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I'm glad they will now be getting some use; they are too nice of a speaker to be sitting in storage... Enjoy them! Cheers Deene

Hi all, I found a local forum member who was interested; he came over yesterday morning listened to them for a few minutes playing some 24bit 96khz tracks via the very excellent Bryston DAC and he was hooked and agreed to buy them! I'm very happy to find a seller who is local for pickup and also a forum member. He will be very happy with these speakers. Yes, for $1500 pickup, I'm surprised they sat for so long. They are an amazing pair of speakers for that price.... Cheers

Yes; I would like to sell these big guys! Not that there hasn't been lots of interest (none local though...) at the current price, but how about I drop the price down to $1600 to make it more tempting yet for someone to take a nice spring drive into MA to pick them up. That is a nice price for a great pair of CWIIIs with very little use on them...

I'd bet if someone put in a message in lounge, there might be someone who can locate it. Yea, the vault does exist. I contacted member rpampt who is in possession of it: "I do indeed have the vault stored in a shed here in IN....". The vault would have to be shipped to MA, and then shipped to the buyer, and then shipped back to Rick so it not really feasible with the speakers originating from MA. FedEx freight offers great rates assuming each speaker is put on its own pallet (~$180 shipped to IN), but that doesn't count getting a box large enough to hold them and getting them strapped to the pallet, and getting the pallets delivered to the FedEx freight depot (which is only 1 mile away on my side at least). The only box I have found that is large enough is 40x30x30 at ULINE.com and must be purchased in a group of 5 for $75 and then they only ship them Freight which is another $75 For someone really keen on shipping them, these look like an interesting option: http://boston.craigs...4382953950.html, they would remove the requirement for a pallet and box. Still, pick in MA or me driving a couple hours to meet is certainly the easiest assuming the buyer isn't coming too far. These speakers are just so big! I guess I should have better thought about their size before buying them. They were just too cool though to pass up on, and I always wanted a pair of a larger Heritage series model. I certainly wasn't disappointed in their sound quality!

Lots of interest, but shipping these beasts is turning out not to be feasible based on cost I'm willing to drive them a couple hours from Worcester MA (e.g. ~Albany NY, ~Hartford CT, etc...) to make things easier...

I just changed the price to $1700; I want some room back in my audio/video room....

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More pictures; left speaker Most of the marks/dings are at the edges of the front trim, do to moving them around.

Reluctantly selling my pair of Cornwall IIIs. I'm the second owner and have had them sitting idle for about a year; I maybe have 30 hrs on them. The original owner had them less than one year as they ended up being too large for his room. I purchased them to use in an audio/video room I was working on in my basement, but I find them too large as well and have decided to go with a much smaller footprint Revel F52. I'm very impressed with these and think they are excellent for the $$ and would love to keep them if my wife will let me put them upstairs, but she will not. I'm using a Bryston DAC and Sim Audio integrated and they sound very very good. I tried them for a short while with a PrimaLuna tube amp and that sounded great too, but I missed the drive and detail I got with good solid state stuff. Great bass and super fast dynamics with a very detailed sound. They are a bit more forward than my Revels but with them toed in to the center I don't find them bright. I do not have the boxes so pickup in central MA is needed, or else the buyer can pay for professional freight shipping for them. The speakers mechanically are like new; each speaker has a few small dings mostly around the front trim from moving them around. The sides and tops are excellent. If you are interested email me and I can send you more detailed pictures. Selling price: $1600 Cheers

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Selling my Prologue 1 Integrated. I'm the 2nd owner, the original owner put ~100hrs on it and upgraded the two 12ax7s with Ei ECC83s. It comes with the manual (printed from website), PrimaLuna double box (a Prologue Premium box), and the white glove. I've put < 50hrs on it. I purchased a used pair of Cornwall IIIs and got this amp to use for the big Cornwalls. I ended up losing my space for the speakers and have put them in storage until more room opens up in our house someday. I figure I might as well sell this amp since I now have no immediate need for it. I really like this amp matched with the Cornwall; this is a great tube amp for the $$. It will NOT ship with a power cord. I switched a generic power cord I was using it with for a Pangea AC9 and the difference in punch was amazing, it sounded like a much more powerful amp so I would highly recommend you mate it with a high current cord to really get the most out of it. Asking $800; Buyer to pay shipping (or pickup from central MA) and any PayPal fees. Thanks.

I actually have an older but decent Infinity IL-120 sub. I plan to use it for now. I would like to get a HSU VTF-15H sub but I cannot justify it at this time. I still need to buy a projector screen, although so far movies have looked great on my gray wall.

I game Mike a call and told him my story and he thought the RC-64II would be overkill for both my room and the RB-81IIs. So I went with the 62 along with the 81s and 52s. They should arrive next week. I was very happy with his prices... It's taken a while to get this room and setup together so I will be looking forward to my first movie [] I still need to buy a screen but I painted my front wall gray and I must say projecting directly on the wall looks great and will suffice until I can find (e.g. pay for) a screen... Cheers

Thanks everyone for all of the suggestions. On eBay I've noticed you can get a Refurbished RC-64II for $900 or a Open Box RC-62II for $400. Being this 5 channel system will only be used for movies and my room is pretty tight with the other stuff I have in there I'm guessing I'll not likely upgrade the RB-81IIs to anything larger. My gut is saying save the extra $500... If I could see myself upgrading the Fronts to something larger than I definitely think the RC-64IIs would be the way to go. I'll try to get a price for the complete 5 speaker set with each center and see if buying in a complete set will shrink the difference in the center at all. I'm guessing they don' thave much room to move on these open box/refurbished pieces. I'll let you know what I end up doing. I just got my projector mounted last night and I have a Emotiva UMC-1 and NAD 5 channel amp all setup, so I'm only missing the 5 speakers to start enjoying home movies.

Has anyone tried wood bases for the Cornwall IIIs? I have my speakers sitting on carpet and I wonder if they may not perform better if I could place them on wooden bases to better de-couple them from the floor. Mapleshade (http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Speaker-Stands/departments/60/) offer some nice walnut ones but they are not cheap. I was just curious if anyone has tried something similar and if there was any sonic improvement (e.g. maybe tighter bass or better imaging, etc...)

I'm planning on building a 5 channel system (my room is 11.5X17) for movies using RB-81IIs as the fronts and RS-52IIs as the surrounds. For the center I'm thinking of either: 1) RB-81II 2) RC-62II 3) RC-64II Does anyone have any idea how 3 RB-81IIs across the front will compare to using the RC-62II? Being the tweeter is different than the one used in the RB-81II, I'm assuming the RC-64II would be a better match for the RF-7II but does anyone have experience with mating it with the RB-81II?? Plus, would it be overkill for my smaller room? I know the center channel carries a lot of the 5.1 sound which is why I wouldn't mind spending a bit more for the center compared to the fronts/surrounds. Thanks!

I've heard from someone that the Wyred 4 Sound amps are a nice match with the Cornwalls. I do really like the Tube midrange though. Maybe a W4S amp with a tubed DAC/Preamp (e.g. a Peachtree model) would be a nice combo...

Yes, my PrimaLuna does have 4 and 8 ohm taps. I've been using the 8s as I was thinking the CWIIIs impedance was 8 ohms. I never thought to try the 4 ohm taps. I'll try it out this week and see if I notice any difference. I may have incorrectly assumed the high efficiency of the speakers implied the bass driver was an easy load. Thanks.

I just recently purchased a used pair of Cornwall IIIs and over the last week or so have tried them with both a solid state amp and a tube setup. For tubes I tried them with a PrimaLuna One integrated amp and for solid state I have a ModWright amplifier and Belles (does have two tubes) preamp. The much cheaper PrimaLuna is dead quiet and sounds great with the big CWIIIs. I was dissapointed that the ModWright amp was noisy through the CWIIIs. There is a very audible hum through each speaker, even with no cables plugged into the amplifier. It does have a ground switch and playing with it made the hum worse. Sound wise the solid state amp with the tube preamp sounded good, a little leaner than the PrimaLuna amplifier but certainly not edgy or harsh. The Belles preamp adds a nice warm sound and the ModWright is known to have a 'tube like' sound. The solid state amp had better bass and more speed, but I still liked the midrange better with the PrimaLuna. Considering the PrimaLuna costs ~1/3 the cost of the ModWright+Belles combo I am very happy with it. I don't think I can use the Klipsch with the ModWright as the hum is too distracting plus shutting off the amplifier is sometimes pretty loud too through the speakers. Just curious, what solid state amplifiers are others using with the big Heritage models that they are very happy with? From the tube side, any suggestions for integrated amps that still have that EL34 magic midrange but offer a little tighter bottom end? I was thinking that maybe the PrimaLuna Dialogue models or a Rogue Audio Chronus might have more bass control. I'm in no hurry to upgrade though for now. My other pair of speakers are Revel F52s which are pretty different from the Cornwalls, and both have their strengths and weaknesses, but overall I'm very impressed with the performance of the CWIIIs when you factor in their price and ability to sound good with relatively cheap amplification. Thanks

I really like these guys too; even though I own a few of their CDs I only really listen to The Trinity Session however... They would be great to see live. I checked out their website (http://latentrecordings.com/cowboyjunkies/tour/) and they list the remaining tour dates. I live in MA so the closest for me would be Plymouth NH in Aug. Lots of Canadian shows though!

That is a good point. Being I have 4 of 5 now that will sound really good together buying another 5 smaller speakers likely isn't the smartest choice. My wife is already on me some about the size of the Cornwalls though so I can only imagine what she would say about 3 of them across the front. But a Heresy III wouldn't be too bad size wise (or cost wise) as a center and that should be a perfect timbre match.

I've considered using a Forte II on its side as a center channel. Is there any negatives in sound (e.g. size of sweet spot, image size/depth/quality) to putting the horns on their sides?? Thanks Deene

Regarding the screen, no it isn't acoustically transparent. That is part of my issue of trying to cram so many speakers into the small room is that everything will have to fit around the screen. At least the Cornwall's are not that tall. I plan to have around 40 to 44" between the bottom of the screen and the floor.

Yea, a speaker switch box might be a way to go; I think Bryston make a nice one. I was thinking that even if my Tube Integrated has a home theater bypass which it does not, then I would have to use the Tubes to drive the LR while watching movies which isn't ideal. A switch box would allow me to completely separate the two uses. Thanks

Hi, I just recently entered the Klipsch world by purchasing a used pair of Cornwall IIIs (Audiogon) and a pair of Forte IIs (Craigs List). We are currently building a room in our basement for audio/video and I've yet to be able to use the CWIIIs and I've only played maybe an hour of music through the Fortes. I plan to setup two systems in the room where one is stereo only and one is a 5.1 system. I'm guessing I'll likely sell the Fortes eventually, but I purchased them at a good price and liked them with just a little listening and then jumped on the CWIIIs. My tentative plan is to buy a pair of RB-81IIs for the fronts (possibly sit them on the CWIIIs), a RC-62II center, and a pair of either RB-51IIs or RS-51IIs for the surrounds. My room is only 11.5x17 with the speakers (and screen) being on the 11.5 wide wall. I have a PrimaLuna One integrated that I was going to use with the CWIIIs and then I plan to buy a receiver or cheaper amp+processor combo for the 5.1. But now I wondering if it makes sense to try and use the CWIIIs (and maybe the Fortes) for an integrated system. So, my questions are: 1) Which will sound better for movies and dialog, Heritage or Reference? 2) What would I mate with the CWIIIs for a center and surrounds: used CWII or used Heresy II or III ? I'm guessing the Heresy III would be the best blend but then I've not heard the tonal difference between a CWII or Heresy II and the CWIII. 3) Is using the ForteII's for the surrounds overkill (plus I may not have the floor space)? How would a reference speaker blend for the surrounds? 4) Would 3 25.5" wide CWs be too much for such a small room from a visual (and maybe sound) perspective? I do plan to place some equipment at the front as well. I know it will not hurt them, but doesn't it seem kind of 'wrong' running high volume explosions and sound effects through the CWIIIs? Driving a RB-81II hard for movie watching just feels better to me for some reason.... Anyhow, any advice/comments are welcome; thanks!