again edit in IE, which means using IE(note to Amy Unger and the IT staff). That one little Linux machine in the background can serve 20 client requests for media throughout the house, some times beauty is the way that function dictates correct form, the Linux kernel is an example of this. The open and simple nature of the Linux kernel allows me alter form in accordance with function. SAMBA and SMB/CIFS allow all machines to access shares (one of the few really good Microsoft standards). Those Forte II's and Quartets are an example of how sound engineering principles create a form that emanates true beauty and power. Like other Klipsch products of it's time, performance was the bottom line and the form that followed is both beautiful and functional. Ok, that was my rant, if any one thinks it's coherent, please respond in kind. And if you do find a coherent thread in these musings, do us all a favor, seek professional help. -I'm still on the hunt for a k-10-k.
  14. I thought changing impedance would mess with the crossover....
  15. Are the Forte II woofers also 4 ohm, if so, oh well.....
  16. Thanks, this is what I have been told, I just needed a confirmation. I have actually found a couple of replacement woofers with very similar thiele-small parameters. Same for my Forte II's...as Klipsch no longer has an interest in supporting these products. I am lucky enough to work with a local Klipsch dealer, but I really like what I have. In March I am going to take two Quartets to make a center channel for my Forte II's... Yes I have sought professional help.
  17. You are not mistaken, but I never put anything on my credit card that I can't pay off at the end of the month. More aboding, does this signal the end of the Heritage line?
  18. I have been told that the impedance of the woofer is 4 ohms, which doesn't add up (barring crossover magic) Vt = (Va * Vb * Vc)/(Va + Vb + Vc), assuming this is a parallel circuit...am I retarded...forget that.... If this were true the nominal impedance would be 6 ohms...that's not right. Does anybody have an answer, I think the guy was full of beans...I smell a 10" 8 ohm woofer, seems right as the speakers nominal impedance is 8 ohms..
  19. Hope I got the right guy, I'll take those K-75's;;
  20. I'll take the K-75's A.S.A.P. Thanks...
  21. I'll take the k75 tweeters....let me know, quickly...
  22. This is a question I will leave for the erudite among us, because I don't think there is a wiki page on it, although the Forte II does make the Klipsch wiki page. The Forte II's great strength was sound, it's weakness, expensive to make, expensive enough to cannibalize the Cornwall market by pushing it's price point to a higher level. Not like I think companies are strictly motivated by profit, but this is a company that actually brings proof of concept to production, which is pretty cool.
  23. If my relatives weren't such a bunch of bose eating morons, I'd leave them to them, not like I'm going any where tomorrow, so between the Forte II's and the Quartets I am in hog heaven, the Quartets are a great center channel. Since Klipsch no longer makes woofers for the Quartet, I got the theile-small parameters from Klipsch Parts, and found the matches. Go figure, my local DYI electronics store had what I needed. My Forte II's were made in 1995, so they are relatively young, too bad my deaf younger relatives can't hear it....bose eating morons, the whole bunch, maybe mine will go to the local VA Post, or my Coast Guard Aux post. But I really have to be dead first, otherwise, no way...
  24. The crazy part is that I now use a pair of Quartets for the center channel. The Forte II tweeter diaphragms were replaced with crites titanium, the xover caps with Dean Westcott, I am quite fond of them. The Quartets ,made a great center channel, once I get a new woofer for one of the Quartets it'll be back to two.
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