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La scalas fronts herseys surrounds and 2 sets of RP-500SA (Atmos)
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Just now, Heritage_Head said:
Denon X3700H
Running 4.3.4
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1 hour ago, Emile said:
@Heritage_Head What AVR did you buy? You can probably run the LS's directly off that, then add a MiniDSP and a cheap d-class amp for the 510's - just to try it out
Denon X3700H
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So if I’m getting all this correctly I need a four channel amp (one channel for each 510/driver, and one each for the La scala bottoms)…I know next to nothing about active xos. What are the requirements?
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7 hours ago, MMurg said:
Now just get it over with and buy a pair of Axi2050. (I like to spend other people's money too. 😁 )
Lol….wow those are 1k each 🥹!
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Well I’ve taken the advice of the forum, and I bought a new AVR with pre outs 😊. So active it is!
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Unfortunately, 904s won’t fit in my new place.
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These are what I have now.
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14 minutes ago, Chief bonehead said:
You have a 904 lf and a 904 hf (510 horn, b&c de75/k 691 and bracket? Hmmm…..let me see.
I use to..I sold them when I sold my house. Now I have 1978 La Scala that im thinking of adding 510/de75 to . I have a line on buying 510/de75 drivers. I’m wondering what my options are in terms of a crossover that would work with them (passive if possible )…Thanks
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14 minutes ago, Emile said:
Have had 3 sets of 510's; 2 with mumps and 2 old ones. Never could hear any difference
I’m guessing its way beyond my old ears.
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I called them “Darth Vader 904s” 😊
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16 minutes ago, geoff. said:
...and that is where a good 2" full range driver and a pair of K-510s for a good price comes in to the mix
do the K-510s have the "mumps"?
I actually have a lot of experience with the 510 (The pic is my old set up). Those had mumps.
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13 minutes ago, geoff. said:
...and that is where a good 2" full range driver and a pair of K-510s for a good price comes in to the mix
do the K-510s have the "mumps"?
No there older
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Personally I don’t think I will ever stop tinkering no matter how happy I am with the set up…. It’s my favorite part of the hobby.
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Just now, Islander said:
Beware of the enablers! They lurk in many places in the Forum.
Might just be easier if I post my credit card number. 😂😂😂
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9 minutes ago, Islander said:
That won't get it done. If you're trying to put together something that will approximate the performance of Jubilees, then you need sources that are of the same calibre, meaning excellent power amps and a good preamp, and so on, including a pro processor, not a cheap one. It would be better to keep saving, putting aside whatever you can afford, and keep looking for bargains, until you have the budget to buy the right stuff. You can often save lots that way. You can wind up surprised at how much you've spent, and at the same time surprised at how much you've saved.
As much as I would love to get into the Jubilee level (yes please!). That was never really what my expectation was here. A nice upgrade over what I currently have. If that’s possible (with my budget and space).
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4 minutes ago, geoff. said:
In lieu of the last post by Islander, I guess a prudent question would be what is the ballpark on how much you are expecting to spend, all said and done?Horns, drivers, crossovers, shipping, and if you're really lucky, taxes.
Budget all done 1kish…I can get a pair of 510s with DE75s from a member on here for $400. That leaves about 600 for the rest.
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6 minutes ago, Islander said:
Well, it turned out to be more than I expected. This was back in 2008, when the OG or UG Jubilees were around only $7,000, with free delivery in the main 50 states. New, with warranty. Putting together a pair of JubScalas, when I already had the speakers and one amplifier, cost me somewhere around $4000-4500, buying used stuff, like the Dx-38 processor from a Guitar Center in California, the second amplifier from a Forum member in Seattle (I drove down there to hear it and pick it up), the K510 horns and K-69-A drivers from another Forum member, this one in Tennessee or somewhere around there. That was the original JubScala setup, with the speaker shown in the picture.
The upgrades came later, first the La Scala IIs, then the 402 horns. The K402 horns are huge, a full metre across. But I did eventually buy them, which meant a trip to the mainland, which costs $200-250, including gas and food, if you bring a friend.
The only drawback to the actual Jubilees was their size. They're 41 inches across, so I would've had to shift some stuff to fit them into my living room, but it probably would have been the better value, especially if I was starting from scratch, with no La Scalas. Of course, now I've upgraded to La Scala IIs, and K402 horns with K691 drivers. At this point, I've got several tens of thousands into the system, but on the other hand, by buying used, I saved many tens of thousands. There are lots of enablers on this forum, and I'm sometimes one of them. It's fun to see everybody's systems develop, but that's not for everybody.
I started this message a day ago, but then I headed over to the nearest A/V shop for an event day, when some of the company reps were there. I've met the Audio quest guy and the Yamaha guy couple of times, and even Vince Bruzzese from Totem speakers was there.
Anyway, I hope this info is helpful. Let me know if you have any questions.
If only I had the space, and the money… Some day maybe 🤞
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3 minutes ago, Heritage_Head said:
Lol…. Just looking for suggestions (not a cure for cancer) 😊.
In seriousness you guys have been super helpful, and I know you’ve given me the answer already. I’m not ignoring that. Im trying to find a cheaper alternative (if there even is one).
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5 minutes ago, Coytee said:
I don't mean to speak for him, he'll remind me of when I was groveling like a lap-dog to buy some Undergrounders....
That said, I'd speculate his thoughts are
"The passive is already out there.....been there, done that... if you choose to utilize a different driver than the one diagramed, that's on you.... what do you expect me to do.... anytime someone wants to do this, drop what I'm doing (undoubtedly looking at dirty curves) and obtain their driver of choice and figure it out for them? Nope.... that's it.... give me either 30 laps around the building OR, 30 minutes of listening to Marie singing Paper Roses.....
Now, that puppy yapping dude Coytee... lemme tell you, he's got it on and knows it all.... yeah, just like a puppy knows where to go pee when you first bring him home.... if not on your favorite rug or furniture.... possibly on your leg. Gotta watch-out for dudes that slobber over underground speakers. Someone bi*** slap him for me.
He does however, know how to send a nice set of bbq ribs and home grown blueberries....."
Yeah, Roy may not be saying the above out loud, but it's probably floating in the back of his head, right behind some of those 'dirty curves' he's seen over his career.
You do this..... you go home, ask your wife if you can discuss "dirty curves" with a bunch of dudes..... you see how long it is before you get served by her attorney. That Roy knows how to walk a fine line.
Lol…. Just looking for suggestions (not a cure for cancer) 😊.
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On 11/4/2022 at 7:45 PM, Chief bonehead said:
Thank you
Roy do you have any advice on a passive crossover solution?
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9 minutes ago, Emile said:
Thanks for the link!
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1 minute ago, Emile said:
Pretty sure you can use the zone-2 preouts as an input to a DSP. Then feed the "processed signal" into another amp. Even a cheap Chinese class D amp will do
You are correct that zone two is technically a pre-out (for like a tape out), but wouldn’t that be a full signal and not just left and right front in a 5.1 (for example)?
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510 on top of the La Scala help dialing this in
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How about using an AVR that can bi amp (in place of a four or five ch amp)?