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Who died and put you in charge? Sophia!

Mark, That is pretty strange since the seller has a lot of feedback and 100% positive. Did you mention you are Mark Deneen? I have a question what is the signature on the upper right side of the face plate? At least it looks like a signature. Craig

That is a completely different spec. don't confuse it with "input sensitivity" is a real world specification. I seriously don't know why this is going on and on...

Add feedback lose gain.... and of course the reverse. Definitely one of the reactions to that action.

Yeah well I seen that but people can name themselves anything they like. It just be a coincidence who knows?

Schu, The MQ iron in your VRD's is very different than the iron being discussed here. I was challenged by Paul Hovenga that I couldn't improve the VRD so I challenged Mike to dig through his vault of designs and make me something better! The winding technique is completely different. The only thing in common is size and form factor. I could not tell you what all is technically different because Mike would not tell me. He just said try it, if you like it pay me if not send it back. Well, I paid him It took me hours of tuning the feedback circuit (lowering already low feedback) for that new iron. That Iron as you know sounds better! But it's hard to put into words how they sound better. He wound me up 4 total sets. I own one set, Paul Owns one set, You own one set originally built for Rodney and I built a new pair of amps for a friend of Paul's that I do not recall his name. It really is too bad Mike is no longer of this world! Cheers Craig

Wow that was a blast for the past! I wonder if the Bob in this thread was Bob Latino? I suspect it was... if it is a really funny fact, in the end he ended up having his iron wound at the same place I did... Wish I knew for sure if it was him.

Ummmm no 10mV is a really low input sensitivity. The VRD was setup at the industry standard for a power amp of 1 Volt to full power. That is what input sensitivity rating is (input voltage to full power). Most modern integrated amplifier (power amp with volume control and source selector switch) are around 500mV to full power. 10mV is insanely sensitive which Leak amps are renowned for! Which also makes them extremely suspectable to noise pickup. Cheers Craig

We may be out of luck with the Model 10, I've never heard a mention of one. I've had a lot of contact over the years about the 12 and E. So, are you saying the 10 is a raw beast while the 12 is more refined?

Mark, Good to see you posting! Check your email again about the B-100 bet you wished you stored a dozen of those away LOL. I'm semi-retired. I just do a project or two a month to make mad money. I also service any gear I rebuilt or built in the past but not much seems to happen with any of that stuff. Cheers Craig

Not just impedance the big problem usually stems from too much gain. Amplifier with too low signal to full power rating coupled to preamps with more available gain then require to drive the amp to full power.

Oh I understand... What gear are you using that only has xlr or has an issues with using a xlr to single ended adaptor? Besides don't you know single ended is inherrently superior to anything on the planet regardless of situation😁😉

What is xlr sources? I don't get why retail electronics started including xlr? Completely unnecessary for 95% of listening rooms. Seems like just added expense with zero real world advantage. At least to me..

LOL yep good times!

My real-world experience with that is if you change the capacitor type by much which with brand new network you would have to make some serious changes to net yourself any difference, you'll also change the balance of the speaker in one direction or the other. Klipsch is pretty damn good at getting the best out of the components they use. Changing part types or "upgrading" blindly is a recipe for disaster.

I know one thing unlike most Klipsch heritage speakers Cornwall's could care less about back walls or corners. In fact in some ways the further out of the corner or back wall the better they sound. Back I believe what may have been the first Klipsch Fest Trey Cannon delivered a set of original Cornwall's for us to use at the wild party we had that night at the less then glamorous hotel we all stayed at. I sponsored a semi large meeting room and we played until the wee hours until the beer and our energy was gone. By the end of the night, we were down to a few of us, at that point we had moved the speakers at least a dozen feet off the back wall and about a dozen feet apart we sat maybe 10 feet back from the speakers.... turned the light off so it was pitch dark, cranked it up the speakers sonically disappeared. Was it really shocking or were we just drunk and tired I think it was real! I really do not think a Lascala or other none ported speaker could accomplish this without seeming lean in the lower frequencies. I say put them up on some milk crates or something and give it a whirl! I'd think you'd need some ceiling height beyond the normal 8' for it to work...

I no longer build new products (well I rarely do it)... Semi-retired ya know... So you are barking up the wrong tree! I work when I feel like it or need some mad money! No apology required!

It could be if you could find someone to go to the trouble. For me life is to short to spend it chasing needless endeavors.. do you plan on using extremely long IC's

Double quote and post...

Again please read through what I have written show me where I said anything sounds horrible in anyway, also show where I mentioned bribes? You sure need to grow a little thicker skin and learn how to properly comprehend what you are reading... This all started by me pointing out you suggesting people not cut $ spent because in the end they will throw away a bunch of money flipping gear to end up at the same audio place. I looked up what you had and found it to be the companies own professed beginner or entry level product... I could help but bring up the irony... You got your panties on the wad over it and responded with Steve Huff review crap .. so I responded with what I thought about professional reviews... That got your panties in a larger wad...... In the end I'm glad your happy with your system at a somewhat bargain price.. I suspect you'll be rolling more gear in at some point let us know what the reviewers say about it! PS the truth of the matter is most of this is pointless! Nothing new to discover in amplification! Even digital amps are pretty much completely figured out. In my opinion hasn't been anything really new for decades. Companies have to keep releasing the next supposed breakthrough otherwise close there doors. It's the nature of the beast... Heck most of us are using speakers designed well over 60 years ago! That ought to tell you something.

No one including me ever said the Raven Audio stuff does not sound good .. read carefully how all this started. That was never the point. I found a couple things he stated about his journey that seemed ironic... He brought up professional reviewers to prove his point which he didn't need to prove. My statements have never been about how his system performs..or about Raven audio... Let's not skew what is happening here!

First off let's get something clear.... I did not accuse or mention bribes... Again words getting put in my post that are not there... I said reviewers are either directly or indirectly paid by the industry... The rags or online websites you read these glowing reviews would not exist without the advertisers... So most of not all the reviewers income is coming from the same folks he is reviewing... Again either directly or indirectly. If you want to believe the owner of Raven on what the reviewer paid or didn't pay for the product well that is your decision. I know what I think. By the way I find it interesting that you seem hell bent defending these professional reviewers over me making the simple comment that I give little credence in what they have to say... I give what you the retail user have to say about the product much more then paid reviewers. UNTIL all you have to say is what they have already written. What I do find real funny is I just waste an hour reading through a few of his reviews.... Comparing 3.... His review of the R8, the R300 and then one on a Pass Labs separates system... To me they all were regurgitations of the same phrases. One thing that struck me on the Pass Labs is I read he still had the system after 8 months! Hmmm does he buy the equipment from all these companies? If so how does he ever make a dime? Or is he making an ungodly amount from advertisers on his website that he can just buy the stuff? Either way good for him but I'm not basing my audio decisions on his or any professional paid reviewers words. I'll use the reviews of regular everyday consumers that don't seem to be regurgitating those same platitudes...

And neither is inherently superior in all things audio... Same with the tube versus solid state cliche's. It's sad after all these years all those same cliche are being spewed all over the poor audio consumers...

The rudeness (if that is what you want to call it) comes from having to put up with the same old worn out cliche that SET amps (which In reality from what I have read from you so far your are not even using) are some inherently superior amplification device when in reality the reverse is the truth. The fascination with SE amps in your case is very inticing because they are so very flat out simple to build. {cheap too} So a less talented DIYer like you can be successful at throwing one together and satisfy your ego! Building a "QUALITY" push pull amplifier that is versatile playing any musical type without strain with the ability to still have the finesse to play 3 peice jazz now that takes talent. Your comment about PP sounding like SS isn't a rude comment? It's rude to both tube amplifier designers and solid state amp designers which many awesome examples of both exist. Face it you are like reading something that has been written a thousand times..... It's hard not to be rude. Besides I really thought for me I've been nice to you... I'm like Paul Klipsch when I read BS I call BS... Little education for you SSSS stands for Single as in one single output tube EEEE stands for Ended meaning again one final output tube Here is the important one TTTT stand for Triode and usually directly heated for the utmost in euphoric sound. Which with the REAL set crowd means tubes like a single 45, 2A3 or 300B along with few uncommon others.. not Tetrode and Pentodes strapped in quasi triode mode. It also usually means zero global negative feedback which is another misleading catch phrase since most them employ feedback just not off the final output of the amp which limits them from correcting errors derived from the output transformer. Than you factor in most of you DIYer are using bargain basement mass produced iron from the likes of Edcor and Hammond. Well sorry to say much to correct with those! The proper name to call amps like you seem to be using is just SE... Oh and I've done a lot more around here than just sell PP amplifiers. Sorry you missed it all! Forget it I give up! This is boring.

Good humor!!