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When I heard the sub doing this at close range, it turned out to be the out-of-phase modes from the second poorly-placed sub that was causing the flutter. I had another sub in my kitchen for my "B" speakers. Once I moved the living room sub to the near-field position behind the couch (which also turned out making the rest of the room sound better), I discovered that the bass now freely radiates into the kitchen where it didn't before. I was able to turn down the kitchen sub to almost nothing. And without the interaction between these two cranked-up poorly-placed subs, most of the flutter has been eliminated. The location of my main tower speakers is s horrible place for bass tones to originate. With my subs and mains crossed-over at 40 or 60 Hz, the flutter is still there because the towers are causing it. With it set at 80 Hz and fronts on "small", the sub (with better placement now) is handling all of the lower bass, and the whole room sounds better. Only a few certain bass notes have any noticeable flutter, due to having inconvenient wavelengths that don't agree with a certain dimension of the room's shape. Music, movies, everything sounds better now.

The RW8 and RW10 do not fit well behind my couch without moving it far away from the wall. However, I discovered the RW8 will fit INSIDE the couch's middle section where there isn't a recliner. The cushion doesn't sag as far now, but it sounds great in most listening positions. This will do for now.

Update: I did the sub crawl tonight, and you guys were right. The room is sick, with nasty phase interference everywhere. I put the sub in the ideal listening position, and the only suitable placement is entirely unsuitable from a cosmetic standpoint. In the entryway by the front door, or in the entry closet where my wife's shoe rack is sitting. i I moved the sub to a second commonly-used listening position, and there's literally NOWHERE in the room where it doesn't sound fluttery. In fact, placement anywhere in that part of the room produced nasty results. Putting the sub next to the front mains causes entire phase cancellation to most bass frequencies, but for some reason sounds stronger with the phase flipped, even though my mains are set to "small" and the sub is acting alone without a stereo helper. That doesn't even make sense. Heres my my sub in the listening position: The entryway area across the opposite side of the room is where the sub sounded strongest and flutter-free while located at the listening position: now what do I do?

I just want the bass tones to sound the way they do on the same audio track on any other system. This reminds me of the sound effect of a Subharmonic bass "enhancer." It just occurred to me, the RW8 subwoofer hooked to my dining room speakers on the B speaker channels is fed by a speaker-level signal, and it sounds this way too.

Even if I lay down right in front of the sub, it sounds this way, with a variety of low frequencies. Is this normal with a ported design?

Always done it. Didn't do it any less when I ran multiple subs. Is it possible the Yamaha receiver is adding the fluttery undertones?

It's stronger on certain notes, that's why I thought maybe I was hearing phasing issues. The bass tones that should have a smooth sound have a blubbery sound, like playing chords on a bass guitar.

Position choices are limited. In the corner behind the couch, the flutters seem worse. In the front row next to my mains, it's a little less, but of course less efficient. And strangely, it sounds thin up there if the phase isn't flipped, which doesn't even make sense. Even sitting right next to the sub, tone bass sounds like it has an artificial subharmonic.

My RW-10's exhibit a weird sub-harmonic sound with certain tone bass frequencies. Using Yamaha RX-V577. Some bass tones have a fluttery overtone/undertone sound instead of a deep monotone sound. Is this the product of processing in the receiver LFE channel? Or am I hearing weird phasing issues due to direct/reflected paths to my ears?

What ever you buy, get it from a local independent store, not a corporate big-box retailer.

I also own a pair of RB10's, they're up on a shelf in the kitchen, with a RW8 under the bottom shelf in the pantry running off the speaker-level signal, so they have their own custom crossover frequency, around 100 Hz. I own two pairs of RB15's, I run them in my retail music (instruments) store on PinPoint mounts, with a SW-450 and a Velodyne ULD12 at 80 Hz, each placed at opposite ends of the sales floor to fill in the low end.

I considered wall mounting my RB's to save some floor space, but I can't get over the difference in voice between the two sets. The RB's are screechy and throaty. YPAO and custom EQ's can't bridge the gap. All the bass sounds like it's coming directionally from the sub by the time I've tweaked it to almost keep up with the voice of the towers. The RB's sound decent for voice dialog, but music sounds lousy, no matter what settings I use. I'm bummed. I guess I'll put these RB's back in the box for the kids when they grow up. I set them on top of my RF's for the test.

You get what you pay for. Most of the 1080 stuff they're selling through have crappy colors, crappy viewing angle, slow refresh rates, frame judder, slow smart apps, glowing orbs around the edges, etc. I got a 65" Samsung JS8500 just before Christmas, before the price went up. It was worth every penny.

Espresso for me, with a squirt of white chocolate syrup and a splash of carmel macchiato creamer. The other guys at the shop like a light roast or medium roast, black and strong. Usually a Breakfast Blend, Ethiopian, or 8'o'clock.

Wow, this stuff is pretty good. More bite than Lagavulin, but more substance.

4x4 or bust. Nothing quite like it.

Lagavulin was my first true Islay malt whisky. I really enjoy the intense and complex flavor profile of the Uigeadail, but I love the smoky smoothness of the Lag 16. Glenlivet 12 will always be my go-to when I'm not in the mood for the peat.

This was my sampler offered after Thanksgiving dinner.

Gone!

Ah, never mind, I still like the Glrnlivet 12 year better for the same price. Picked up some of this last night. Very nice. Lots of bourbon influence.

This stuff is delicious!!

Lately for me, it's been ordinary Glenmorangie 10-year for general sipping, and Ardbeg Uigeadail when I feel like I deserve it. Glenmorangie is the cheapest single-malt at the grocery store... Smooth and pleasant. Uigeadail is expensive, but it's probably the most intensely-flavored whisky in existence, and is quite satisfying in small portions.

I opened a bottle of Glenmorangie Original last week... I think this is my favorite non-peaty variety so far. I like it better than some of the more-expensive aged Highlands and Speysides. Not super complex, but nice flavor and very smooth for a cheap and lesser-aged whisky.

I have a mint pair, not sure I want to part with them though.

Duder, Glenlivet 12 or 15 is a safe bet if you like something simple and smooth. Those are good ones to get started with, until you develop the palate for something more intense and complex. My wife has been giving me crap lately about the whisky drinking. Gotta lay off for a while, I guess.