Paducah Home Theater

It can be done cleanly. For those saying get a streamer, I mean, a streamer is just a stripped down computer with a decent DAC. Only bad thing is that most laptops come with a cheap DAC built in. At least get a nice sound car or get an external DAC. Cyrus even made a tiny little USB key DAC that was only like $69 that would be much better than what most stock laptops have.

I mean, the baffle situation is real, however, it's not the tweeter that is affected. it's all based on the wavelength of what is being reproduced. Having a horn loaded tweeter / compression driver sitting in an 11.5" wide cabinet that's 4' tall... it's going to be crossed over higher than the frequency of where the response starts to flatten out. What happens is that with lower frequencies, the longer wavelength allows frequencies to wrap around and go behind the cabinet, so you get some loss. Manufacturers account for this by having the natural output of the woofers higher. By extending the baffle, or adding a full baffle wall like in higher end home theater applications, you get a bump in the bass / midbass / lower midrange because that loss isn't the same. Your response ends up being totally different. All this is very well known and nothing new. However doing this while specifically concentrating on the tweeter is backwards.

Although this thread probably isn't the appropriate place, drivers / woofers made for home use can be used in cars just fine. Several top cars in terms of sound quality are running Acoustic Elegance which is high quality home woofers. Cars that want super low response are running Stereo Integrity which is known for home theater. JTR actually uses drivers made by Fi Car Audio. The guy that runs the data-bass site and has tested tons of home subs picked out his favorite for home use and it was apparently the Rockford Fosgate 19". So it's all very interchangeable. Really the biggest difference as a blanket statement is that car subs for maximum SPL are often made for rattling your teeth out around 36" in a ported box while being fed massive amounts of power, and not much else.

What happens in my opinion is that the high level inputs allows higher frequencies through more. The sense of a "fast" subwoofer actually comes from the midrange, it's not sub-bass. The people I've talked to in the past were comparing a high level full range signal, to a low level signal that had been ran through a crossover. IF you do that then also have a crossover on the subwoofer, the crossover slope will be steeper than intended, and it's going to sound bloated and sluggish, with none of the faint upper harmonics which makes a subwoofer sound more musical. I've never bought one but that's what I suspect is happening.

Yeah I'm curious about this. You actually have to search pretty hard to find material where voice bleed into the subwoofers with an 80 hz crossover. With movies about the only one I could find was where the little girl was talking to Don Luis in Colombiana in the opening scene. The vast majority of voices ought to never even touch a sub. So I'm curious as to how a subwoofer helps with voices that much.

What's interesting to me is that people fall for that marketing gimmick. You can actually make any subwoofer accept high level inputs in a superior manner by investing in a Jensen transformer. I can't confirm but multiple people have said that all REL is doing is using a resistor. If this method were that much better you'd hear tons of people singing the praises about those transformers. But you don't. You've probably never heard it mentioned a single time. What you do hear is people singing the praises of REL's cheap resistor setup or whatever it is due to their marketing. Not to mention that this method is worthless in a home theater setup. It doesn't make any sense.

There was actually a pretty good scientific study on this. They found that if they injected music with harmonic distortion on the bass, at the lowest frequencies it literally took around 100% harmonic distortion before people thought something wasn't quite right. Intermodulation distortion is arguably a different story but a decent amount of harmonic distortion largely centered on the second harmonic is just going to blend in. It's interesting how people will argue against that and worry about harmonic distortion on the bass but then turn around and purposely get tube amps that often have 2-10% harmonic distortion on the second harmonic and think that it's pleasing to the ear. Biggest problem I've heard as it pertains to this issue with subs is that cheaper subs that have cabinets that are too small will often ring and sound colored plus some have limiters that aren't linear in terms of frequency response. The end result is that when you spank them you can get distortion artifacts and unnatural response that is well above 100 hz which is very localizeable and sounds like crap.

I've had Fortes sustaining 110 db on bass boosted Eminem with a 40 watt half sized Marantz NR 1607 so yeah it will work fine. However you compare it with a class A external amp and crank it up and you'll be able to hear some passages where the amp will do better so I wouldn't have any delusions about thinking that receiver is the best it can possibly get. Biggest problem with receivers is that when there are big dynamics that coincide with an impedance dip, which will happen, the receiver can kind of choke and you can hear it. At lower volumes you probably won't be able to tell them apart.

When people say female vocals they nearly always mean high and smooth like Eva Cassidy. However there's plenty of Susan Tedeschi's out there. Cornwall 3's aren't very good for lower and gruffy female vocals such as Susan Tedeschi. Sounds very bloated, the box coloration adds some midbass that should not be there. It just does. Sorry. Get the Heresy or if possible save up for Forte 4. The new Cornwall 4's are leaps and bounds more accurate on material like this as compared to the 3's. Even Stevie Ray Vaughn's bluesy guitar sounds overly bloated on Cornwall 3. About the only material I liked more than other speakers was things with a playful bass guitar with vocals that aren't too low. Sublime was super fun on them for example, it just exaggerated the bass guitar a little, not much else. Tedeschi Trucks Band is a different story.

will respond in the other thread.

There is a train that goes from Chicago to Carbondale IL. Take it and I'll pick you up and bring you to the shop in Paducah, you can even spend the night there. There is an apartment upstairs. Axpona didn't have Jubilees this year though.

Cornwalls specifically, yes. Can't really go wrong with them. The idea that you're holding out for better at that price point isn't based in reality.

yes they yanked pricing rules on these to get rid of them so we can do whatever we want. McLaren licensing deal is expiring, had to do something.

Deleting the KV-2 and having dialogue coming out of the extreme corners of the room isn't exactly a huge improvement. Both are weird.

If we're going to show some pics then we might as well show one with some clothes on.

It's called "stuff ain't selling well at all so let's have a big sale". I wouldn't read into the situation any further.

I use many PowerNodes at home and at the shop. It's great to create groups then be able to stream multiple rooms plus you don't have to turn them on and off, so I love it for background music. However they have a very sterile sound. The streamer is great, but the amp is just very sterile especially at higher volumes. Basically what audiophiles describe as a "wet" sounding amp, this is the opposite. Personally I would not be a fan of that combination at any decent volume, however it will be more than fine for background music.

Don't have much choice other than the rp-500sa ii. However, two doesn't do much with upfiring. If you want to do four and are able to position them right, they can work. If you can use them as elevation speakers high up on the wall it would be better.

Goodness. Look, throw all the other stuff away, get a third identical Tekton, get them all on the same plane, and just never use your fireplace again. Only then will this be a useful conversation. Like somebody here mentioned... yer doin it wrong.

Consider the following situations: 1. all three fronts are playing the same material 2. only the center channel is playing 3. only the mains are playing 4. the center is playing one thing but the mains are playing something else All of these will sound exactly the same with a phantom center, plus if you're sitting off-axis, nothing is anchored to the screen at all, voices will always come out of whatever speaker is closest to you. It's not a good thing. Center channels are important.

no. well... the problem is that what he's trying to do will sound like garbage. But sending a proper signal to both RCA cables from the same source is perfectly fine and often times actually recommended.

It's my understanding that most are going into showrooms, not necessarily homes for personal use. But that may be incorrect.

How fast are they? Like 200 mph?

While I'm sure the seller greatly appreciates your friend's business, he forgot to ask for permission to "borrow" the seller's pictures of the products and his showroom. I hear that the seller has had several weird comments and questions and alerts about this ad since it's, like, you know, copyright issues and stuff. I'm sure that the seller would have preferred that your friend take the initiative to unbox them and use his own pictures at his own place if he is going to demand such a high markup over what he paid for them, then put said pictures in an environment that has such a high exposure, shown to people who largely know good and well where the pictures came from.