RoboKlipsch

Wow a 28lb speaker. You may want something even stronger. You'd have to do some searching but I'm sure they are out there.

I used: http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Clamping-Mounting-Surrounding-MS56B/dp/B000X9O8SI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457470325&sr=8-1&keywords=videosecu+speaker+mount with a pair of bookshelves. They work great. However, many reviews talk about the hardware. I DID have to go to the hardware store and get a new pair of bolts and nuts because the ones supplied were not threaded properly. So they aren't perfect out of the box in some cases which is lame. But it holds great, mine are screwed into the stud and could support the 81's no problem I believe. They don't tilt a lot, just a little so don't get them for tilt.

For peace of mind buy two of the same and sell the other maybe. I think it would work but not be perfect.

Mods please feel free to remove this thread. I am not sure if I don't know how or don't have permission at this time. R

<bump> Thanks Cal, I will remove the other thread I started. I thought it might be here but couldn't find it.

also: Using HDMI ExtendersFor distances longer than 15 meters, HDMI extenders can be used. An HDMI extender is a pair of devices that are used to convert HDMI cables to Cat 5/Cat 6 cables, allowing longer runs. They usually amplify the signal as well, ensuring that the signal level received at the far end will be sufficient. When using HDMI extenders with a Cat 5/Cat 6 cable, runs of up to 250 meters (820 feet) can be made. There are also HDMI extenders that work over optical fiber lines. With these, the source can be placed as far as 300 meters (980 feet) from the monitor. http://www.ebay.com/gds/Everything-You-Need-to-Know-About-HDMI-Cables-/10000000177630531/g.html

I think Wake has the right idea. With an HDMI cable, you are sending a digital signal that shouldn't be subject to loss or resistance. With a female connector that doesn't move routed the 40 ft to wherever it goes....you can then have a 4 6 or 8 ft (whatever needed) that moves with the drawer and can be replaced should there be an issue. So I googled too: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/system-setup-connection/25675-will-multiple-hdmi-connections-lose-quality.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ele/5473014373.html Chicago listing. I know it's been up a while with the same picture. Is claiming to have 3 including black finish also. If looking for one might be a good option with 3 to pick from. No affiliation. CL in Chicago has been a bit weird lately but this one I believe is real and has been posted for weeks if not months. RK

If you are connected to a system where you can access youtube.com, search for Dolby Insider (because their quality is higher than others). Select Amaze and Leaf and listen to see if you hear the height channels. If you hear the demos but can't tell if you hear the Atmos, I'm guessing it's the room. Make sure you are sitting in the sweet spot. Report back and someone else with qualifications can likely take you in the right direction.

You could call Klipsch and ask if they have parts and their cost. If available u have leverage with broker. Those arent that old are they?

I think there is a 2.2 standard now that u may want to future proof against. I cant recall if it is more for gaming...3d or other but that i think is the the latest standard.

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The little I've learned is that as the length of wire gets longer, a higher gauge reduces signal loss. There are nice reference charts for this and I'm sure the guy you are having help knows all that (I don't know s***, and I know it). I have never heard anybody suggest the lengths of wire need to be equal. The speed of transmission through the wire is so fast that I cannot even imagine there is much if any correction unless the lengths of wire become extremely long. You may be thinking of the distance of the speakers from the main seating position needing to be calibrated. That is different than equalizing the speaker wire length. An important consideration I think though is that even with wiring in-wall, there's always the chance you will change something or move something, especially the fronts. Someone else including your pro can talk to the idea of making sure there is a little extra wire in case something is changed.

There is another ad up where someone mocks how expensive all the posts are for Klipsch...but this does appear separate. No idea how legit.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ele/5471475071.html No affiliation just posting for anybody interested.

Having last night just read the Atmos installation guide (why?!), they actually suggested 14 ft ceilings are the perfect height for Atmos. Food for thought.

As I was skimming through the build thread this was on my mind, why LaScalas? Not because I've heard them and know anything about them, but with all the choices available, why? A deal is almost always the best reason to do something imo. But with that said, I don't want to hijack your thread but am curious what, in order, you would put in as your L C F channels if you could pick anything...either from the Klipsch lines or elsewhere. How did/do you determine that you prefer the LaScalas over using a pair of your RF7s? Just curious. I suppose changing out which goes in the theater may be easy to do anyway?

Mustang do you think the right surround could go on the right wall and design in a couple back surrounds or no?

lars take a look at their 6200. Not saying it's better, but it provides more motion options. Can still push it flat back against the wall...tilt one side out, bring the entire TV out a few inches. Very cool extra...but not always necessary.

I think the left surround could go above the door....perhaps to the left of it. I can't tell the dimensions but it looks like maybe 5 feet or so to the door? The right surround maybe between the two pictures on the wall. The back surrounds I still think should both go one on the edge of each couch on the "inside"....right side of the left couch, left side of the right couch, facing foward on stands. It's a really big soundstage a big TV definitely helps.

I'm not your pro designer or even one with any real experience, but I like looking at layouts and guessing at what might work. The atmos from what i know complicates the placement especially the ceiling...height IS critical due to use of Atmos. The first thing that strikes me with your layout is that none of the seating positions are ideal, even if you were using just a 2.1 setup. The fronts are pointing at....? what? So that's not a criticism as much as an observation. And if I'm "right" then to me it means the entire setup can be a bit of a compromise but still be way better than not trying to make it work. Using some info Chris A provided elsewhere, you COULD put the side surrounds in front of the seating positions and still get a good effect. So looking at the diagram, the points I see might be (left side) at the left back edge of the sofa...I know there is no wall there so that's the most difficult placement imo. The right surround might go above the subwoofer and just to the left of it on the diagram. Height placement would be defined by Atmos. The rear surrounds. That's why I wanted to see behind the left couch. I think you could put two bookshelf-type speakers on stands, at the inside edges where the two couches are closest. The couch on the right has to come out from the wall a foot or two for the rears. But the rears would then be narrower than the fronts and facing directly forward. That way, they could be placed at the proper height, but not fire directly at anybody on either couch. But the sweep of the surrounds should work as you'll have clear location for where those surrounds are. As suggested by someone else, a 6.1 setup could work fine but in my version of the setup, the side surrounds are not required to go behind the listeners. You'll get an amazing sweep of surround from the fronts through the sides to the closely positioned backs. And if someone sits on the floor for example (kids?) (adults ) in the perfect position it would be unbelievable. What to do about the left surround I'm not sure....but there's usually a solution. RK

About 8 years ago I mounted my Panasonic plasma, 60". These guys are heavy, right? Monoprice had the best quality one. I bought one that not only tilts but articulates -- it comes out from the wall any which way up to about 4 or 6". Buy one that is rated above your TV lb-wise or at a minimum, has your tv's weight well within the range and not at the top end. Mounts very easily, of course must go into studs. Which one you buy, and which brand, is not critical. Get a good quality one and get it up there, you'll be very happy.

Thanks for sharing. I do think the switch could make it better and look forward to hearing if it does.

One more shot showing directly behind couch shot from in front of couch. Theres a lot of potential.

Thanks ibz. Even better clarification. Any surround then avoids placement issues.