Maximus89

That was me. Got it down to $300 plus $43.05 shipping. Originally was going to be $399 + $80+ shipping Worth the risk. I figure i could never get that cabinet with the cut outs and walnut veneer and riser and magnetic grill with badge and tweeter horn and mumps horn built for me for $343.05 anywhere even if it has some scratches or dings from being used. Throw in a passive radiator. Pretty good. I also figure what are the odds of all the drivers not working at the same time? Could something electrical have damaged the crossover AND the woofer voice coil and compression drivers? Or would it just be a crossover issue? Either way, i'm just crossing my fingers that at minimum the woofer works just fine. I don't mind having to buy replacement parts over time little by little. I just know the woofer is likely to be most expensive. Having spoken to a customer service rep that was emailing with the used department manager, there are no photos. They don't take Klipsch photos because they're too big to unpackage and repackage. That had me skeptical. You think they'd take photos when the customer returned it to them and they inspected it. But, i saw plenty of reviews on their website that they are honest about the way they describe used/clearance products. They described as selling this speaker as X quality "for parts only" because of missing terminal jumpers for non bi amp(who cares about that really?-just use normal speaker wire to bridge) and the speaker producing no sound. The cosmetic condition is good, but used with some scratches, scuffs etc. So normal wear of being used. I don't mind that at all and i can repair scratches. If there were tears in the 12" driver or passive, they would have noted it. What peaked my interest was they basically all but told me that no internal inspections are done. No drivers were removed to test etc. So it could be something as small as a customer opening up the passive radiator and reaching in and disconnecting all the wires to return for full refund as "non working." Or it could just be all parts really are shot. I like the gamble with them only inspecting physical damage cosmetically on the outside. The sale is final. No returns, but since they described the cosmetic condition as good with scratches, scuffs, dings etc.- if it arrives shipped cosmetically severely damaged, they said i can return it. Either way, i'm hoping i got some luck left over after i got my Klipschorns for a great deal a few months back. If this works out, i haven't decided if i will make room to use this as a center channel between my Chorus II(which use all Ti diaphragms) , with the option to save up to buy another single to make a pair, or just sell it for profit to help fund more Klipschorn upgrades, or tube amp. So hopefully that doesn't rub anyone the wrong way, considering this whole risk is all on me. In the end if i'm stuck with a pretty piece of furniture while i save up for replacement parts or decide to play Frankenstein and get aftermarket parts, i won't be too bummed over the deal. Only way i get upset is if the cabinet and veneer is completely wrecked either during shipping or misled by adorama listing it as cosmetically in good condition. Wish me luck! Supposed to arrive next Monday.

Yeah my la scala industrial splits had those rubber pads st the bottom of the top as well. Was thinking about that. Not sure what you mean by sticking two cork pads together to prevent damage? Like from the cork scratching the bass bin? Mine doesn’t have veneer on the top of the bass bin so no need to worry about that if that’s what you meant Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ll have to try later maybe this weekend but that should be the problem though. Any idea about using furniture pads either way? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sure looks like that could be the case. There’s a small gap on the top plate and when I move it, it gets lopsided. Strange how I didn’t notice it until now since these are fairly new to me and I just got them hooked up month and a half ago or so Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ve got rattling with heavy bass on my left khorn top. These are decorators with the top sitting directly on the bass bin. No collar or anything. Was wondering if furniture pads will take care of the rattling but will it have negative effect with the bass since the bottom plate of the top acts as the top of the bass bin? Will the smal air gap be an issue? thanks

Isn’t the CF series perfect for just laying it over horizontal? I know it’d be ideal to have the horn horizontal but I doubt you’d lose much Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ah man. If that was near me I’d buy it right away to use as center for my Chorus II and sell my KLF-C7 to make a nice turnaround. I have KLF-10s that I wanted to covert both into centers but I just don’t have the skills or know anyone that does. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Is it the Ti mids? Haven’t heard these complaints with HIII and CWIII’s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Too bright? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wow starting to see more and more FIII’s pop up. I wonder why so soon? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks. I didn’t use anything special on the horns. I think it was rustoleum canyon black-flat. With speakers up there in age the black horns and motor boards tend to get faded and end up looking dull. The original grill cloth as well. Maybe that’s just how they were. It wasn’t nearly black enough Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What do you mean by 4 bronze clamps? They’re all black now but I still want to try out a bronze paint on all the magnets. I think that’d look neat! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There’s a pair in Austin tx Craigslist. Just spent some time with my Chorus II today. Still and will always love them! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Do let us know your thoughts. I'm considering the A55G myself.

Absolutely. He's got a beautiful home. Here's a full shot so you can see the rear. Open wall to the large kitchen so that rear center above the listening position really helps with nearfield and it sounds lovely. So smooth. Don't remember those speakers against the fireplace but he was selling them that day. I had bugged him about trying to pry away his Klipschorns from him because i had once brought LSi splits over there with the stock AL network and we compared to his LS with Dean's networks and i was blown away at the difference and then i heard his DeanG'd Klipschorns and it just wasn't fair. Now i have my own DeanG'd Klipschorns and i'm going over there soon to hear his R-C-L Jubilee set up and i'll probably start dreaming of the Jubes when i walk out of there as he says they completely blow away the Klipschorns.

That’s actually Born2RockU’s place and living room movie set up with another pair of RF-7 III’s as surrounds and the matching center as a rear 6th surround mounted directly above his listening position. Only thing that are mine are the Chorus II that I took over there for a fun shoot out

BTW a quick note on the FIII. People seem to be very sensitive to Titanium in mids and i've read some harshness/brightness comments with the Forte III and the loved or hated Ti diaphragms from the CWIII and HIII, but from my own experience, i believe the Titanium diaphragms need sufficient time to break in. It was a night and day experience from the first time i heard them in my Chorus II(without the bandpass) to one day they just suddenly became so...SOFT. I mean, it was quiet to me after putting up with them sounding so loud and bright the first time i installed them. They were almost unbearable at first and then maybe 3 weeks later or longer, they just got so much more quiet than i had been used to up to that point. It was a shock of a difference. I had some tell me that i just got used to the sound. I couldn't believe i was supposed to just dismiss this huge difference seemingly out of nowhere. So i did an A/B test with the stock phenolic and the Ti at that point and it was very hard for me to hear the differences. Yes the Ti are more detailed, which can be good and bad in a clinical way compared to the phenolic but just very hard to hear differences(this was with no bandpass). At times, i heard harshness from the phenolic rather than the Ti. This wasn't about getting used to the sound now that i was A/B'ing. I was being told "break in" is BS and any kind of break in happens almost immediately and i gotta say. After that experience, i'm totally with the crowd that says they need a lot of time to break in. Especially those Ti diaphragms. So Forte III owners, let them play loud and hard for a while before you do any critical listening IMO. And if you're wondering, i've had my Ti diaphragms removed and up for sale just to help fund with KHorn mods now that the Chorus II are moved to movie duty. The Ti's just have such a bad rep by now that not a single person has been interested and i think tomorrow when i get a chance i'm going to put them back in the Chorus II so i can get some time with those bad boys and give them some love.

The RF-7 III has beautiful and smooth highs. Absolutely an improvement on the RF-7 II's which were too fatiguing and harsh to my ears. I've had a shoot out with my Chorus II(Ti tweeters-stock networks) vs Craig's RF-7 III's. I prefer the musicality of the 3 way Chorus II, though it was very close for the environment we were in and the CHII placement. It was a large open living room and the Chorus II were on top of rsw-15's. In a more intimate listening room, things like 4x 10's vs 2 15's and a 2 way or 3 way start to really matter. To me personally, there's something about the way a 15" woofer sounds that i absolutely love(consider saving for CWIII's?) but the RF-7 series has a slam factor much like the larger KLF series that i can totally understand people would love. In the shootout, for me, the RF-7IIIs only win was in its incredibly detailed and sweet highs. Not even factoring in the CHII are due for a recap or new crossover build and they were placed high off the floor. While i haven't heard the FIII and it's a single 12" woofer which is pretty different from a 15" in a Chorus II(which also has a larger mid horn), i still can't imagine that new mid horn being "only slightly" better than the RF-7 III 2 way. People have different tastes. Some have a more critical ear for mid range frequencies and others love crisp and clean highs and others are bass heads and then probably most just want balance which is the hardest to achieve in a full range speaker with size limitations. It's awesome yet also unfortunate we've only got Youthman to do a shootout between the FIII and the RF7III because he's just one guy with his own personal tastes(No offense Youthman). Youthman has stated he prefers the more modern look of the RF series vs vintage speaker look IIRC, so that's taken into account and if i'm not mistaken, he loved the RF-7 II's more in your face sound that many find harsh and fatiguing. That already goes against many people's tastes so just beware if you are on the fence of purchasing one or the other to lean on your own experiences. Have you heard 2 way Klipsch? Have you heard 3 way Klipsch? Have you heard dual 10's of a KLF-20 vs a Forte II for example? Can you listen to an RF-7 II locally? If you can, imagine it with smoother highs and none of the fatigue. Can you listen to a Forte II locally? If you can. Imagine it with a slightly smaller mid horn with new patented mumps and more detailed titanium diaphragms that were voiced to where they seem to be universally raved about. Is it going to be primarily 2ch or home theater or both? Which will be more important to you? If it's home theater, the RF-7 III has a matching center channel and there's surrounds for example whereas the Forte III has no matching home theater speakers as of now. Do aesthetics/decor come into play with personal tastes and WAF? Etc, etc. In the end, i think it's a very safe bet that you can't go wrong with either one.

That veneer is freaking gorgeous. Is that the Australian walnut from the anniversary LSII? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So the doghouse and top hat have separate connectors like the old industrial splits? I like that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

When i had my LSi split tops toed in directly at me they were way too fatiguing, though that might have a lot to do with the original AL network(k55m+k77m) and small room size. I currently have Klipschorns(round alinco k77 +k55v) facing directly at me with plenty of absorption behind me and it's perfectly sweet with 74 AA's(Dean AA's with the mids dialed back incoming on Tuesday) but they're much further apart than i had the LSi's so that could also be a factor. Got the itch for La Scalas again. There's a black pair near me. Maybe i should offer my Chorus II + cash for trade, but i don't know if i could ever part with the Chorus II

Is toe in position ideal for la scalas? Or perhaps that with seating room makes it necessary? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I really liked the black border of the LSII top hat but for the price, a little more veneer would be expected and probably wanted more than just a black border. Hopefully we get full frontal shot soon. I think I also prefer the fabric of the 70th anniversary that has horizontal gold weaved with silver vertical. That had a little more “pop” than all silver. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes. The sentence continued makes it clear it's 1 note just about the tweeter "The new La Scala AL5 features a new 1” tweeter and Tractrix horn to extend output of high frequencies beyond 20kHz" I agree that they shouldn't feel any pressure to keep them the same way after so long. Offering a true heritage + update or 2 way would be very cool. But, I only have enough money to play around in the used market anyway so it doesn't bother me.

Probably same exact tractrix tweeter the new Ak6 KHorns are getting I wonder if they'll eventually become available for KHorn and La Scala owners, but what modifications will the networks need? Maybe just different value caps?