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Mustang guy, I am actually embarassed with my placement issue. It was a total rookie mistake and I went for looks not for what would sound good. I will post a picture in hopes that someone might shed some light. I removed the braces and the polyfill this evening. I went ahead and put an extra bead of glue around all the edges just in case and will let it dry overnight. While doing this my 14year old decides he wants to help and accidently put a hole/dent on the sub. I am hoping it doesnt affect it. It doesnt go all the way through.If it was just dented it wouldn't make a difference in SQ, but to me it looks punctured, so I couldn't say for sure if it will mess with the sound until you give it a listen. Cviper I miss LGB. Used to live in calif until about 8 years ago. Miss the weather and the beaches but not the traffic. Had some great evenings in Belmont Shores.

Thanks guys, as I mentioned last night I removed the brace and the stuffing. That was not fun. Why is when you want glue to stick it doesn't and when you don't its impossible to get off. It didn't help that I glued and stapled the poly down. I used some really high strength glue around the seems just in case and let it dry overnight. I double checked this morning and its ready to put back together again. As far as I can tell it is not punctured. I don't see light or fill air coming through it. I put my lips to it and blew and it felt like a good seal. I will know tonight when I put it back together. Thanks again for all your help.

Yes I am the same person. I tried placing them on the side today and didn't really notice a difference. I think at this point I have not choice but to wait till tax return and finally get the towers I want and replace the entertainement center with a flat screen on the wall. Then I can place the subs on the front corners. I think that will be the best place for them.

Mustang guy, I am actually embarassed with my placement issue. It was a total rookie mistake and I went for looks not for what would sound good. I will post a picture in hopes that someone might shed some light. I removed the braces and the polyfill this evening. I went ahead and put an extra bead of glue around all the edges just in case and will let it dry overnight. While doing this my 14year old decides he wants to help and accidently put a hole/dent on the sub. I am hoping it doesnt affect it. It doesnt go all the way through.

So remove the poly and leave the brace? You don't think leaving the brace is going to take away from the volume of the box? Also what does fat sound like? I am not trying to be funny I am serious, the bass right now is very tight and not boomy.

That is the problem, I didn't. I had one and it sounded just fine without the additional stuff so I added it and thought it sound a little better. Then I got another one and expected to rip the drywall off the 2x4's. So I added bracing and polyfill to it as well and was completely disapointed. It's good but not what I though. I know I have some serious placement issues but I thought I would check on the additions to see if that could be what was causing my problems as well.

Hello all, I asked this question in another forum and the answer seems to be unanimous to remove them but I thought I would get some opinions here as well before I go through the process of removing them. These are Klipsch RW-12D subs. I know I have a placement issue but I think I migh thave made things worse by adding bracing and polyfill on the inside. One common concensus is that I messed around with the factory tunning by doing this. What is the opinion here. I have about 1lb of polyfill in there.

Thank you all for the replys. I think after doing some more research that my problem is placement. There is no port noise anymore, the port was loose at first from Newegg but when I received the subs I opened them up, glued the ports, braced the inside and filled with about 1lb of polyfiber. When I stand in front of the sub it its hard. Its solid and there is no noises. As soon as I step away a few feet I can't feel the bass anymore but I know its there becasue the picture frames are rattling and the wife complains: I also tried to pull the subs out of their location a few feet and it definitely makes a difference. Not night and day difference but definitely a difference. I think I will need to figure out a location other than under the tv and away from being blocked by 3 sides.

Thanks Tasdom, It seems to be noticeable on both. I am saying its noticeable but it could be that this is all these subs have to offer. Maybe I am hoping for more than these can put out. I mean don't get me wrong, they sound AMAZING. Walls shake, picture frames move and the kids wont turn the receiver off even for video games. I do have the phase set to 0 and the crossover off. The receiver is setting the crossover for the sub at 80. I do have y splitters as well. My receiver has dual sub outputs so I ran 15ft sub cables from the receiver to the subs then a splitter into the low level inputs. I will try switching the phase tomorrow and setting it to flat. I had it on depth but the port noise was too much and someone suggested punch to help and it did. You know the only think that changed from one location to the other was the cabling. I had monster cable subwoofer cable when the sub on the side and switched over to monoprice subwoofer cables when I went to the dual subs. Just because the monster cables where older. Could that be my culprit, could a cable be deminishing the sound?

Hello all, to be honest till today I didn't even know these forums excisted. I have been posting over at the AVS forums looking for answers to this problem and eventhough there are some great folks over there with a ton of knowledge no one has really been able to help me so I thought I would come here. What better place to ask a Klipsch question than a Klipsch forum. So here it goes with pics and all. I had 1 RW-12D placed on the left side of the listening position. Got 1 more and looked around did some research and sub crawling and found that the single one sounded best when it was right in front of me about 8-9 feet away. So I figured 2 of them right in front about 8-9 feet would be insane, in a good way. Built my tv cabinet/base around the subs. It looks really nice, but it doesn't sound as good as I thought it would, or does it and my amateur ears are just not hearing it correctly? I was hoping for chest pounding sound, and although it does sound really clean and there is no rattles, it just doesn't sound as good as I thought. I looked at some pics and read a few items where it showed the subs right in front of the listening position, kind of like at the movie theaters. I am a complete amateur at this and went with what I read and saw pics of. I received a couple of comments from someone I regard as knowledge in this field, on these forums and his opinion is that my problem is that the subs are enclosed on 3 sides. I am not questioning him but I just don't understand it since these are front firing and the port is in the front. Is is a resonance problem? I know subs are not necessarily directional but when I crawled on the sides of these subs when they were a the other position I didn't really hear much from the sides. I can rebuild the cabinet, its not that hard just need some opinions. Could it be my settings on the receiver or Sub. Here are the settings. Sub volume is -10, Set to Punch, Crossover is off on the sub and set to 80hz on the receiver. The receiver was tuned using YPAO and front speakers are set to small. Picture is of the level settings for the sub and speakers. As you can see from one of the pictures I really dont have any room to place the subs on the sides of the entertainment center. I can place them at the sides of the room and did that yesterday but to be honest I didn't hear much of a difference.