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I wonder if the new speakers will be offered in tri-amplified versions.

+1 for the Grado. I have a Grado Sonata on my SL1200 and it sounds wonderful with the Khorns, no hum at all. It was recommended by Kevin at KAB who also said he runs horns.

Awesome!!! I would love to hear them. Thanks so much for the invitation. I'll send you a PM.

In addition to the tube amps already mentioned, I've heard of the following being used with Khorns: Transcendent T16 (single or bridged) Cayin A-88T (Integrated) Cayin A-50T (Integrated) Eico HF-81 (Integrated) Latino ST-70 or ST-120

Absolutely beautiful Jorjen!!!! I wish I had your talent. Can't wait to hear your review.

Thanks Al. Revision made.

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Why not run the same 2" wood horn and 2" JBL driver on top of a La Scala bass bin? If you use the same Universal crossover they should sound pretty close. I've heard Al Klappenberger say that you could use his AP12-350 (mid to bass crossover meant for Khorn) on a La Scala if the La Scala was being used as a center channel. I bet the Universal would work well this way too. If need be, the La Scala bass bin could be put to one side of your screen since lower frequencies are less directional. (I would still keep it in the front.) Then the Khorn top could be centered over or below your screen. In the Garage Sale area there is a La Scala bass bin on sale right now for $125. Edit: Sorry. I missed you were already using a La Scala as a center. I bought a split La Scala to match my Khorns for the front channels. My plan is to do what I mentioned above. I think you will be missing way too much information if you cut off below 400 Hz. Larry

Dave/Coytee/Mark Thank all of you for your comments. I'm learning a lot and for me that's part of the fun. (Coytee, I didn't receive your PM.) I researched Ashly limiters for my subwoofers and was very impressed with the reviews. Ashley seems to emphasize sound quality over features. I've been reading Mark1101's and Rudy81's experiences regarding the Ashly Protea 4.8SP with great interest. At this time I don't know which way I'll go on crossovers. Going active sounds intriguing but couldn't happen for some time due to the greater expense. However, I'm going to take Coytee's advice and spend some time researching this option. Even if I get upgraded passive crossovers now I could see myself eventually migrating to active. Larry

Coytee: Thanks for your response. I do have a couple of extra solid state amps I could use for the bass bins. If I recall correctly you utilize a Klipsch engineered and tested active crossover design for your two-way Jubiless. Does somebody have a similar ready-to-go design for a three-way Klipschorn? I have a Velodyne SMS-1 bass equalizer where I can adjust the low pass crossover frequncy, low pass slope, subsonic crossover, subsonic slope, phase delay (to align phasing with front speakers), level settings (to match level with front speakers), and parametric equalizer settings. I can then store up to five different settings each retrievable with a single button push. I was wondering if something similar was available for active crossovers. Larry

Randy:I considered the V-trac but it was a little out of my price range. I've considered the Universal networks as my speakers are only about ten feet away from the listening position. However, I do like to lean into the volume at times and my Klipschorns are part of a home theater system. I wonder if you had an active crossover if you could store different slopes for different types of listening. Larry

Beautiful guitar Bruce!

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I purchased a new set of Fastrac K horns to go into my 2010 Khorns. During the installation I did need to improvise as the 2010 top had is configured differently than the older Klipschorns. Because there wasn’t sufficient clearances to install the horn support as designed I ended up using the horn support on its side as a block of wood supporting the squared to round adapter at the end of the horn. It works and the horns look level. Initially I installed the horns on just the left speaker and played a mono record so that I could compare between the Fastrac K and K-401. Even with this older recording the difference between the two horns was apparent and discernible by both my wife and oldest daughter. Both described the sound as more open. At this point I felt the horn was a nice upgrade and worth the price though it didn’t seem to be an over the top change. As I went on to better recordings my ears settled in and the difference between the horns became much greater. The Fastrac Ks sound more rich and high end. They have an openness and ease to them that is hard to describe. When I played Norah Jones and Diana Krall I found both of their voices to sound much smoother. I found myself turning up the volume to enjoy the Khorns dynamics, something I avoided doing with the K-401s. All in all a great bang for the buck upgrade and highly recommended. I can’t ever see myself going back to the stock horns. I should mention that all this listening was done with the stock AK-5 crossovers. I had limited funds and had considered replacing the crossovers first but Al Klappenberger suggested I change the horn first even though the mix of the AK-5 and Fastrac K was as he described not ideal. Now I’m anxious to hear what the Alk crossovers sound like with this horn. I’ve got my eye on a set of AP12-350s and ES5800s. Looks like I’ll have to sell that old guitar I don’t play anymore.

I'm looking a building a set of false corners for my Klipschorns due to an open floor plan on one side of my family room and protruding window seals on the other. I've read about every false corner post and settled on a design that copies the Rudy81 design: two pieces of 3/4" plywood sandwiching 3/4" MDF screwed onto a 3/4" MDF floor. My concern is the length of the walls. In my email exchange with Klipsch they have made it quite clear that a 48" long internal wall is the bare minimum required to avoid deteriorating low and mid range frequency response. (Apparently the Dope from Hope article isn't accurate as it shows a 48" outside dimension implying a 42 3/4" internal wall based on the construction.) However, if my internal walls extend past 43" I'll begin blocking a recessed area reserved for a future built in entertainment center. While I understand that 48" will provide better performance I have no idea how much I will lose by giving up 5" Any experience with shorter walls? Update: I met with my cabinet maker and he says he can integrate the false corner extensions into the future built in cabinets so I guess my problem is solved. I'm going with the full 48" walls.

It appears that the special price is only on the Walnut version. All the other Klipschorns on Amazon are the regular $4000 each price. I checked and Amazon is an authorized dealer for Klipsch.

Check out the current sale by Amazon. Brand new Klipschorns in Walnut $1229 each and free shipping. Is this a mistake?

I don't think the JubeScala will have the same size of bass presentation of the Khorn because it's a smaller box as you note. I however, do personally think the midrange on up will best the Khorns 400/77 setup. Where are you located? Perhaps there is someone near enough to you, to allow you to be enticed to make a visit and give a listen. If you are anywhere near Knoxville (TN), I can set you up with a listen of the Jubilees/K402 (biamped with Crown K2's), stock LaScala (100% stock other than crossover upgraded to ALK ESN networks) or I can configure a JubeScala as well by moving one of my K402's around. You could hear a LaScala & JubeScala side by side or one of them next to the Jubilee (ok, maybe not so easy on that one since the Jubes are upstairs) Thank you for the generous offer. Unfortunately I'm in Northern California.

I appreciate everybody's responses. There seems to be a wealth of knowledge in this forum. I found the comment regarding the cheapo Emerson cd player interesting as many also seem to use a fairly cheap solid state amp (Crown XTi 1000) to drive the Jubescalas and Jubilees. On the other hand there are lots of suggestions to use tube amps with the Klipschorns. Perhaps the Jubes are less sensitive to electronics than the Klipschorns?

I've had a growing curiousity regarding Klipschorns for both music and home theater. The last time I heard a Klipsch speaker was when I heard a La Scala over 20 years ago (not counting my 2.1 Pro media). The other day I ventured into a store with a set of Klipschorns on display. The listening session was a bit of a love/hate relationship. I absolutely loved the huge dynamics. Music was weighty and effortless in a way I had never heard before. However, when the volume was turned up even moderately the top horns became excessively bright. The brightness wasn't subtle but was to the point that my daughter and wife started giving me strange faces. We tried several CDs and some were better than others. The listening room did seem small for the speakers. I would say about 16 feet square. The ceiling was about 8 feet and there was no treatments or even curtains of any kind. The Klipschorns were driven by a small Yamaha receiver and the CDs were played on a Sony blu-ray player. I suspect that the problem I heard was room based. The salesperson said he owned the Klipschorns as well as the La Scalas and they were less bright sounding in his home. He did suggest that these speakers be mixed with warm sounding sources and amps, preferrably tube amps. I currently own a Marantz AV8003 processor and an Outlaw 770 amp. Reading other posts it seems like these may be an Ok match. I really wanted to like these speakers (I had fond memories of the La Scala's dynamics) but now I'm not so sure. I've also read a lot about the Jubescalas with the 402 top horn. If these had the same big dynamics as the Klipschorn (not sure with the smaller La Scala bass bin) but were less bright maybe that would be a good way to go.

I have two DTS 10s but one would have been plenty. In fact if I had heard one before ordering the second I woudn't have ordered a second. There is no way I can use all this power as I'm already shaking the gutters and roof tiles. KdAgain isn't kidding about the potential for structural damage. Danley used four slightly less powerful subs to drive a five story Chicago IMAX. I ordered two because it was cheaper per sub to ship two and, like you, I wasn't sure one would be enough. I use a Velodyne SMS-1 to EQ the DTS 10s and cross my subs over at 80 Hz. After EQing the sound is very clean and powerful. I like KdAgain's idea of running the mains full range. My mains don't go that low but if they did I may have been able to get an even better frequency response. These subs are incredible compared to others I've heard (Submersives, JTR Captivators).

Hello, this is my first post in this forum. I own the DTS 20 and recently built two DTS 10s. The DTS 10 goes lower than the DTS 20 which falls off at about 19 Hz in my room. One DTS 10 has much more power reaches much lower than a DTS 20. In my 7000 cu ft room the DTS 20 would sometimes bottom out when driven hard. The DTS 10 has plenty of power and I could have probably got by with one but two do give me a more even frequency response. I'm selling the DTS 20 and keeping the two DTS 10s. Now that I have the subs covered I want to find speakers that can keep up although I need to wait a year or so to replenish the bank. That gives me time to learn. I 've listened to JTR 12LFs, Seaton's Catalysts and have considered Danley tops but they are all pricey. I'm intrigued by horns and I've been thinking about used La Scalas or Khorns. I remember hearing a pair of La Scalas over 20 years ago. The big dynamic sound I remember seems like it might work well for theater although I also like to listen to music. I don't have the budget or room for both a music system and home theater so I need one system that can do both.