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they were working beautifully together for months (RF7s, RC7, RS7's,RF3's center surround), then I moved all my gear from a wood shelf to a Boltz steel shelf and suddenly I am in buzz and hum hell. One thing I do notice is that when I remove the subwoofer cable (in parallel mode)the Samson buzz goes away. Is this a sign that the supplied connector or monster m-series cable has gone bad? I know a significant part of the problem was the position of my rptv (proscan), so it has been moved further away from the amps and speaker cables, eliminating that element. Now the biggest buzz is the Samson, and the Cinepro 3k6SEI (375 watts x6)to a much less degree. Is there any solution short of heavy handed filters that seriously effect the quality of sound coming through my speakers? I am using my Denon 5800 as the pre-pro, and added a monster HTS 3500 surge protector, but disconnected it when it seemed to actually increase the noise level. Help????

Loved my super bit dvd's coming through my denon 5800's seven amps, but yesterday when the new cinepro amp (375x6)arrived and i played the same dvd's...wow! it is true, you can never have too much clean power and headroom. there is so much going on audio-wise in the Fifth Element and Air Force one that was missing before, that it's almost a revelation. When the helicopter brings the VP to the White House lawn and the two White House assistants run to meet the chopper, their dialogue is usually blurred by the sound of the helicopter, unless you really artifically boost the center channel. but when you've got 1000 watts dedicated to the center channel alone, the dialogue actually can be heard at the zero setting (and yes, they are discussing the merits of African vs European Sparrows & coconut weight ratios). And then there's the little blue light...oh my. Played SPR at the normal Denon setting of -19db's, and I think I damaged my hearing. Gotta' drop in Independance Day and see if I can become totally deaf. Johnny M, I can't believe I paid money for this! Hope to view and hear all of TPM tonight. Equipment List: -Denon 5800 (as pre-pro with two amps used for ctr back spkrs) -Cinepro 3k6SE I (375x6) driving five main spkrs. -Sony S7700 DVD Player -Pioneer 606 DD/DTS LD -Klipsch RF7 speakers -Klipsch RC7 speaker -Klipsch RS7 surrounds -Klipsch RF3 pair for center back speakers -SVS 16/46c subs & amp -Proscan 60-inch rptv -Monster Z-2 speaker cables -Monster M-series sub cables -Monster Z-series interconnects -Monster M-series interconnects -Directv (with nfl package!) -RCA AC/3 satellite receiver. life is good... We are the Borg...

I'm converting and drywalling off an approx 13.5 wide x 24 feet long, section of my basement to a dedicated HT, and was wondering if it is possible to hang my RF3's (used as surround back spkrs) about seven feet up, like i plan to do with my RS7 surrounds? Are the RF3's too heavy, etc? the front spkrs are RF7's and an RC7, all powered by a Denon 5800. Also, any suggestions on sound absorbent material for the drywall and any carpeting suggestions are greatly appreciated. thanks.

I'm about to venture into the basement-to-HT world, and have a space of approximately 13-feet wide by 25-feet long. What should I do about the sound dampening, cover the dry wall with carpet, curtains, or what? Same question for the floors. Also, I am using my RF3's as back surrounds, and would like to know if it is okay to elevate them up off the floor to a matching height with my surrounds (RS7's), to a height of about six or seven feet. Front speakers are RF7's and RC7, all powered by a Denon 5800. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated on any and all aspects of this expensive venture. Thanks. we are the borg...

I'm about to venture into the basement-to-HT world, and have a space of approximately 13-feet wide by 25-feet long. What should I do about the sound dampening, cover the dry wall with carpet, curtains, or what? Same question for the floors. Also, I am using my RF3's as back surrounds, and would like to know if it is okay to elevate them up off the floor to a matching height with my surrounds (RS7's), to a height of about six or seven feet. Front speakers are RF7's and RC7, all powered by a Denon 5800. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated on any and all aspects of this expensive venture. Thanks. we are the borg...

Anubis...welcome to the world of the 7-Series. I also have the entire 7 setup, the Denon 5800, twin SVS 16-46pc subs, proscan 60-inch rptv, sony S7700 DVD, Pioneer 606 dd/dts LD Player; the front speakers are connected by Monster Z-2 Series cables, and all the components are running on Monster Z-3 and M-Series speakers. Life is good! One question...are you running all your speakers on the Large setting? We are teh borg...

Is this an okay option with these speakers (RF, RC, and RS-7s)? My receiver is a Denon 5800, and I think I remember a Denon tech saying setting the speakers to large on this particular unit had zero effect on the LFE signal to the subs. My subs are two SVS 16/46c units and the change doesn't seem to have affected their performance. My main concern is whether the Series 7's woofers can keep up with the SVS' and not muddle the very sharp, defined, bass put out by the subs. Help!!! we are the borg...

cable counts...but...the tech's at Monster Cable told me not to waste money on z-series cable for surrounds and back surround speakers, even though my RS7's are internally wired with z-series cable. i was told to z-up the fronts and subs, but any of the Monster XPHP speaker cable is all that is needed for any rear action, especially if the surrounds are over 12 feet away. having said that, i must tell you that as important as the cables are, it's the speakers that make all the difference in the world. when i replaced my Klipsch KSF5's with RS7 surrounds (i continued using my old Monster THX rated HP Flat White Cable) and went from playing the KSF5 surrounds at +6, +8, to now playing the RS7's at a flat 0 (zero) setting, and i'm actually getting so much surround sound that its sometimes annoying. my RF & RC7's are also set to zero, and when i put my old RF3's in the back surround position, i have to boost them to +4, +5, just to be in the ballgame (to be heard). use banana clips at each connection point and you will be "happy & not snappy". we are the borg... system: -Denon 5800 -Sony S7700 DVD -Pioneer 606/dts/dd LD -Proscan 60-inch rptv -SVS 16/46 twin subs w/Samson 700 watt amp -Klipsch RF, RC, RS7 speakers -Klipsch RF3's in back surround position -JVC S-VCR -Directv satellite system (AC3) -Monster Z-series speaker cables -Monster Z-series & M-series interconnects

I currently have the Denon 5800 which is no slouch in the power department at 170x7 (or is it x8?). Anyway, I am running all new 7-series speakers (RF, RC, RS, plus RF3s), and keep hearing how much difference seperates make and am considering using the Denon as a Pre-Amp/Receiver and adding the Cinepro 3kll(?) that kick out 375x6. My question, is this more power than is necessary for my speaker setup which is mostly used for HT and very little for music. Help!!! We are the Borg...

RS-3's won't match up with the RF-7's. I had KSF5's which are somewhat similiar, running with RF3's & RC3 until recently when I updated to a complete RF-7, RC-7, RS7 system. The RF7's will completely overpower the RS3's to the point where you will have your receiver pushing the surrounds at more than +6db just to be heard. Buy the RS7's. Those speakers are so efficient that you will hear things never heard before and at 0db!! With my current system, I am running my old RF3's as the pair of back surrounds, and they have to be boosted to +5db's just to be heard while running the RF7, RC7, and RS7's at 0db!! I'm getting full, "full" surround sound output at volumes as low as -40db to -47db! Unheard of performance! My system: -Denon 5800 -Sony S7700 DVD -Pioneer 606/dts/dd LD -SVS 16/46c subs (with Samson 700 amp) -Klipsch RF7's -Klipsch RC7 -Klipsch RS7's -Klipsch RF3's (surround back pair) -Proscan 60-inch rptv -JVC S-Vcr -Monster Z2 wiring for the three front speakers. -Monster THX rated wire for surround speakers -All Interconnects are Monster Z3 & M-Series cables

your setup looks great. In fact, the spacing looks almost to the footage what my little corner of the basement occupies. my question, did you do all the work yourself, or did you contract it out. i am not a handyman type and am looking into having a similar setup installed in my home. Good viewing and listening. my gear: -DENON 5800 -KLIPSCH RF-7'S -KLIPSCH RC-7 -KLIPSCH RS-7'S -KLIPSCH RF-3's (back surrounds) -SVS 16-46 SUBWOOFERS -PIONEER 606 DD/DTS LD PLAYER -SONY DVD PLAYER -PROSCAN 60-INCH RPTV -DIRECTV SATELLITE SYSTEM -MONSTER Z-2 SERIES SPEAKER CABLES -MONSTER Z-2 & M-SERIES INTERCONNECTS

well, actually they're in the basement. Got them in yesterday. There was damage to one RF-7 grille (looks like the speaker may have tipped over during transit), but the online vendor said not to worry, he's putting a new grille in the mail. First off, these mutha's are big! I thought my SVS subs were huge, but these humpers (all of them) were raised on steriods. Also, the texture of the metallic woofers seems to be totally different than those on the RF3 series. As soon as they were out of the boxes, I removed my KSF-5 surrounds and installed the RS7's (big; did I say "big") and connected them with Monster HT THX rated cable (gotta' figure a way to bi-wire to my Denon 5800). I removed the RC-3 and replaced it with the RC-7. I hope anyone who buys this speaker, has a wi-i-i-ide shelf space on top of their TV, because you're going to need the room (did I say big already?). One puzzling thing, the two holes on the bottom for elevating the speaker did not have threads inside for the two long screws provided (I assume the screws just fit inside and the adjustment is made by moving the nut up and down the bolt). Now it was time to wrestle those 90 pound RF-7's out of the boxes and replace the trusty RF-3's. Fortunately for me, the much larger RF-7's did not cause too much of a problem when it came to positioning them, but this could be a major league problem for anyone dealing with a severly restricted amount of space. I wired up the RF-7's and RC-7 with Monster Z-2 cable, removed my Heresys from the back surround position and placed the RF-3's in the back surround post. Time to test them, first without my SVS subs. I insert a DTS audio sample disk: Lyle Lovett, loved it; Boyz to Men sound almost as good as the original Temptations; They Can't Take That Away From Me, gorgeous. In stereo mode, the RF-7's are much warmer and less bright than the RF-3's. Suprisingly, they are also much more efficient than the RF-3's and presented a wide sound stage with the vocalist (in this case Sinatra) dead center stage. In fact, I had to get up and go put my ear to the RC7 to make sure it wasn't putting out all that beautiful vocal placement. At loud volumes the speakers asked for more without distortion. In 5 and 7.1 mode, the sound was totally enveloping. I was really emersed into the sound of the music (Mars). My old KSF-5's, as good as they are, had to be boosted to +5 to +7db's to keep up with the RF-3's, but the RS-7's present a big, prominent footprint at ZERO db! I mean the sound is sweet, warm (for Klipsch)and very wide, while at the same time being very directed in its dispersion pattern. These wonderful speakers don't need any help and so I set each channel on the receiver at zero. Now for the movies. Trust me people, there are things in Gladiator DTS ES, and the DTS sample disk #3 & 4 that you have "never", ever heard. And once you include the SVS subs, wow! In fact, I hadn't planned to watch Gladiator beyond the opening battle sequence, but the sound was so overwhelmingly good that I actually watched the whole movie...again! I almost took the day off today to just listen and marvel at these monsters (pun intended since the Monster Z-cable wiring must be contributing to the sound). Tonight it's X-Men, On Any Given Sunday, and the startup of the Shelby Mustang in Gone in 60-Seconds, plus some music selections provided by Directv. Tomorrow, LD time! Friday, Saving Prvt. Ryan and The Matrix. Saturday...JFK (5.1)...Sunday, The Haunting DTS ES... We are the borg...

well, actually they're in the basement. Got them in yesterday. There was damage to one RF-7 grille (looks like the speaker may have tipped over during transit), but the online vendor said not to worry, he's putting a new grille in the mail. First off, these mutha's are big! I thought my SVS subs were huge, but these humpers (all of them) were raised on steriods. Also, the texture of the metallic woofers seems to be totally different than those on the RF3 series. As soon as they were out of the boxes, I removed my KSF-5 surrounds and installed the RS7's (big; did I say "big") and connected them with Monster HT THX rated cable (gotta' figure a way to bi-wire to my Denon 5800). I removed the RC-3 and replaced it with the RC-7. I hope anyone who buys this speaker, has a wi-i-i-ide shelf space on top of their TV, because you're going to need the room (did I say big already?). One puzzling thing, the two holes on the bottom for elevating the speaker did not have threads inside for the two long screws provided (I assume the screws just fit inside and the adjustment is made by moving the nut up and down the bolt). Now it was time to wrestle those 90 pound RF-7's out of the boxes and replace the trusty RF-3's. Fortunately for me, the much larger RF-7's did not cause too much of a problem when it came to positioning them, but this could be a major league problem for anyone dealing with a severly restricted amount of space. I wired up the RF-7's and RC-7 with Monster Z-2 cable, removed my Heresys from the back surround position and placed the RF-3's in the back surround post. Time to test them, first without my SVS subs. I insert a DTS audio sample disk: Lyle Lovett, loved it; Boyz to Men sound almost as good as the original Temptations; They Can't Take That Away From Me, gorgeous. In stereo mode, the RF-7's are much warmer and less bright than the RF-3's. Suprisingly, they are also much more efficient than the RF-3's and presented a wide sound stage with the vocalist (in this case Sinatra) dead center stage. In fact, I had to get up and go put my ear to the RC7 to make sure it wasn't putting out all that beautiful vocal placement. At loud volumes the speakers asked for more without distortion. In 5 and 7.1 mode, the sound was totally enveloping. I was really emersed into the sound of the music (Mars). My old KSF-5's, as good as they are, had to be boosted to +5 to +7db's to keep up with the RF-3's, but the RS-7's present a big, prominent footprint at ZERO db! I mean the sound is sweet, warm (for Klipsch)and very wide, while at the same time being very directed in its dispersion pattern. These wonderful speakers don't need any help and so I set each channel on the receiver at zero. Now for the movies. Trust me people, there are things in Gladiator DTS ES, and the DTS sample disk #3 & 4 that you have "never", ever heard. And once you include the SVS subs, wow! In fact, I hadn't planned to watch Gladiator beyond the opening battle sequence, but the sound was so overwhelmingly good that I actually watched the whole movie...again! I almost took the day off today to just listen and marvel at these monsters (pun intended since the Monster Z-cable wiring must be contributing to the sound). Tonight it's X-Men, On Any Given Sunday, and the startup of the Shelby Mustang in Gone in 60-Seconds, plus some music selections provided by Directv. Tomorrow, LD time! Friday, Saving Prvt. Ryan and The Matrix. Saturday...JFK (5.1)...Sunday, The Haunting DTS ES... We are the borg...

go for either the Z or M series bass cable. Yes...it does make a "big" difference and you will never need to upgrade.

Jo Jo...give SVS subwoofers a try. i promise you, there will be no going back to boxes and cubes. those modestly priced tube shaped subs go so-o-o-o-o deep, I'm talking below 15hz to dig out all the signal in movies and music. I made the change from a Klipsch ksw-300, which i loved, and i have zero regrets. i am hearing and feeling "new" bass from my dvd's and LD's, and all i can say is... resistance is futile. we are the borg...

Jo-Jo...add three-hundred and ninety-nine dollars and www.sounddistributors.com will ship you a pair of new RF-7's! we are the borg...

read it and weep. that's the price for the entire package of speakers delivered in the black finish from sounddistributors.com. they are very highly rated consumer-wise. i purchased my Denon 5800 and Klipsch RC3 from them last year, no problems. Now all I have to do is sneak them past my wife (there are rare occasions when single is better). we are the borg...

I'm ordering the entire RF7 surround setup...but...I need to know if I play my current RF3's as my Center Back Surrounds, will they clash in this setup? My receiver is the Denon 5800, and I am currently using my Heresy I's in that position and plan to move them to the "A" speaker position or music only position. The current KSF5 surrounds will be replaced by the new RS7's, and my RC3 will be replaced by the RC7. Can this matchup work, and if so, what kind of sound dispersion can I expect from the RF3's (both) in the Back Center position. Advice needed asap! Thanks.

the RS7's are online for sale at $599.00; RF7's for $1399.00.

Just saw RF-7's for $1399.00 per pair, and RS-7's for $599.00 at the same online retailer that sold me my RC-3 and my Denon 5800. They deliver and stand by the warranty! No RC-7 was posted. I am hesitating to name the retailer until I order my RF7's & RS7's. Sorry about that, but all's fair in love and war. I'm ordering the black ones, the wood cabinets don't look "all that", if you know what I mean. We are the borg...

will this work? I currently have KSF5 surrounds, plus a set of original Heresys at the back surround position. I'm considering purchasing the new series RF7's for the FL, FR, FC positions, all powered by a Denon 5800. I also have a C6 resting in my closet. Is it good for anything in this setup? Will the RF-3's give as much sound dispersion as the KSF5's? Help!!!

Married life has its moments. Well, I sneaked them in, but I could not hide the boxes. Women...can't live with 'em, yada, yada..." I told her they are two giant humidifiers. Anyway, the two EXTREMELY BIG 16-46CS subs arrived three weeks after placing the order, and I hooked them up last night. First off, damage. The strips of black latex that encircle the bottom of both subs are partially unraveled. I assume this can be fixed using super glue. After unhooking the trusty ole' klipsch ksw300 and unceremoniously shoving it out of its corner, I managed to maneuver the subs into a position so that they both shared the same corner. Everything was included in the packaging, including the RCA adapter for my Monster M-series sub cable, which I ran from my Denon 5800 receiver to the Samson Amp. Yikes! I need more cables! A quick dash to the nearest Best Buys and the purchase of a pair of Monster Z1 series cables (oh, my. Is that Ben Hur on the shelf? Gotta' have it!). I connect the cables and insert the RCA adapter into the channel port #1. I turn on the Samson amp, the Denon, Sony S7700 DVD player, and my 60-inch proscan rptv. I set the sub level at the recommended +6db setting. I then put on dts sampler #4, SPR scene, crank up the receiver volume to -19db...and...nothing! Oh no, I'm thinking, I'm headed for the same problems as some of the other guys on the htf thread! (pregnant pause). Wait a minute! Did I turn the volume up on the Samson as recommended? No! What a concept! You actually have to turn the volume thingy up to get some boom thingy's from the big cylinder thingy's! I knew that. So, I turn both volume dials all the way to the right, as recommended, for maximum output. Problem solved. Now I start the DVD. Good God! I'm gonna' be deaf! Who the hell plays these things at that volume level? I lowered the receiver's .1-lfe level to +4, and both volume levels on the Samson to the -10db (two-thirds of the way to the max position), hit the play button on the remote and...nirvana. I can die in peace now. I have heard the lowest of the low. The truth is not out there anymore, it's in my basement. These two humidifiers are incredible. The resonant boomness of the klipsch sub is gone. And as good as the klipsch is, I am hearing and physically experiencing bass like never before (except in studio lot theaters). The Haunting excerpt on the sampler is truely frightening, and I was concerned my neighbors might hear this even from underground (don't want to make a bad impression, since I recently relocated to Maryland). On the dts sampler music video "Pretty Woman"...'dem footpeddles, 'dem footpeddles." Now put in the DD Sampler. Wow! That train just ran through my house! Even with all the clean bass, there was no discernable pressure on my eardrums. All those SPL meters and gages, I don't know from, but, I've been a producer/director/writer for a long time, and every week I spend a lot of time in edit bays and post houses, and I do know when it sounds "right". SVS sounds "right". Another DTS Sampler: Titanic...that iceberg ripped my screen and ceiling apart, and when that ship broke in half, it resonated like I was watching it in the Zanuck Theater on the 20th Century lot. Incredible! "Daylight", the tunnel scenes were so scary and realistic (being a Vietnam Vet, I know what explosions sound like), I had to play the sampler again. I don't have a big space to play around with, but these subs are very manageable. Bye bye boom...hello dts theater sound. Now, all the SVS humidifiers have to do is...clean the air. We are the borg...

Funny you should mention Heresys. I purchased a pair back in 1980, and recently dragged them out of the closet to play in the surround back position on my Denon 5800. The Heresy's are flanked by KSF5 surrounds. Up front are RF-3's, a C3 (replaced my C6 which now decorates a basement corner), and a ksw300 sub, which may be replaced by one of the klipsch new subs later this year. Anyway, the Heresy's are beautiful in the rear position. The only problem, they are so efficent, I had to increase the output to the KSF5's and lower the output to the Heresy's, so the surrounds could be heard. Set it up and play the dts-es version of The Haunting, Pretty Woman live performance from the dts #4 demo disk, or for that matter, damn near anything. And you will be blown away. Glad I kept those speakers...now what do I do with that c6? we are the borg...