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OK my hero, Peyton Manning (7-2), the greatest living QB of all time (520 TD passes), with did not look so good in his drubbing against Brady and the Patriots (7-2). Arizona Cardinals look good this week at 8 and 1. Lions are 7 and 2, Cowboys 7 wins and 3 losses. Five teams are 6 and 3.

Do not buy classic Klipsch corner Khorns! It will transform your life. Your tweaking audiophile hobby can be affected. Your lifestyle can change. Klipsch Khorns can be involved in Significant Other issues. These are full size musical instruments. Like a piano or drum kit. Khorns are big. They need corners. They play LOUD. Khorns play louder than so-called loudspeakers. They play deep (30-Hz), deeper than so-called full range loudspeakers. The longest selling loudspeaker model in history are EXTREMELY efficient and easy to power, even with a boom box (see “Stereos as Indoor Sport” at EnjoyTheMusic.com). Amazing Khorn efficiency REVEALS everything with background and sound floor noise, front-end harshness or distortion, jitter, amplifiers. Big Ole Horn loudspeakers change everything you know about bass, dynamics, efficiency, wind instruments, percussion, sensitivity, total harmonic distortion, impedance, imaging, soundstage, separation, tubes and amplifiers. You will be playing music and movies all the time. You will wonder why other tweaking audiophiles are never happy. You will see that they just don’t get it. Their loudspeakers don’t make music.

tubes, I suggest tubes http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1212/garber_fi_x4.htm you will love this amp with your horns (but like me, you might want a good sub-woofer) also Choices of Amplifiers for Big Ole Horn loudspeakers It is not just the THD, since Big Ole Horn loudspeakers don’t need a lot of watts, it is also the TYPE of distortion, which is why so many tweaking audiophiles recommend TUBES: Look for heavy, vintage solid-state receivers, like Harmon Kardon twin transformer models 430-930, for less than $150, but which go for as little as $5 in a yard sale (mine). These sound as good as new receivers costing hundreds, even thousands (see Roksan Caspain receiver review on EnjoyTheMusic.com). They are quite a bargain for Big Ole Horn loudspeakers. Even the low cost ($30) Lepai LP-2020A+ stereo, class T, audio chip amplifier can easily drive my 103-dB efficient Big Ole Horn loudspeakers on most music to moderate volumes at ¼ on the dial. Like a cheap burger, it is a lot of food for the price. Hard to beat. Check out better quality chip amplifiers, like Sonic Impact and Trend Audio, which are about $100 Seriously consider low-cost, refurbished tube amplifiers from fellow forum poster Craig, at NOSvalves.com. Many are a few hundred. Refurbishing one will take time, and about double the cost, so it a great amplifier will cost about a grand. The result however, will be as almost as good as most mega-buck integrated amplifiers, solid-state or tube. Consider either vintage integrated or separate tube pre and power amplifiers. The classic solid-state Outlaw receiver is excellent on Big Ole Horn loudspeakers, perhaps the best solid-state receiver value I have heard. I know from experience that new Cayin, Cary, Antique Sound Labs and Bottlehead tube amplifiers are quite good Jonathon Valin in The Absolute Sound (September 09) gave a rave review to the $800 Odyssey Khartago Power Amplifier comparing it very favorably to much more expensive amplifiers. I auditioned both the Nelson Pass X250 and his radical 10-watt SIT-2 amplifiers on my Big Ole Horn and other loudspeakers for EnjoyTheMusic.com. I have yet to hear a movie/music and system configuration with either Big Ole Horn loudspeakers, electrostatic or traditional cone drivers in which either Pass amplifier always showed off the best that the system could deliver. Passes me out.

Choices of Amplifiers for Big Ole Horn loudspeakers It is not just the THD, since Big Ole Horn loudspeakers don’t need a lot of watts, it is also the TYPE of distortion, which is why so many tweaking audiophiles recommend TUBES: Look for heavy, vintage solid-state receivers, like Harmon Kardon twin transformer models 430-930, for less than $150, but which go for as little as $5 in a yard sale (mine). These sound as good as new receivers costing hundreds, even thousands (see Roksan Caspain receiver review on EnjoyTheMusic.com). They are quite a bargain for Big Ole Horn loudspeakers. Even the low cost ($30) Lepai LP-2020A+ stereo, class T, audio chip amplifier can easily drive my 103-dB efficient Big Ole Horn loudspeakers on most music to moderate volumes at ¼ on the dial. Like a cheap burger, it is a lot of food for the price. Hard to beat. Check out better quality chip amplifiers, like Sonic Impact and Trend Audio, which are about $100 Seriously consider low-cost, refurbished tube amplifiers from fellow forum poster Craig, at NOSvalves.com. Many are a few hundred. Refurbishing one will take time, and about double the cost, so it a great amplifier will cost about a grand. The result however, will be as almost as good as most mega-buck integrated amplifiers, solid-state or tube. Consider either vintage integrated or separate tube pre and power amplifiers. The classic solid-state Outlaw receiver is excellent on Big Ole Horn loudspeakers, perhaps the best solid-state receiver value I have heard. I know from experience that new Cayin, Cary, Antique Sound Labs and Bottlehead tube amplifiers are quite good Jonathon Valin in The Absolute Sound (September 09) gave a rave review to the $800 Odyssey Khartago Power Amplifier comparing it very favorably to much more expensive amplifiers. I auditioned both the Nelson Pass X250 and his radical 10-watt SIT-2 amplifiers on my Big Ole Horn and other loudspeakers for EnjoyTheMusic.com. I have yet to hear a movie/music and system configuration with either Big Ole Horn loudspeakers, electrostatic or traditional cone drivers in which either Pass amplifier always showed off the best that the system could deliver. Passes me out.

not far off, iff covered nicely! If I might brag a bit: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0105/standbyme.htm Nurseries and garden shops sell white-stone pedestals in classic Grecian-styles for plants and statutes. They are two to three feet high, not too wide and heavy - they don't need filling with sand; they are sand themselves.

I tracked vintage Klipsch model re-sales several years ago. The data is old, but with the pullback in prices recently, it still provides a good guide to what to look for and expect: LaScalas are the same as Belles, but with exposed wood front (no cloth on bottom), share the same lens and drivers as the Khorn and also fall below 100Hz. Their frequency response is rougher, but it is NOT tipped at both ends like the Belles. LaScalas are bargains compared to the similar Belles. From a dozen sales on eBay and Klipsch forum beginning in 2004, and recently in 2009, LaScalas sold from $292 to $2,504! Since this depression, recent 2009 sales for $300, 600 and 800 are dropping the average down to $1064! In all cases, the type of crossover can make a difference, as some are better than others. The shipping average I had was $150 for both Belles and LaScala models. Because Belles and LaScalas share the same upper horns as the classic Khorn, you might say they provide 80% of the best Klipsch horn sound. If so, the average Belle and LaScala pair sell for a lot less than 80% of a Khorn. Posted: 5/1/2006 6/19/2009

I would use amp of similar wattage into same ohm load (nominally 8-ohms) as other channels to match their output. An amp with twice the wattage will deliver about 3-dB volume and appear twice as loud. You don't want that. An amp of half the power will be 3-dB as loud and therefore less loud and you don't want that either. Or use better two-channel for the two mains and 7-channel amp for the other speakers.

get the Khorns first, but it is same mid horns as LaScalas and yet MUCH better bass than all three...

can Colts Lions or Dolphins (again) beat the Patriots? If not, then who on their remaining schedule can take Brady down? http://www.patriots.com/schedule-and-stats/schedule.html Could we see Patriots ride Broncos again in playoffs?

except for NE, who did, who else on the remaining Broncos schedule can beat them? http://www.denverbroncos.com/schedule-and-events/schedule.html

Manning's playing career and statistics have ranked him among the greatest quarterbacks of all-time. From 1998 to 2010, he led the Colts to eight (seven AFC South and one AFC East) division championships, two AFC championships, and one Super Bowl championship (Super Bowl XLI). His five NFL MVPs are a league record,[1] he was the most valuable player of Super Bowl XLI, has been named to thirteen Pro Bowls, has thirteen 4,000-yard passing seasons,[2][3] and is the Indianapolis Colts' all-time leader in passing yards (54,828) and touchdown passes (399).

I know Peyton and Brady are great QBs

Steelers? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000420464/article/midseason-report-bold-secondhalf-predictions?campaign=Facebook_atn_predictins

Choices of Amplifiers for Big Ole Horn loudspeakers Look for heavy, vintage solid-state receivers, like Harmon Kardon twin transformer models 430-930, which go for as little as $5 in a yard sale (mine). These sound as good as new receivers costing hundreds, even thousands (see Roksan Caspain receiver review on EnjoyTheMusic.com). They are quite a bargain for Big Ole Horn loudspeakers. Even the low cost ($30) Lepai LP-2020A+ stereo, class T, audio chip amplifier can easily drive my 103-dB efficient Big Ole Horn loudspeakers on most music to moderate volumes at ¼ on the dial. Like a cheap burger, it is a lot of food for the price. Hard to beat. Check out better quality chip amplifiers, like Sonic Impact and Trend Audio, which are about $100 Seriously consider low-cost, refurbished tube amplifiers from fellow forum poster Craig, at NOSvalves.com. Many are a few hundred. Refurbishing one will take time, and about double the cost, so it a great amplifier will cost about a grand. The result however, will be as almost as good as most mega-buck integrated amplifiers, solid-state or tube. Consider either vintage integrated or separate tube pre and power amplifiers. The classic solid-state Outlaw receiver is excellent on Big Ole Horn loudspeakers I know from experience that new Cayin, Cary, Antique Sound Labs and Bottlehead tube amplifiers are quite good Jonathon Valin in The Absolute Sound (September 09) gave a rave review to the $800 Odyssey Khartago Power Amplifier comparing it very favorably to much more expensive amplifiers.

hey, its my SuperBowl thread, I resurrect every year about this time, I was just posting the leaders, cant help if they are 3-3, think it could be Brady vs Peyton Manning?

$400!!! http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0302/aslwave8.htm

BTW, real voices and instruments are NOT only 50-Hz. It is much lower. Humans can hear down to 20-Hz (which takes a lot of energy). We can FEEL as low as just five cycles per second (Hz), which takes even more energy. CDs have “musical” things happening below 40-Hz, no matter what the subject matter! Using the Real Time Analyzer in my Behringer DEQ2496 UltraCurve Pro equalizer, let me tell you, even the human voice has HARMONICS that extend below 40-Hz. Rock/popular music certainly does get below 40Hz, unless there is no kick drum, saxophone, bass guitar or piano! In fact, 40-Hz is the low string on the bass guitar, which means there certainly are HARMONICS lower than the initial 40-Hz note. The kick drum itself makes a low 30-Hz note, which can reach momentary peaks of 120-dB! That alone should indicate the need for very big, very deep and very powerful sub-woofers to replicate live music realistically. The key is to seek accuracy and flat frequency response in the hyper-critical range (100 to 13-kHz) FIRST, as much as possible, before reaching for those low notes. But a system that ignores the high-energy bass and low-end never sounds real.

Besides, Khorns sit in the corner, not out in the middle of the room. Big and Square? Sure, but they have practically zero footprint. Otherwise look for used LaScala and Belles for a few hundred. Listen to what real music sounds like.

Stereos, As They Relate to Indoor Sport I frequently hear lush, smooth, high-quality, intimate and live-in-the studio type sound systems in my local tweaking audiophile Meetup. I hear a $30 class D chip amplifier, like Trends or Sonic Impact, on my Big Ole Horn loudspeakers all the time. I would take the inherent musicality of extremely low distortion, incredible dynamics and amazing efficiency of Big Ole Horn loudspeakers over any cone loudspeaker any day, regardless of looks or size. Big Ole Horn loudspeakers are the instrument. They make music. I heard a cheap boom box driving my Klipsch Khorns. It was almost wonderful. See “Stereos, As They Relate to Indoor Sport” http://www.enjoythemusic.com/senselessrambling/

There is no way I would ever part with my Khorns, only continue to make them better. I love what the big ole horns can do, even if you are NOT a tweaking audiophile seeking the best watt in flea-powered amplification. They cast a big, wide, clear, dynamic soundstage that sounds more like the real thing for less money than any meg-buck system I have heard. The huge bass bins create real live acoustic bass, not a electronic copy of the electric thing. Vocals sparkle and shimmer as if flowing down a mountain stream. Imaging is as solid as Tinkerbelle. I heard only two different Khorns at preacherman Daddydees’ May 2004 Klipsch gathering in Little Rock, Arkansas, in two very different rooms and set-ups, but they both sounded like Khorns to me. They got it. They both conveyed the elusive magic tweaking audiophile all seek. There is no way I would ever part with my Khorns….unless there is a deal on JBL bass bins, with let’s see, Altec 511B horns and ….

posted pic on https://www.facebook.com/pages/Big-Ole-Horns/142663002431283?ref=bookmarks

Patriots, Ravens, Colts, Cowboys, Lions, Panthers and Cardinals lead at almost 1/2 season, whose going? My guy Peyton looks awesome, but can he do it against younger teams? Can anybody beat the best QB in football? http://www.nfl.com/standings

: I like Marky Mark movies. I don’t think I have seen a bad one yet. They aren’t moving blockbusters, like Captain Philips or Gravity. He always plays a tough guy. Some times good. Sometimes not. I liked 2 Guns and Pain & Gain. Lone Survivor is an up close and personal look at the dirty, messy and bloody Afghanistan war, like Restrepo and Saving Private Ryan. Like those movies it shows the real cost of war in the heroes it creates and chews up. It is a big bang shoot-em up worth seeing on the big screen. Certainly worth renting if you like war movies. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1091191/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_4

Seahawks ranked #1! Really? Seahawks? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000292119/article/power-rankings-week-14-seahawks-rule-panthers-patriots-rise?campaign=Facebook_writers_harrison

Jets! Really? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000281398/article/new-york-jets-in-position-to-land-afc-playoff-spot?campaign=Facebook_atl_hanzus