Donald1800

My C3 system includes a Ray Samuals 'The Predator' portable amp, so the noted "problem" is inherent in the C3, not the quality of the amp used. You will never get a response from Klipsch that any of their products requires 'equalization' - they are always perfect, and the "problem" lies elsewhere. Donald1800

I agree with "the Thump's" recommendation. I personally own the Ray Samual's "The Predator" amp and an Asus Dolby 'headphone' encoder/audio processor with my C3s, and I have never used a quieter, cleaner amp for headphones. Donald1800

While playing with my headphone amp. equalizer compared to my Spectrum Analyser adjusted speaker system, I discovered that the problem you mentioned is caused by a C3 audio output with a slight bell curve emphasizing the mid range. Try cutting the mid range gently 3-6db from 500hz to 5khz centered around 1khz, and I think you will like the balance much better. Donald1800

I don't think that the impedance is causing any effects. 32 ohms is considered a medium impedance, I believe. The effects you describe most likely are caused by the inherent device sensitivity and accoustic frequency curve. Donald1800

I believe that the C3 impedance is 32 ohms. Donald1800

I too wear glasses while using the Custom 3s and haven't discovered any problems or discomfort. What specifically is the problem? Donald1800

Now that I've lived with the new Custom 3 eadphones for several days, ripped many CDs and post processed with 'Dolby ProLogic II' and 'Dolby Headphone', and learned how to use the Xonar U1 external USB Audio 'Card', I can now honestly say that after using the Xonar U1 Equalizer to remove the "Muddyness" and resonances, these headphones ae putting out sound of a quality I have not heard before from ANY headphone, and MOST speaker systems. Trully outstanding audio quality. Here is what I did to get this performance. If you have this card or have access to an equalizer with your sound card, try duplicating these settings and see what you get - I can switch between the Default 'Flat' and UserDef curve I labled 'HP Correction'. The difference is nght to day. I clicked the 'EFFECTS' button on the bottom, clicked on the 'MORE OPT' button on the left, selected 'Padded Cell' from the drop-down menu, set the equalizer to the following settings: 30hz +4db, 60hz -4db, 120hz to 1Khz -8db, 2Khz -4db, 4Khz 0db, 8Khz +4db, 16Khz +8db. I've tried these settings with many kinds and styles of music, and I haven't found any adjustments from these settings that produces better quality. Give it a try and let us know your results and/or preferences. Love these 'phones. I guess that even headphones can benifit from an equalizer. Donald1800

I got them yesterday. Spent the appropriate period of time to get the seal and confort right, then proceded to test them out. The mid range was clear and smooth - nice. The bass was a little subdued and 'muddy' compared to my Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 with stacked subs. They lacked the tightness and impact in the low frequencies. I had to boost the 30hz and 16khz bands +6db and the 60hz and 8khz bands +3db to approximate my current system. I do recommend these headphones while listening to 'Dolby Headphone' post processed music for the best sound. Before people jump all over me about a "poor fit", let me say that I started out with the smallest gels which were too small - no seal, no bass. The mediums sealed and delivered the bass as described, as well as the largest double flange model. I had trully subdued ambient background noise (plugged ears) and no ear discomfort. The next size was uncomfortable to insert, let alone wear for an extended period. Donald

I got them today. Spent the appropriate period of time to get the seal and confort right, then proceded to test them out. The mid range was clear and smooth - nice. The bass was a little subdued and 'muddy' compared to my Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 with stacked subs. They lacked the tightness and impact in the low frequenceis. Before people jump all over me about a "poor fit", let me say that I started out with the smallest gels which were too small - no seal, no bass. The mediums sealed and delivered the bass as described, as well as the largest double flange model. I had trully subdued ambient background noise (plugged ears) and no ear discomfort. The next size was uncomfortable to insert, let alone wear for an extended period. Donald

Oh Oh! Where is my FedEx tracking number? Hasn't my order shipped yet?

The Xonar U1 does all of the post processing from stereo to simulated DD5.1/Headphone from my ripped CDs, replacing the original stereo file with the converted simulated DD5.1/Headphone file. It also converts REAL DD5.1 from DVD movies to simulated DD5.1 'Headphone' output. My computer is a Sony Micro-Computer VGN-UX490N/C with an external 19" LCD monitor, external 100GB hard drive and multi-format CD/DVD reader/writer through a port extender. When I travel I remove the computer from the port and plug in the Predator Amp to play my ripped music in simulated surround sound through the Klipsch Custom 3s. It is a rather expensive MP3 player, but superior in sound quality and versatility doubling as my home computer. It also does triple duty as a superior GPS unit with DeLorme Topo maps with 3D display of the map contours while backpacking with my solar charger/Li-Ion battery system that keeps all of my electronics up and running.

I got my order in at 5PM west coast time. I was scared to death as I had been stuck on my computer since this morning trying to install a new version of SpyBot during the time my computer was still setting up from a shut down from the prior night, and McAfee was down loading their updates - everything got messed up and it wasn't untill 4:45PM that I had everything up and running again. The first thing I checked was my e-mail, and seeing the announcement and that it was nearly 5 oclock, I was expecting to see that they were all gone. But, my order went through without a hickup. I do hope that my order is truely confirmed with a notice of shipment tomorrow. I have been checking my e-mail, the Custom 3 site page and this forum many times a day for WEEKS hoping to see that they were finally available. And of all the days I monitored for availability, it had to be this day of computer problems to have it pop up. But fortunately I got them (I hope). I can't wait to try them with my new DD5.1 external sound card (ASUS Xonar U1 USB Audio Station). With it and my new EMMELINE 'Predator" Headphone Amp, I ripped my favorite stereo CDs, then converted them with ProLogic II and 'Headphone' post processing in anticipation of getting these new Custom 3 headphones. I like what I hear with my old Sony earbuds, but expect outstanding sound with the new Custom 3s.

Thank you for the clarification. Your "allotment" is seperate from the bulk sent out for distribution. "[Donald1800"]These retail distribution orders keep comming in AHEAD of our ability to get in line through 'Kipsch.com' "I'm uncertain why you have come to that conclusion, when in reality no Custom-3s have been shipped to anyone (or any dealer) yet?" The key word in my statement was "orders", not sales or delivery. Every business has to prioritize and allot backordered product based upon some criteria - usually based upon ORDER receipt DATE, order quantity and sometimes perceived importance/performance ranking of the business. Again, my concern was that these retail distribution orders are not STOPPED as are ours. Therefore, these growing backorders will, if nothing else, affect YOUR allotment for online sales. I know that you have no control over this proccess of allotment. I just wanted to know how the policy of not allowing a preorder list will affect the availability for online sales. I can now see that the affect is severe.

You are dancing very agilly around my question, but "This delay is not the focus of my concern. My concern ONLY is about how fulfillment will be prioritized. " To put it as plainly as possible, WHERE does a 'Klipsch.com' online order from a single customer fall within the high volume of retail distrubution oders comming in every day.? These retail distribution orders keep comming in AHEAD of our ability to get in line through 'Kipsch.com'. WHEN we do get in line, WHERE does our order sit? PLEASE answer this question directly - no more dancng around it. "Enquiring Minds" and concerned customers want to know! If you don't know, find out.

I understood about the production difficulties surrounding the Custom 3s. This delay is not the focus of my concern. My concern ONLY is about how fulfillment will be prioritized. That is why I'm just a little confused with your reply. I have been monitoring both the Custom 3 product/order page, this forum AND my e-mail, and I NEVER saw an opportunity to place my order for the Custom 3s. Yet both some posters here and your reply indicate that SOME people did manage to get on some preorder list. How did THEY do it, and how can I? I would sure feel better if I knew where I stood (order number) in the fulfillment line. Right now I have absolutely no idea not only WHEN I will be able to order, but WHERE my order would be in the line and IF my order would have any priority over retail distribution orders. There has been no policy statement about this. And unfortunately your reply does not clarify the policy regarding my concern.