beemer

Been out of circulation for a while - too many things going on around home and work, but I know of only one place to come for good, sound Klipsch advice (yeah, it's a pretty bad pun too...) Have been very happy with my HT setup for a while, but - horrors! - the dreaded "upgradeitis" bug has hit again. My home is like many out there, designed 35 years ago with a basement most unsuited for a good media room. One has to make do with existing layouts for speaker placement, as well as keeping the wife happy (and not "tripping over those %#&@# speakers again"). My surrounds are placed on the floor about 15 feet back of the main listening area, with about 10' of seperation between them. Due to furniture and room constraints, one faces directly at listeners (at least backs of heads), while the other has to be twisted about 30 degrees from the first. 1st question; would I gain anything by switching from my 2.2's to something like a wall mounted surround such as an SS1 or RS3? Wall mounting might offer somewhat more latitude as to placement, although they would have to be mounted near the ceiling, instead of at ear level. Would WDST overcome any questions about angle of placement or am I asking for more trouble? 2nd question; if upgrading is the proper answer, which might be a better match to my current system - SS1's or RS3's? The SS1's would be a proper match for my center channel, but of course the RS3's are the next step up the ladder (or is bigger not necessarily better?) Spec wise, at least, both are close to the specifications of my mains (which are placed a bit off kilter too, but thats another story..) Any thoughts or opinions greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the sugestions hand help guys, but the whole thing has fallen thru. Without telling my friend, another family member disposed of the speakers some time ago. (Still don't know what they were for sure) Oh well, maybe someday... "if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is..." ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub This message has been edited by beemer on 03-20-2002 at 01:35 AM

Thanks for the suggestions guys, but the whole thing has fallen thru. Without telling my friend, another family member disposed of the speakers some time ago. Oh well, someday maybe... "if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is..." ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub This message has been edited by beemer on 03-20-2002 at 01:37 AM

When we talked, I quoted the dimensions of the Cornwalls from the Klipsch website. I waw told they were pretty close to what these speakers are - he also made a point of how HEAVY they were, which certainly describes a Cornwall. My wife has actually seen these speakers, albiet years ago. From her memory, she indicated they looked a lot more like pictures of CWs I found on the web than any other Klipsch speaker. I just don't get the weird porting. In response to eq_shadimar, a ported Heresy? I was given to understand that Heresys were (are) sealed units. Were there exceptions to this rule?? ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

(Sorry for the double post - trying a different forum with a bit more exposure) I recently stumbled upon what might be a very interesting find. A friend has had a pair of Klipsch speakers in storage for a number of years and may be willing to part with them. I have not seen these speakers (as they are stored 2 hours drive away from here) so cannot be sure what model they are (he is not sure either). From the descriptions my friend has given me, they would seem to be a set of vintage Cornwalls from about the early 70's. He has described them as a short, fat, BIG 3 way ported speaker, but his description of the port does not fit with any of the Cornwalls I have ever seen pictures of. To be specific, they are a typical (top to bottom) tweeter, midrange, woofer configuration, but are ported (round, 2 1/2 - 3") to the side of the woofer instead of the three rectangular ports on the base of the cabinet. Are these indeed Cornwalls or is there some model of Klipsch that fits this description better from this vintage? (Been thru the classic section of this website and haven't seen anything that matches any closer.) Next question; if these are Cornwalls in good working order, any suggestions on what (if any) mods might be recommended or necessary for running with more modern receivers/amps, or just general improvement. I wouldn't mind getting some idea of what I might have to put into these for a good restoration and to keep the wife happy. Thanks. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

I recently stumbled upon what might be a very interesting find. A friend has had a pair of Klipsch speakers in storage for a number of years and may be willing to part with them. I have not seen these speakers (as they are stored 2 hours drive away from here) so cannot be sure what model they are (he is not sure either). From the descriptions my friend has given me, they would seem to be a set of vintage Cornwalls from about the early 70's. He has described them as a short, fat, BIG 3 way ported speaker, but his description of the port does not fit with any of the Cornwalls I have ever seen pictures of. To be specific, they are a typical (top to bottom) tweeter, midrange, woofer configuration, but are ported (round, 2 1/2 - 3") to the side of the woofer instead of the three rectangular ports on the base of the cabinet. Are these indeed Cornwalls or is there some model of Klipsch that fits this description better from this vintage? (Been thru the classic section of this website and haven't seen anything that matches any closer.) Next question; if these are Cornwalls in good working order, any suggestions on what (if any) mods might be recommended or necessary for running with more modern receivers/amps, or just general improvement. I wouldn't mind getting some idea of what I might have to put into these for a good restoration and to keep the wife happy. Thanks. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub This message has been edited by beemer on 03-17-2002 at 05:06 PM

I stand corrected. My intentions were to run the old sub in-line with which ever speakers I settled on using. The new sub will run off the LFE line from the receiver/amp. Both my rear channels and the center have similar low frequency limits (50 hz on the 2.2s and 60 on the SC1) so I was going to set them large and use the sub crossover to blend. Sorry for not clarifying... ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

Okay, here's another question for the Klipsch gurus out there.. I am going to upgrade my system with a new sub in the near future (more on that in a new thread shortly) and have been wondering what to do with my old sub. It just doesn't quite cut it for HT (my main listening mode) but is still producing a very acceptable sound. Given the specs of my system, would I be better off using it to fill out my rear surrounds or run it with my SC1 up front. I realize a great deal of sound information goes to the center channel but how much is in the lower frequencies that a sub would handle as compared to the rears? Thoughts? Opinions?? ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

How true... Not all these people have a home of their own grant you (some still live with mommy & daddy so there is no way the folks are gonna let them blare their music!)and some live in a condo or townhouse so thats not gonna happen either. When I was a teenager and still lived at home, my car stereo was the best that I could afford (mind you, 60 watt amps were the cutting edge at that time). When I got my own place, the home stereo improved to the limits my apartment landlord would tolerate (the friend who introduced me to Klipsch could never understand why I wouldn't buy his spare set of LaScalas). Times have yet again changed, I am married with a very tolerant wife and a house WITH LARGE BASEMENT. At Christmas she unwittingly re-awakended the dreaded upgraditis monster that was hibernating in me, and another chapter has begun. And then I discovered this forum... ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

Some of you have exressed curiosity about my decision to omit SVSubs from my short list. I do believe SV Subs produces a high quality product with excellent customer support (have not seen a bad review yet). My reasons for not considering them have more to do with other factors than the quality of product. As stated in my profile, I live north of the 49th parallel. I work in a business that ships trans-border enough to know that it is not always an easy task. Paperwork, duties and delays are potential and sometimes all too real (and that was before the events of last fall - it hasn't gotten any easier). I also value the ability, in the event of problems, to load up my speaker, drive 20 minutes(on a bad traffic day) and have my concerns addressed and/or resolved. In some cases, my local dealers will come right to my home to correct problems or assist in setup. It would also be very difficult for an on-line store or direct shipper to allow me to demo a product in my home, with my own equipment to see if it is right for my environment. In the defense of on-line stores however, the above reasons are taken with a grain of common sense. If such a store can give me a substantial saving on a similar product, the benefits may well outweigh the hazards. I do not suffer price-gouging from locals lightly (this has never been a problem in my case as my prefered dealers have always treated me well and are very price-competitive). It would seem by reading some of the previous responses in this thread that I am quite fortunate to have the local dealers I do. This only underlines my reasoning for supporting local dealers that reciprocate with good service and competitive pricing. The converse is also very true - don't support your local dealers and they may not be there when you do need them. Heaven knows there are few enough audio dealers in my part of the world, let alone good ones. I would like to see the good ones stay around. (I'll step down off my soapbox now...) ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub This message has been edited by beemer on 02-05-2002 at 08:05 PM

Still weaking my sub for optimal results and have gained a lot of useful info from this forum. My ten year old Yamaha sounds better than it ever has (amazing what a pair of 7 inchers can do when hooked up with quality cable and crossovers set properly). HOWEVER, while it is great for giving my music a good bottom end, it simply is not quite there for HT. Thinking seriously about upgrades and have have narrowed my long list to a short one. Two of the candidates (besides Klipsch KSW12) are either a Boston Acoustics PV600 or PV800. Never seem to see much mention of BA products in these forums - any problems?? Thoughts, comments?? (Please note that my list does not include SVSubs - no local dealer - or Klipsch Reference (love the line but a little too rich for my pocketbook)) ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

Thanks for the reply. This is not the chart I had remembered but even better. The tweaking shall continue... ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

Still tweaking my sub... I have seen somewhere on this forum a chart for compensation values when setting sound levels with different frequencies of test tones. (eg. lower frequencies have to be boosted as the rat-shack SPL meter doesn't register as well). I have been searching for over an hour and can't find the blessed thing. Could someone re-print this or at least submit a link to an older message that has this? Thanks. (OOPs! posted to teh wrong forum - please ignore - will repost to correct forum) ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub This message has been edited by beemer on 02-01-2002 at 06:01 PM

Interesting comments on this thread... I have a set of Kg4's which currently utilize the factory supplied riser "to better couple the speaker to the floor for maximum bass". These speakers currently sit on thick carpet with heavyweight underlay over concrete slab. Would feet be an improvement or a detriment in this particular case? I have also read in other threads that some members have used ceramic tile over carpet to anchor their speakers. Would this be effective in my case (with the risers as opposed to feet)? Comments? ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

This post is directed more to other Canadian members... I read in this forum and on others about some of the many online auctions and suppliers that handle older Klipsch designs (Ebay, Ubid, etc) and drool. Unfortunately, many, if not most of these only ship to customers in the USA and not up here to the Great White North. I have visited Ebay.ca, and although there are some deals to be had, the site is a paler version of it's US parent, carrying the few items that suppliers are willing to send north. And Ubid ships only to US addresses. Does anyone know of Canadian sites or other North American sites which might supply Klipsch lovers north of the 49th? I am lucky enough to have a local dealer, but that doesn't help if say I was interested in locating a set of Cornwalls, or an Academy center. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

This post might actually belong in the Subwoofers section, but since more of my listening is done in Home Theater, I figured what the heck. First off, I'd like to comment on how helpful and informative this forum and it's members are. I have very recently began an overhaul of my system after receiving a new receiver/amp at Christmas. In the short period of time since then, I have gleaned a lot of useful information from previous posts and from direct answers from other members. (Thanks LyleS, the info on speaker settings really helped. I did pick up that SPL meter and made some substantial improvements with proper calibration of my speakers.) That being said, I have found myself searching for more information. With the new reciever and properly calibrated speakers, I am questioning my low-end. The bass is there, but not at the levels I would like to experience - I can hear the T-Rex walking in JP but I'd like to feel him too. Don't get me wrong - I have no interest in vibrating pictures off the wall (the wife would be in speaker-spearing mode) or getting visits from the local constabulary, courtesy the neighbours. I just want to get a richer and deeper "feel" from my sound. I am running my sub via line inputs (with a high quality sub cable and y-connector) with the sub filter set to max (to allow receiver to handle bass management). My mains are set to large and all others at small. Does anyone else have experience with Yamaha subwoofers? Have I got something wrong or am I just expecting too much from my 10 year old sub. Advice would be most appreciated. Second question: Assuming my sub has reached the limit, opinions on an upgrade would be also appreciated. I have done a fair bit of research and have narrowed the field to a few candidates based on availability in my area and affordability (unfortunately my pockets aren't as deep as my tastes in audio equipment). And the nominees are... Klipsch KSW-12 (sentimental favorite for obvious reasons-but do I have to buy fuses by the gross?) Velodyne VLF-1012 (it's a velodyne and local dealer has an excellent price) Boston Acoustics PV-600 (another local dealer with excellent price - nice tight sound) Monitor ASW-110 or 210 (specs and reviews seem quite positive) Paradigm PS-1000 (good dealer) Comments and/or critique will be most appreciated. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub This message has been edited by beemer on 01-09-2002 at 08:49 PM

Seconding the motion... Where did you ever get such a sweetheart deal such as $120.00 for a KSW12? And in Canadian funds yet!!! That kind of pricing would make the drive to Kelowna worth it. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

Thanks for the Y-cable tip guys. During a reconfiguration of my home theater to accomodate a new receiver, I switched my sub from speaker level inputs to a single line input. I thought my sub had died. Tried the Y-cable to both line inputs, and viola - my sub was back, better and more powerful than ever! Now, as some have mentioned, I have to turn it down to keep proper levels. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

Thanks, Lyle for your detailed and very informantive response to my original post. Since the date of that posting, I have been scouring the archives of this board and came up with some of the information you detailed. Your response pulled a lot of loose ends together -- much appreciated. You may be interested to know that Technics now does allow a slightly lower sub crossover thn what you experienced - now 100hz rather than 120 - and adjustable upwards from there (from what I've been reading lower would be the operative direction, but, you work with what you have). Thanks also for your offer to help. The wife is working this weekend so I plan to be doing a lot of tweaking and experimentation - I'll let you know how things turn out - I may just take you up on your offer sometime. (That SPL meter you mentioned just happens to be on sale at Radio Shack this week also - I think my wife created a monster). From one stubble-jumper to another, again thanks. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

Just another newbie's take on this.. Noth wishing to start any arguements or anything, but I have had a set of kg4's as my home theater mains for years (absolutely luv 'em). I very recently (on the advice of this board and the Klipsch chart) upgraded to an SC-1 center and I think (IMHO) that it is a great match. Depending on the source, I find it can be even a bit too strong, although in most cases, it seems to be an almost perfect compliment to my 4's. The only case I have yet found where it may lack a bit was dialogue during the battle sequences in Pearl Harbour - the mains were definitely overpowering the dialogue. This says to me that a couple of factors come into play here -- 1) Different equipment driving the speakers makes a difference, and most importantly 2), the biggest determining factor will be what your own ears hear and prefer. Try to demo an SC-1 if possible and see what you think. If budget is a determining factor, the SC-1 (again IMHO) certainly makes a fine addition to your system. I have not been disappointed. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

When my 10 year old Pioneer Pro-logic receiver started having problems on one channel, my wife elected to present me with a new Technics SA-DA8 receiver/amp for Christmas (Wow! What a woman!). Not being totally familiar with the newer audio decoding systems(5.1, DTS etc.) setup proved to be a challenging experience. I have temporarily used the factory defaults in speaker setup (large everything and 100 khz hi-cut) and it sounds great. What I am wondering is if I can make a great experience even better? Given the specs on my current system, could the Klipsch experts out there give me some opinions about speaker settings (large? small?) and filter settings (besides the receiver, the Yamaha also has adjustable Hi-cut settings). Any help would be most appreciated. ------------------ System: Technics SA-DA8 Sony CDP-C435 CD Sony DVP-NS300 DVD Hitachi UX617 VHS Klipsch KG4's Fronts Klipsch KG2.2's Surrounds Klipsch SC-1 Center Yamaha YST-SW100 sub

Thanks for the information Kilowatter, it is much appreciated. That is a great speaker and at a price that I should be able to get past the wife. I'm going down to my dealer today. Now if I could only convince her that a pair of Belle Klipsches were a necessity in our lives...

Have been a Klipsch owner and devotee for years after hearing a friend's Khorns. My own budget was somewhat more restricted, but have been smitten with my KG4's since I got them. I am planning(?) an upgrade to my center channel and would like opinions on the closest acoustical match to my current home theater. Thanks Mains: KG4's Surrounds: KG2.2's Center: KG1 Sub: Yamaha YST-SW100