Wuchak

Perhaps the pause is due to them needing to suck air back into the box as they return? Normally the passive would never move alone. It would always be moving in relation to the woofer which does not happen when you push on the passive alone.

I like the white lightening cables http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/whitelightning/moonshine.html. I just twist the black and white together for ground and use the green for positive. I don't get fancy with shring tubing and banana plugs. The original manual on the back of the Advents recommended using lamp cord.

Not sure on Pandora but I do listen to it a lot along with MOG. I think Pandora does a better job of creating a radio station based on an artist. MOG will create an artist station but it is all that artist instead of being other similar things that I might like. I've discovered and rediscovered lots of great music on Pandora. Which I then download on MOG. MOG has an amazing amount of small and up and coming still somewhat obscure groups. It's nice to see the lineups coming to my local venues and be able to check out their albums on MOG to see if I want to attend a show. I would not buy 10 cd's a month to check them out so I would miss out on some great shows.

I love MOG.I've been using it since November 2011. I run it on my Mac and on my Gen 4 iPod touch (downloads at 320k). I am often stunned at the depth of the catalogue.

No work needed on them. I will upgrade the crossovers and try the titanium diaphragms someday when I get the itch to change something in the system. They amount of sonic information they provide took a while to get used to coming from a more relaxed speaker. Like anything it took some adjustment on my part. A big part of that was to stop listening critically all the time for every last lip sound from the singer and just enjoy the music.

You have to buy one. You're in McIntosh country with both McIntosh headquarters and Audio Classics less than an hour away.[]

Nope. I scored them for $150 on CL last summer.

I have a water ring on top of one of my Chorus I's where a previous owner used it as a plant stand. Since they are in my den I don't worry about it and I put some knick-knacks on it. One of these day's I'm going to the local stone place and getting a couple of pieces of granite cut for the tops (they have left over pieces from countertops). I'll put some thin felt under them it and they will look sharp. Plus I can tell "audiophiles" that the weight of the stone helps cut down on cabinet resonance and sweetens the inner detail in the upper octaves and tightens up the bass. : ) I might even get a couple of larger matching slabs cut to set them on. The cheapest solution is a couple of doilies or decorative end table mats if doilies aren't your style.

When I first brough home my Chorus I's I had never listened to Klipsch before. I bought them because my Dad who lives out of state bought Forte II's and raved about them. I had to try horns. The Chorus I's were so revealing that it took me a while before I could listen to them for more than an hour. I would get a sonic hangover. I was running them with an Anthem Integrated 1 tube amp. The mids and highs were sweet but there was TMI. It was like when I first got a big screen TV and would get a headache for the first few weeks from watching it. I had to adjust. Now I can listen to them all day and bask in the glorious sound. I have also fine tuned their placement in the room to a 1/4 inch. It took a few weeks but it was worth the effort.

I like Papa was a Rolling Stone by The Temptations. It's well recorded and has that huge Motown sount. It's a complete test since it has a lot going on across all frequency ranges, it provides a mix from single singer to chorus, and it's a very dynamic track. It also has: - a killer bass line that is tight and deep. -horns, which really show off the ability of the system to make it sound like the instrument is in the room. -cool funky wah-wah guitar, which is always fun -great vocals with harmonies. If there is a weakness in your system this will reveal it. A Living Prayer - Alison Krauss. Her vocal performance on this stripped down track is stunning and well recorded. On a good system it will almost bring a tear to your eye.

Then you haven't tried it. The depth and breadth of the catalogue included in the monthly fee is impressive. I has everything from Megadeth to Gene Kruppa to Shel Silverstein to old radio shows.

Thanks for the comparison info!

I've got millions of songs. I subscribed to the MicroSoft Zune store. It's about $14 a month and you get unlimited streaming and downloads. So long as your license key is current anything you download will play. If you cancel for a while all the songs you downloaded stay on your machine and you can reactivate at any time. You also get to pick 10 songs per month to keep permanently so a key is no longer required to play them. I don't have a Zune player. I just like access to the huge library of music. It's amazing what they have and for less than the price of a single CD each month I'm happy with the price point. The Zune desktop software is not the best but it's decent. It took me a couple of hours to get really comfortable with it. I was ready to uninstall it during the first 15 minutes but I stuck it out and once I got used to it I kind of like it. They offer a free two week trial so you can check it out. The drm encrypted songs are at 192kbps with 2 pass cbr. The drm free mp3s are 2pass cbr at 320 kbps. I highly recommend taking the two week trial, just be prepared to spend a few hours learning the software.

Welcome to the Klipsch club! Interesting that you prefer the Chorus II to the Druids. I was all set to order a pair of the Zu Omens during the intro sale when I scored a pair of Chorus I's. They just keep growing on me. I've never had a chance to listen to any of the Zu speakers. What is the difference between the sound of the Druids and the Chorus II's?

I don't know of a dealer but I hope you find one.

Arash, Sadly I think you're out of luck. This thread is two years old. Besides which Iran is an ebargoed country for US goods. Sending them to you would result in $50,000 - $250,000 in fines plus up to 20 years in prison not only for the seller but anyone aiding, abetting, the sale. Simply discussing a way to ship them to you on this forum would be considered "conspiracy to violate" the embargo and could result in 20 years in prison and $1,000,000 in fines.

The next wonders? The article is from January 2001. What will work and sound great in a guitar amplifier where compression and distortion are desired will probably not sound good in a stereo amplifier. The article says, " The distortion is smoother and more even and the output is both substantially reduced and more compressed than stock due to the Class-A nature of the Yellow Jackets." You probably won't like that distortion when listening to music.

Check out the Music Hall A25.2. This was a Stereophile recommended component. It had an MSRP around $1000 and street price of $699. It has been replaced in their line with the A50.2 and Music Direct is selling their remaining stock of A25.2's at $350 which is a steal for this amp. http://www.musicdirect.com/product/88057 I was using one to drive my Chorus I's. It sounds better than my Anthem Integrated 1 tube amp with stock tubes. The MH is 50 watts vs. 25 watts in the Anthem. That extra power helps bring out the bass. With NOS tubes ($350) the Anthem edges it out in the mids and highs but the Music Hall has much better bass. For about $100 and 10 minutes work (just unplug the old and plug in the new, like swapping tubes) you can swap the opamps in the Music Hall to BurrBrown OPA-627s. With this mod I suspect the Music Hall will equal the NOS tubes. With the stock opamps the Music Hall was a little harsh in the high end at first. After about 50 hours it smoothed out and it was continueing to sound better and sweeter until I replaced it with an Aragon 4004 (huge tight bass with the Aragon, those 15" 4 ohm drivers in the Chorus need power to really come to life no matter what the Chorus sensitivity ratings suggest). Underwood Hi Fi offers a couple of serious upgrade packages for the Music Hall each with a different opamp. When I emailed them and asked about which to use Chris Johnson (founder and former President of Sonic Frontiers) said to go with the OPA-627. I suspect that you get 80% of the total benefit of the upgrade package just by swapping the opamps. http://www.underwoodhifi.com/mod_musichall.html Also check out the Music Hall trio. It gives you their CD player, amp, and tuner in one slick box. New they are about $800 which gives you a lot for the money but they can be found used in your price range. You can do the opamp swap in these too.

Search for "bass hit" on youtube. You'll find a bunch of songs from a collection of CD's called bass hit that were used in car audio competitions. Once you click on a link for one of the videos go to the address bar and enter "&fmt=18" without the quotes at the end of the address and hit enter to reload the page. That code gets you the high bit rate stereo sound if it's available. It's the only way to get it in youtube and if it was uploaded, which I think the Bass Hits are, it's a dramatic difference.

Audio Classics sells real wood cases for the McIntosh 4100 in your choice of several woods for $199 so you dress that one up like it should have been originally http://audioclassics.com/cat.php3?cat=Cabinets(near bottom of page)

I was so excited about the first link I never clicked the second one. Thank-you. I downloaded a copy of them all. I'll pass the Forte II one on to Dad. He'll be happy to read it. Cheers, Wuchak

Is there something like this for the Forte II's? My Dad has a pair and would enjoy seeing the brochure for them. Thanks Bill! That's better than what I was looking for! I was looking for the response graph. This has lots more info.

Thanks for the responses. I think I can arrange things to make them fit but probably not in corners due to the room setup. Tube amps are soon to be part of my past. I don't have the patience to deal with chasing down tube problems (Which tube is causing a hiss now?) nor do I like having to drop $300 - $500 for new tubes every year and half. I work from home most days so my system is up and running at least 12 hours per day. I swapped out my Anthem Integrated 1 tube amp for an Aragon 4004 and Onkyo Integra P-304 preamp which is a nice clean and ever so slightly warm combination. The extra power of the Aragon really brought out the bass in my Chorus. Those big woofers might put out sound at 2 watts but they want more to really shine. My other concern with the La Scala is the bass, or lack of it. The Chorus have acceptable bass but that is not their real strength. The La Scala seem to be downright lacking in bass going by the specs vs the Chorus. I'm also a bit worried about the increased sensitivity of the La Scala. I'm leaning towards giving them a try but they are a beast to move with that size and weight so I want to be pretty confident that they will stay before I go through the trouble. If I didn't love the Chorus I so much I'd already have the La Scalas here but for the first time I like my current system so well that I'm hesitant to change anything other than doing full Crites upgrades to the Chorus to refresh them. The ones I'm looking at are $600. They were repainted last year. I don't know if any other mods were done.The price is very fair but it's not so cheap that it's a just grab them and flip them if need be kind of deal. I have a feeling I'm going to have to try them. That lack of bass is really putting me off though and I don't want to build bass bins or any other such stuff. I just want to listen to music. I have enough other projects. I'll keep you posted as to what happens. Maybe what I need to do is go listen to them.I just emailed the seller to see if I can go check them out one night this week.

I was offered some La Scala's for a good price but I turned them down because I don't think my room is big enough for them. My room is about 10' wide x 15' long x 6.5' high. Due to the way the room is setup I would about 7 feet from the front of them at my listening position. My Chorus I's sound great in here but I think they are as big as I can go in this room. Thoughts?

Thanks CB. Sounds like a cheap, easy, and 100% reversible mod. What's not to like? I will have to give this a try.